Ice sheet melt caused by heat from Earth core - not just global warming': NEW REPORT CLAIMS

List members , to those in this group who are more scientifically inclined , please do read this entire article and then you can have a good hearty laugh !! :)) It exposes the utter foolishness of mainstream climate science , that has always attributed the melting of ice sheets to global warming via the atmosphere .

They now have egg all over their faces to admit that the base of the Greenland glacier is upto 10 degrees centigrade warmer than the surface , in some areas of the Greenland ice sheet .
You see , heat from a planet's core can reach it's surface via two routes : geothermal vents or even direct openings into the planet's hollow interior . There is also a secondary manner in which a planet's core can affect it's climate at the surface - via the planet's electromagnetic field that emanates from the planetary core !

'Ice sheet melt caused by heat from Earth core not just global warming': NEW REPORT CLAIMS

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By Jon Austin PUBLISHED: 17:24, Thu, Aug 4, 2016 | UPDATED: 12:27, Thu, Oct 27, 2016
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ADVERTISINGinRead invented by TeadsADVERTISINGinRead invented by TeadsHeat from the earth's core is melting the base of the Greenland ice sheet.
On the 15 October 2016 this article was amended. The headline originally stated 'CLIMATE CHANGE SHOCK: Ice sheet melt caused by heat from Earth's core NOT global warming' and the first paragraph stated 'The MASSIVE Greenland ice sheet is being melted as a result of heat emitted from the Earth, rather than rising atmospheric temperatures, a new NASA study has claimed'. In fact whilst the report has explored the role that archaic heat from the Earth's core plays on the melting of the Greenland ice sheet the report does not claim to rule out the effects of a warming climate upon the ice sheet.

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THE MASSIVE Greenland ice sheet is being melted as a result of heat emitted from within the Earth, rather than solely rising atmospheric temperatures, a new NASA study has claimed.

The US space agency, which uses satellites orbiting the earth to monitor the environment and study climate change, looked at how much the the huge ice sheet was still attached to bed rock underneath.

For the first time, the agency obtained a series of temperatures from the base of the sheet - the second biggest in the world after that in the Antarctic - and found it was up to tens of degrees warmer at the base than the surface.

The Greenland ice sheet is around 1,500 miles north to south and up to 680 miles across.

Scientists found alarmingly high areas of ice at the base of the sheet had melted and come free from the bedrock below.

But they also said it was heat coming out of the bedrock itself which was causing the melting.

This means the ice sheet would melt from below anyway even if global warming was not taking place.

A NASA spokesman said: "Greenland’s thick ice sheet insulates the bedrock below from the cold temperatures at the surface, so the bottom of the ice is often tens of degrees warmer than at the top, because the ice bottom is slowly warmed by heat coming from the Earth’s depths.
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"Knowing whether Greenland’s ice lies on wet, slippery ground or is anchored to dry, frozen bedrock is essential for predicting how this ice will flow in the future, but scientists have very few direct observations of the thermal conditions beneath the ice sheet, obtained through fewer than two dozen boreholes that have reached the bottom.

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The map shows parts of the ice sheet that are likely thawed (red), frozen (blue) or uncertain (grey)
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"Now, a new study synthesises several methods to infer the Greenland Ice Sheet’s basal thermal state – whether the bottom of the ice is melted or not – leading to the first map that identifies frozen and thawed areas across the whole ice sheet."

But the news does not mean NASA has ruled out the fear of the effects of a warming climate, as this would likely speed up the overall melting.

It will use the new map to better predict how the ice sheet will react to a warming climate.

Joe MacGregor, lead author of the study and a glaciologist at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, said: "We’re ultimately interested in understanding how the ice sheet flows and how it will behave in the future.

“If the ice at its bottom is at the melting point temperature, or thawed, then there could be enough liquid water there for the ice to flow faster and affect how quickly it responds to climate change.”

For the study, published in the Journal of Geophysical Research – Earth Surface, Mr MacGregor’s team combined four different approaches to investigate the basal thermal state.

First, they examined results from eight recent computer models of the ice sheet, which predict bottom temperatures.

Secondly, they studied the layers that compose the ice sheet itself, which are detected by radars onboard NASA’s Operation IceBridge aircraft and suggest where the bottom of the ice is melting rapidly.

CLARIFICATION

On the 15 October 2016 this article was amended. The headline originally stated 'CLIMATE CHANGE SHOCK: Ice sheet melt caused by heat from Earth's core NOT global warming' and the first paragraph stated 'The MASSIVE Greenland ice sheet is being melted as a result of heat emitted from the Earth, rather than rising atmospheric temperatures, a new NASA study has claimed'. In fact whilst the report has explored the role that archaic heat from the Earth's core plays on the melting of the Greenland ice sheet the report does not claim to rule out the effects of a warming climate upon the ice sheet.

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Thirdly, they looked at where the ice surface speed measured by satellites exceeds its “speed limit”, the maximum velocity at which the ice could flow and still be frozen to the rock beneath it.

Finally, they studied imagery from the Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometers on the NASA Terra and Aqua satellites looking for rugged surface terrain that is usually indicative of ice sliding over a thawed bed.

Mr MacGregor said: "Each of these methods has strengths and weaknesses. Considering just one isn’t enough. By combining them, we produced the first large-scale assessment of Greenland’s basal thermal state."

For each method, the team looked for areas where the technique confidently inferred that the bed of Greenland’s ice sheet was thawed or frozen.

They then looked at the places where these methods agreed and classified these areas as likely thawed or likely frozen.

The zones where there was insufficient data or the methods disagreed, they classified as uncertain.

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From this synthesis, Mr MacGregor and his colleagues determined the bed is likely thawed under Greenland’s southwestern and northeastern ice drainages, while it’s frozen in the interior and west of the ice sheet’s central ice divide.

For a third of the Greenland ice sheet, there’s not enough data available to determine its basal thermal state.

Mr MacGregor said the team’s map is just one step in fully assessing the thermal state of the bottom of Greenland’s ice sheet.

He said: "I call this the piñata, because it’s a first assessment that is bound to get beat up by other groups as techniques improve or new data are introduced.

"But that still makes our effort essential, because prior to our study, we had little to pick on."

Climate change campaigners remain concerned and insist summer melting of the ice sheet is increasing year on year.

In July 2012 a large ice sheet twice the size of Manhattan (46 square miles) broke free from the Petermann glacier in northern Greenland.

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Original subject: The earth's magnetic field impacts climate: Danish study

Folks , this brilliant research article should serve as an eye-opener for those who are blinded by the propaganda on "Man made global warming" .
This is also a timely wake up call for everyone to realise how bad science can mislead humanity to tackle a non-issue and ignore the real challenges we will face (an oncoming mini ice age in the not so distant future) !!
We must all realise that a planet's electromagnetic field that emanates from the planetary core has far reaching effects (even on living creatures) , including on the climate at it's outer surface , this is even more so when fluctuations in the planet's electromagnetic field are happening or a magnetic pole reversal is taking place . Even changes in the Solar wind from the Sun can affect the climate . All such electromagnetic factors impacting climate have almost completely been ignored by mainstream climatologists , to mankind's peril - this has become our society's blind spot !

The earth's magnetic field impacts climate: Danish study

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COPENHAGEN (AFP) -- The earth's climate has been significantly affected by the planet's magnetic field, according to a Danish study published Monday that could challenge the notion that human emissions are responsible for global warming.

"Our results show a strong correlation between the strength of the earth's magnetic field and the amount of precipitation in the tropics," one of the two Danish geophysicists behind the study, Mads Faurschou Knudsen of the geology department at Aarhus University in western Denmark, told the Videnskab journal.

He and his colleague Peter Riisager, of the Geological Survey of Denmark and Greenland (GEUS), compared a reconstruction of the prehistoric magnetic field 5,000 years ago based on data drawn from stalagmites and stalactites found in China and Oman.

The results of the study, which has also been published in US scientific journal Geology, lend support to a controversial theory published a decade ago by Danish astrophysicist Henrik Svensmark, who claimed the climate was highly influenced by galactic cosmic ray (GCR) particles penetrating the earth's atmosphere.

Svensmark's theory, which pitted him against today's mainstream theorists who claim carbon dioxide (CO2) is responsible for global warming, involved a link between the earth's magnetic field and climate, since that field helps regulate the number of GCR particles that reach the earth's atmosphere.

"The only way we can explain the (geomagnetic-climate) connection is through the exact same physical mechanisms that were present in Henrik Svensmark's theory," Knudsen said.

"If changes in the magnetic field, which occur independently of the earth's climate, can be linked to changes in precipitation, then it can only be explained through the magnetic field's blocking of the cosmetic rays," he said.

| Galactic Cosmic Rays

Galactic cosmic rays (GCRs) come from outside the solar system but generally from within our Milky Way galaxy. GCRs are atomic nuclei from which all of the surrounding electrons have been stripped away during their high-speed passage through the galaxy. They have probably been accelerated within the last few million years, and have traveled many times across the galaxy, trapped by the galactic magnetic field. GCRs have been accelerated to nearly the speed of light, probably by supernova remnants. As they travel through the very thin gas of interstellar space, some of the GCRs interact and emit gamma rays, which is how we know that they pass through the Milky Way and other galaxies.

The elemental makeup of GCRs has been studied in detail , and is very similar to the composition of the Earth and solar system. but studies of the composition of the isotopes in GCRs may indicate the that the seed population for GCRs is neither the interstellar gas nor the shards of giant stars that went supernova. This is an area of current study.

Included in the cosmic rays are a number of radioactive nuclei whose numbers decrease over time. As in the carbon-14 dating technique, measurements of these nuclei can be used to determine how long it has been since cosmic ray material was synthesized in the galactic magnetic field before leaking out into the vast void between the galaxies. These nuclei are called "cosmic ray clocks".
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The two scientists acknowledged that CO2 plays an important role in the changing climate, "but the climate is an incredibly complex system, and it is unlikely we have a full overview over which factors play a part and how important each is in a given circumstance," Riisager told Videnskab.

Svensmark's Theory Explained

Man-made climate change may be happening at a far slower rate than has been claimed, according to controversial new research.

Scientists say that cosmic rays from outer space play a far greater role in changing the Earth's climate than global warming experts previously thought.

In a book, to be published this week, they claim that fluctuations in the number of cosmic rays hitting the atmosphere directly alter the amount of cloud covering the planet.

High levels of cloud cover blankets the Earth and reflects radiated heat from the Sun back out into space, causing the planet to cool.

Henrik Svensmark, a weather scientist at the Danish National Space Centre who led the team behind the research, believes that the planet is experiencing a natural period of low cloud cover due to fewer cosmic rays entering the atmosphere.

This, he says, is responsible for much of the global warming we are experiencing.

He claims carbon dioxide emissions due to human activity are having a smaller impact on climate change than scientists think. If he is correct, it could mean that mankind has more time to reduce our effect on the climate.

The controversial theory comes one week after 2,500 scientists who make up the United Nations International Panel on Climate Change published their fourth report stating that human carbon dioxide emissions would cause temperature rises of up to 4.5 C by the end of the century.

Mr Svensmark claims that the calculations used to make this prediction largely overlooked the effect of cosmic rays on cloud cover and the temperature rise due to human activity may be much smaller.

He said: "It was long thought that clouds were caused by climate change, but now we see that climate change is driven by clouds.

"This has not been taken into account in the models used to work out the effect carbon dioxide has had.

"We may see CO2 is responsible for much less warming than we thought and if this is the case the predictions of warming due to human activity will need to be adjusted."

Mr Svensmark last week published the first experimental evidence from five years' research on the influence that cosmic rays have on cloud production in the Proceedings of the Royal Society Journal A: Mathematical, Physical and Engineering Sciences. This week he will also publish a fuller account of his work in a book entitled The Chilling Stars: A New Theory of Climate Change.

A team of more than 60 scientists from around the world are preparing to conduct a large-scale experiment using a particle accelerator in Geneva, Switzerland, to replicate the effect of cosmic rays hitting the atmosphere.

They hope this will prove whether this deep space radiation is responsible for changing cloud cover. If so, it could force climate scientists to re-evaluate their ideas about how global warming occurs.

Mr Svensmark's results show that the rays produce electrically charged particles when they hit the atmosphere. He said: "These particles attract water molecules from the air and cause them to clump together until they condense into clouds."

Mr Svensmark claims that the number of cosmic rays hitting the Earth changes with the magnetic activity around the Sun. During high periods of activity, fewer cosmic rays hit the Earth and so there are less clouds formed, resulting in warming.

Low activity causes more clouds and cools the Earth.

According to Svensmark:

"Evidence from ice cores show this happening long into the past. We have the highest solar activity we have had in at least 1,000 years.

"Humans are having an effect on climate change, but by not including the cosmic ray effect in models it means the results are inaccurate.The size of man's impact may be much smaller and so the man-made change is happening slower than predicted."

Some climate change experts have dismissed the claims as "tenuous".

Giles Harrison, a cloud specialist at Reading University said that he had carried out research on cosmic rays and their effect on clouds, but believed the impact on climate is much smaller than Mr Svensmark claims.

Mr Harrison said: "I have been looking at cloud data going back 50 years over the UK and found there was a small relationship with cosmic rays. It looks like it creates some additional variability in a natural climate system but this is small."

But there is a growing number of scientists who believe that the effect may be genuine.

Among them is Prof Bob Bingham, a clouds expert from the Central Laboratory of the Research Councils in Rutherford.

He said: "It is a relatively new idea, but there is some evidence there for this effect on clouds."

Comments?

COMMENTS:

The destruction that is caused by a handful of power hungry tyranical news media tycoons spurred on by a highly politicized academia in their deranged pursuit to brainwash the world's population is astronomically greater than any perceptible "climate change" attributable to man's activities, no matter how great or small.

I am an inquisitive critical thinker by nature and wish to remain so despite the ironically closed minded (university / a place for higher learning) professors that now regrettably sadly dominate academia particularly in America.

It is become obvious that the majority of our colleges and university professors have adopted a doctrine designed to supplant sound reasoning with an irrefutable dogma like mandate that elicits scorn and derision for anyone that dare question their inherently flawed decree regarding man's alleged culbablity in climate change.

I began to reason on my own that it seems the cause of the swirling of hurricanes is the major contributor for the power of such storms. Then I asked what is that cause and I see that it is earth's magnetic fields. Then I see that it is such a determining factor by virtue of the evidential fact that hurricanes swirl in opposite directions whether north or south of the equator. The fact that none exists at the equator and furthermore one cannot cross the equator is further proof that earth's magnetic force fields are the primary driving force of any major storm and most notably hurricanes.

It is due the egregious offensive onslaught of Hollywood, big media/ABC/NBC/CBS, and moronic popular academia that I found myself researching the subject of man's abilities to affect the world's climate and cosequently found your scholarly report for which I thank you.

The fact that your research does not get the same publicity as the lopsided unfounded absurd propaganda asserting that man is the root cause of any climate change is disturbing to say the least. But please keep publishing your research findings in hopes of bring sanity back to meterological science...before studies and reports like yours are banned from social media...

Douglas Brown

This seems like a far more logical and plausible explination for the rapid and extreme climate changes that we have been witnessing in recent years, than the contribution of man made CO2, which if I am correct, is actually at a much lower level that it has been at times in the past.

Marjorie S

Sidhartha,

From what I understand, The Sun is going through a cooling phase. So I wouldn't expect that the Earth's core would be accumulating more energy and heat, but rather less.

Even David LaPoint's model has to be fed from The Sun.

Dean

List members , in the light of the mail yesterday from @Soretna , I once again thought of this possibility...if there are smaller openings into Hollow Earth , beneath the Greenland ice sheet , then this additional heat source for melting the Greenland ice , seems quite logical...hmm !

Regards

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