[HollowEarthMystical] New Martian Polar Anomaly?

Mike,

As much as I'd love to see geysers on Mars, I think this is an optical
illusion. Those are long shadows cast by drifts of sand dunes. The angle of
the shadow make them look vertical but they are actually horizontal. The sun
must be low on the horizon in this photo. Anyone agree?

It does stir up some other thoughts, though. If they are sand dunes (maybe
snow drifts?), then that does suggest high winds or water or both.

Blake

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-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Mott [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 8:31 AM
To: [email protected]; [email protected]
Subject: [HollowEarthMystical] New Martian Polar Anomaly?

New evidence of anomalies in the Martian Polar Region?

New photos reveal thousands of spouting geysers, with liquid/vapor trails,
at the South Pole of Mars.

Photos:

http://www.msss.com/moc_gallery/m07_m12/nonmaps/M08/M0803500.gif

http://www.geocities.com/zfitzzz/

Article:

http://www.rense.com/general6/cm.htm

This would indicate that a huge amount of periodic (or constant?) pressure,
as well as huge volumes of liquid (probably water) are present near the
pole.

--Mike

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List Members,

Mike Malony recently brought to my attention the fact that the Rosocrusians,
as a group, have some awareness of the hollow Earth theory. Does anybody
know much about them or have any contact? I think that it would be
interesting to make some contact and see what their basis is.

Dharma/Dean

My curiosity about them in the long past resulted in spooky consequences. They
psychically followed me for a long time. Fortunately, I was too young and
ignorant then to be of any interest to them...unless that's why certain things
have happened certain ways...I'll give it some reflection...Be careful.
They say they are just "researching laws of nature" but it appears to me that
they are unscrupulous and honor no values of right and wrong.
Nimueh

Dean wrote:

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List Members,

Mike Malony recently brought to my attention the fact that the Rosocrusians,
as a group, have some awareness of the hollow Earth theory. Does anybody
know much about them or have any contact? I think that it would be
interesting to make some contact and see what their basis is.

Dharma/Dean

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Nimueh Rephael wrote:

My curiosity about them in the long past resulted in spooky consequences. They
psychically followed me for a long time. Fortunately, I was too young and
ignorant then to be of any interest to them...unless that's why certain things
have happened certain ways...I'll give it some reflection...Be careful.
They say they are just "researching laws of nature" but it appears to me that
they are unscrupulous and honor no values of right and wrong.
Nimueh

Huh?.... I don't mean that in a demeaning sense, btw. :slight_smile:

If I can draw an analogy here, it would be to replace the word 'Rosacrucians'
with the word 'Christian'. I know too many people than I care to list that
would use words like "they are unscrupulous and honor no values of right and wrong"
when they are talking about "christians".

large organizations, it will be difficult due to the fact that the larger
the organization, the greater the individual discent.

However, if you can prove to me and everyone else that the 'Rosacrucians'
are only a few (and define a few) then this might possibly be a better arguement?
I could be wrong here.

I just know I've read some books that have never put 'Rosacrucians' in
a bad light. I would be glad to hear about and would be open-minded about
other books or experiences that are counter to my experiences. By no mean
have I read many books on 'Rosacrucians' so possibly you know much more than I.

Thanks!

Jeff

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From my experience (probably not massive but..), any time you try to stereotype

I found an application to their organization when I was in college--1969, I think. I
wanted to become spiritual so I applied. I felt them watching me for a long time. I was
a dumb kid trying my best in those days to figure it all out. I wasn't bad, or
especially good, I was searching.

The app. asked one to state one's intent in joining the organization. In a flash of
over-doing-ness, I stated, "I seek the Knowledge and the Power to do Good for Mankind".
(Just your average college student, right?)

After feeling their attention on me for weeks, I received an answer--"Your purpose will
not be served by our organization."

FYI.
Nimueh

Jeff Frohwein wrote:

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Nimueh Rephael wrote:
>
> My curiosity about them in the long past resulted in spooky consequences. They
> psychically followed me for a long time. Fortunately, I was too young and
> ignorant then to be of any interest to them...unless that's why certain things
> have happened certain ways...I'll give it some reflection...Be careful.
> They say they are just "researching laws of nature" but it appears to me that
> they are unscrupulous and honor no values of right and wrong.
> Nimueh

Huh?.... I don't mean that in a demeaning sense, btw. :slight_smile:

If I can draw an analogy here, it would be to replace the word 'Rosacrucians'
with the word 'Christian'. I know too many people than I care to list that
would use words like "they are unscrupulous and honor no values of right and wrong"
when they are talking about "christians".

From my experience (probably not massive but..), any time you try to stereotype
large organizations, it will be difficult due to the fact that the larger
the organization, the greater the individual discent.

However, if you can prove to me and everyone else that the 'Rosacrucians'
are only a few (and define a few) then this might possibly be a better arguement?
I could be wrong here.

I just know I've read some books that have never put 'Rosacrucians' in
a bad light. I would be glad to hear about and would be open-minded about
other books or experiences that are counter to my experiences. By no mean
have I read many books on 'Rosacrucians' so possibly you know much more than I.

Thanks!

Jeff

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Jeff, the Rosicrucians ("Of the Rosy Cross/Crux") have origins
lost in antiquity, possibly stretching back to Ancient Egypt. They
are generally considered to be a branch of the Illuminati, and to
manipulate human history and destiny for their own purposes.
Be very careful when dealing with or researching them.

Some believe them to be benevolent, others think them
malevolent. Probably, like the majority of humanity, they are
something of both....

I don't believe in joining or supporting elitist or secretive
societies. To each his/her own, though....

--M.

--- In [email protected], Jeff Frohwein <jeff@d...>
wrote:

I just know I've read some books that have never put

'Rosacrucians' in

a bad light. I would be glad to hear about and would be

open-minded about

other books or experiences that are counter to my experiences.

By no mean

have I read many books on 'Rosacrucians' so possibly you

know much more than I.

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Thanks!

Jeff

Nimueh,

Thanks for the feedback, very interesting. Any other feedback on the
Rosocrusians?

Dean

My curiosity about them in the long past resulted in spooky consequences.

They

psychically followed me for a long time. Fortunately, I was too young and
ignorant then to be of any interest to them...unless that's why certain

things

have happened certain ways...I'll give it some reflection...Be careful.
They say they are just "researching laws of nature" but it appears to me

that

they are unscrupulous and honor no values of right and wrong.
Nimueh

Dean wrote:

> List Members,
>
> Mike Malony recently brought to my attention the fact that the

Rosocrusians,

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> as a group, have some awareness of the hollow Earth theory. Does anybody
> know much about them or have any contact? I think that it would be
> interesting to make some contact and see what their basis is.
>
> Dharma/Dean

Mike,

Very interesting, thanks much for the feedback.

Dharma/Dean

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Jeff, the Rosicrucians ("Of the Rosy Cross/Crux") have origins
lost in antiquity, possibly stretching back to Ancient Egypt. They
are generally considered to be a branch of the Illuminati, and to
manipulate human history and destiny for their own purposes.
Be very careful when dealing with or researching them.

Some believe them to be benevolent, others think them
malevolent. Probably, like the majority of humanity, they are
something of both....

I don't believe in joining or supporting elitist or secretive
societies. To each his/her own, though....

--M.

Members,

One key body of evidence in favor of the Hollow Earth Theory comes from the
Arctic. The craziness of the compass, curvature anomalies, anomalous warming
of both the atmosphere and the Arctic sea, mirages and sightings of land
masses NOT covered in snow, colored snow, clouds of volcanic ash as well as
the existence of well-preserved mammoth all support the idea of a polar
opening to a warmer climate.

One of the first books in this regard was Pjantom of the Poles by Willima
Reed, published in 1906, I believe. I don't have that one, but below is a
section of the book as produced in The Hollow Earth by Dr. Raymond Bernard.

The Arctic evidence is a strong body of evidence and easy to understand. I
suggest that new members check out the Arctic Evidence page at my site as a
fisrt step: http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index5.html

Here is the section from the book:

WHAT PRODUCES COLORED SNOW IN THE ARCTIC ?

"Why is the snow colored in the Arctic regions? The snow has been analyzed
and the red, green and yellow have been found to contain vegetable matter,
presumably a flower, or the pollen of a plant. From where did it come? A
flower that produced pollen sufficient to permeate the air with such density
that it colored the snow, which require a vast territory - millions of
acres - to grow it. Where is that to be found? It must be near the North
Pole, for, if it grew elsewhere, colored snow would be found at other
locations, and not be confined to the Arctic regions. As no such flowering
plant is known on the earth's surface, we must look elsewhere.

"The interior of the earth is the only spot that will furnish us with an
answer to the question. As the colors fall at different seasons, we may
presume that the flowers mature at these seasons. It is also easy to find
out where the black snow, frequently mentioned by the explorers, comes from.
It comes out of an exploding volcano - of the kind that covered Nansen's
ship with dust. All unexplained questions could be easily answered if one
would believe that the earth is hollow. It is impossible to answer them
under any other theory.

"Kane, in his first volume, page 44, says: `We passed the Crimson Cliffs at
Sir John Ross in the forenoon of August 5th. The patches of red snow from
which they derive their name could be seen clearly at the distance of ten
miles from the coast. It had a fine deep rose hue.'

"Kane speaks of the red snow as if it had a regular season in which to
appear - as he says, `if the snowy surface were more diffused, as it is no
doubt earlier in the season.' In another place he speaks of the red snow
being two weeks later than usual. Now taking the fact into account that the
material that colors the snow is a vegetable matter, supposed to be the
blossom or pollen of a plant, and that no such plant grows on earth, where
does it come from? It must grow in the interior of the earth. "

Posted by Dharma/Dean

We now quote from Reed's book. On page 282 he says:

"The earth is either hollow or it is not. What proof have we that it is not
hollow? None at all that is positive and circumstantial. On the contrary,
everything points to its being hollow. If it be so, and if there are burning
volcanoes in the interior, would you not see great lights reflected on the
icebergs and clouds, just as other great fires reflect the light? Would not
great clouds of smoke and dust be seen - the same as from any other burning
volcano? That is what all the explorers have witnessed - low dark clouds
rising from the ocean, or at the edge of the ice. Nansen (an Arctic
explorer) said: `Let us go home: What have we here to stay for? Nothing but
dust, dust, dust!'

"Where could such dust come from - so bad that it was one of the great
annoyances in the heart of the Arctic Ocean, if it did not come from an
exploding, burning volcano (in the polar opening) ?

...

"The dust, so annoying in the Arctic Ocean, is also produced by volcanic
eruptions. Being light, it is carried far away by the wind, and when it
falls on ships, it is disagreeable. When it falls on the snow it produces
black snow. When analyzed it is found to consist of carbon and iron,
supposed to come from a burning volcano. Where is that volcano? No record or
account of any near the North Pole is found; and if it be elsewhere, why
does the dust fall in the Arctic Ocean?

Posted by Dharma/Dean

Thanks for the feedback, all, about Rosicrucians.
In my own case, I bought a Rosicrucian book years ago
because it contained a little bit of information on
how to train for astral projection, levitation, and
other esoteric topics.

It seems that they might not be as secretive or
elitist as some think, judging from these web sites.
(Links at bottom of page)

In fact, the first link openly invites the public
and explains what they are all about. To me, it sounds
like something that possibly everyone should investigate.

As I mentioned earlier, I know a few people that hate
Christians with a vengeance. This based on first-hand
experience with "Christians" that they found to be
hypocrites.
I'm almost positive that many "Christians" lead the
movement in the late 1700's(?) to burn witches at the
stake in Winston-Salem,USA. However, this should not
necessarily be used as an example of true Christian
representatives.

The main idea, being, that you figure out the core
concepts of any group and let that be a determining
factor rather than let yourself be swayed by few
"bad apples" that aren't true representatives.

In other words, we should all think/research for
ourselves rather than perpetuate rumors or unsubstantiated
paranoia. If there is any hard evidence of subversive
theology that is taught to Rosicrucian students, in
general, I would be glad to read/know about it.

I'm not trying to make a case for or against
Rosicrucians, btw. Nor, a case for or against Christians.

Jeff

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http://www.rosicrucian.org/
http://www.amorc.org/

And here they tell what AMORC is all about:
http://www.rosicrucian.org/rosicruc/mastery/1-welcome.html

From here...
http://www.rosicrucian.org/rosicruc/mastery/1-welcome.html#challenges
...I get this quote:

     "There are a number of web pages using the word "rosicrucian" in their name.
    Some are created by small groups who describe themselves as rosicrucian, while
    others are created by private individuals who simply have an interest in
    rosicrucianism. We're often asked if these other web sites are affiliated with
    the Rosicrucian Order, AMORC. The answer is: A few of them are, but most are not."

Jeff

Jeff,

Thanks for coming up with those websites about the Rosacrucians. Maybe I
shouldn't make comments about them until I see what they have to say about
themselves. Anyway, if they have some awareness about the hollow portion,
I'm curious. Some personal contact with them might be interesting. I see
that they have places in Sao Paulo. I guess I'll at least make a phone call.

Dharma/Dean