http://www.google.com/search?q=UFO+Bases+at+South+Pole&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&start=10&sa=N
The Military/Industrial Complex collaborates with the Greys, at Pine Gap, Colorado, Nevada and New Mexico. The Pleiadians, of the hollow earth are the enemy, because they are good and possess all the wealth of the World. Nazi's are bad!
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Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Google Search UFO Bases at South Pole
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So you can find out all about NAZI UFo bases in Antartica on Google search? I love it.
I think that the NAZI UFO idea could be a cover up, misinformation, for the fact that Byrd went down there and got roughed up by the Hollow Earthers. The Straight-line Theory stipulates that since so many flying saucers are seen in the Northern latitudes heading due North, they must be heading towards the HE and must originate there.
Dharma/Dean
Re: [allplanets-hollow] NAZI UFO
Bases
So you can find out all
about NAZI UFo bases in Antartica on Google search? I love
it.
I think that the NAZI
UFO idea could be a cover up, misinformation, for the fact that Byrd
went down there and got roughed up by the Hollow Earthers. The
Straight-line Theory stipulates that since so many flying saucers are
seen in the Northern latitudes heading due North, they must be
heading towards the HE and must originate there.
Dharma/Dean
Dean...
By "Straight-line Theory"
do you mean Michel's theory published in the 1960s? (Some
UFOs appeared to be going in straight lines from Antarctica toward
the North pole?)
To jog my memory, I just queried
my wife who spent a lot of time at APRO headquarters here in Tucson
decades past. She was a close friend of Coral Lorenzen (now
deceased), the co-founder with her husband of APRO (Aerial Phenomena
Research Organization) During the 60s in discussions they
all agreed that Michel's observances seemed to have some validity.
But later years of global observations by others of RANDOMITY seemed
to relegate it to just another maybe theory.
Or has MORE surfaced in recent
times to add additional credence to the "Straight-line
Theory?" We haven't heard of any, but may well have missed
it.
- Dick Fojut in Tucson
P.S. I really have no personal solid
belief that the Germans (everybody in the military wasn't a National
Socialist Party member) set up bases in Antarctica, but our Tucson
friend Col. Wendelle Stevens, seems well convinced. He has
probably the world's largest collection of authentic photos of UFOs.
And may be the most knowledgeable researcher of UFO phenomena
anywhere on the planet. Ask about him.
The government has looked on Col.
Stevens as an "enemy" for decades and constantly harassed him
(and a lot worse I won't relate). But his private contacts with old
military friends, allowed him to collect a huge number of real
photos of the many saucer craft the NAZIs designed and built before
and during world war 2. They all flew. The German scientists
continued improving the various models. And it is possible that SOME
of the craft did damage to allied bombers near the end of the war.
But they certainly don't explain all the "Foo Fighters" reported.
Recently he showed many photos to a group of us and explained one
model that had some attachment that appeared to put out
electromagnetic pulses or something similar.. It is known that entire
flights of allied bombers had their engines affected, some
temporarily stopped. (If any crashed it has been hidden). It is
possible, but not certain, that these German craft may have been
responsible.
Some of the German craft had
conventional large size cannons attached, some hanging from
below. Apparently they were not used against attacking bombers.
Why this technology didn't reverse the course of the war
may well be that they couldn't produce enough of them in time...
or a lot failed to live up to expectations. Just speculation. But
if they actually did have some underground bases in the antarctic or
nearby, as Col. Stevens thinks, perhaps some of them were flown there
before the Russians and Americans took over the underground factories
and captured many of their scientists and technicians. Again, just
speculation. Anyone else have information about German bases and the
craft mentioned above?
Anyone who comes close to the truth, is called a Nazi. So if they say the hollow earth is a Nazi conspiracy, (typical) that's a sure sign that we are close to the truth. Hazel.
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From:
Dean De Lucia
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 2:48 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] NAZI UFO Bases
So you can find out all about NAZI UFo bases in Antartica on Google search? I love it.
I think that the NAZI UFO idea could be a cover up, misinformation, for the fact that Byrd went down there and got roughed up by the Hollow Earthers. The Straight-line Theory stipulates that since so many flying saucers are seen in the Northern latitudes heading due North, they must be heading towards the HE and must originate there.
Dharma/Dean
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Re: [allplanets-hollow] NAZI UFO Bases
UFO'S are described as travelling at tremendous speed, tens of thousands of miles per hour and can change direction in a moment and zoom off into oblivion. Are Nazi pilots invincible, or have they discovered anti-gravity? Hazel.
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----- Original Message -----
From:
Dick Fojut
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 3:56 AM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] NAZI UFO Bases
So you can find out all about NAZI UFo bases in Antartica on Google search? I love it. I think that the NAZI UFO idea could be a cover up, misinformation, for the fact that Byrd went down there and got roughed up by the Hollow Earthers. The Straight-line Theory stipulates that since so many flying saucers are seen in the Northern latitudes heading due North, they must be heading towards the HE and must originate there.Dharma/Dean
Dean...
** By "Straight-line Theory" do you mean Michel's theory published in the 1960s?** (Some UFOs appeared to be going in straight lines from Antarctica toward the North pole?)
To jog my memory, I just queried my wife who spent a lot of time at APRO headquarters here in Tucson decades past. She was a close friend of Coral Lorenzen (now deceased), the co-founder with her husband of APRO (Aerial Phenomena Research Organization) ** During the 60s in discussions they all agreed that Michel's observances seemed to have some validity. But later years of global observations by others of RANDOMITY seemed to relegate it to just another maybe theory.**
Or has MORE surfaced in recent times to add additional credence to the "Straight-line Theory?" We haven't heard of any, but may well have missed it.
- Dick Fojut in Tucson
P.S. I really have no personal solid belief that the Germans (everybody in the military wasn't a National Socialist Party member) set up bases in Antarctica, but our Tucson friend ** Col. Wendelle Stevens,** seems well convinced. He has probably the world's largest collection of authentic photos of UFOs. And may be the most knowledgeable researcher of UFO phenomena anywhere on the planet. Ask about him.
The government has looked on Col. Stevens as an "enemy" for decades and constantly harassed him (and a lot worse I won't relate). But his private contacts with old military friends, ** allowed him to collect a huge number of real photos of the many saucer craft the NAZIs designed and built before and during world war 2** . They all flew. The German scientists continued improving the various models. And it is possible that SOME of the craft did damage to allied bombers near the end of the war. But they certainly don't explain all the "Foo Fighters" reported. Recently he showed many photos to a group of us and explained one model that had some attachment that appeared to put out electromagnetic pulses or something similar.. It is known that entire flights of allied bombers had their engines affected, some temporarily stopped. (If any crashed it has been hidden). It is possible, but not certain, that these German craft may have been responsible.
** Some of the German craft had conventional large size cannons attached, some hanging from below** . Apparently they were not used against attacking bombers. ** Why this technology didn't reverse the course of the war** ** may well be that they couldn't produce enough of them in time... or a lot failed to live up to expectations** . Just speculation. But if they actually did have some underground bases in the antarctic or nearby, as Col. Stevens thinks, perhaps some of them were flown there before the Russians and Americans took over the underground factories and captured many of their scientists and technicians. Again, just speculation. Anyone else have information about German bases and the craft mentioned above?
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Dick,
I am referring to the Straight-Line Theory which was mentioned in the book The Hollow Earth by Bernard. I don't want to go and look up the quote, but it is probably what you are talking about.
There may be random movement, too, but movement in a straight North and South Line, from high latitudes towards the Pole, has no explainable rationale, and would be explained by a Polar opening ( naerby ).
Dharma/Dean
···
Dean...
** By "Straight-line Theory" do you mean Michel's theory published in the 1960s?** (Some UFOs appeared to be going in straight lines from Antarctica toward the North pole?)
To jog my memory, I just queried my wife who spent a lot of time at APRO headquarters here in Tucson decades past. She was a close friend of Coral Lorenzen (now deceased), the co-founder with her husband of APRO (Aerial Phenomena Research Organization) ** During the 60s in discussions they all agreed that Michel's observances seemed to have some validity. But later years of global observations by others of RANDOMITY seemed to relegate it to just another maybe theory.**
Or has MORE surfaced in recent times to add additional credence to the "Straight-line Theory?" We haven't heard of any, but may well have missed it.
- Dick Fojut in Tucson
P.S. I really have no personal solid belief that the Germans (everybody in the military wasn't a National Socialist Party member) set up bases in Antarctica, but our Tucson friend ** Col. Wendelle Stevens,** seems well convinced. He has probably the world's largest collection of authentic photos of UFOs. And may be the most knowledgeable researcher of UFO phenomena anywhere on the planet. Ask about him.
The government has looked on Col. Stevens as an "enemy" for decades and constantly harassed him (and a lot worse I won't relate). But his private contacts with old military friends, ** allowed him to collect a huge number of real photos of the many saucer craft the NAZIs designed and built before and during world war 2** . They all flew. The German scientists continued improving the various models. And it is possible that SOME of the craft did damage to allied bombers near the end of the war. But they certainly don't explain all the "Foo Fighters" reported. Recently he showed many photos to a group of us and explained one model that had some attachment that appeared to put out electromagnetic pulses or something similar.. It is known that entire flights of allied bombers had their engines affected, some temporarily stopped. (If any crashed it has been hidden). It is possible, but not certain, that these German craft may have been responsible.
** Some of the German craft had conventional large size cannons attached, some hanging from below** . Apparently they were not used against attacking bombers. ** Why this technology didn't reverse the course of the war** ** may well be that they couldn't produce enough of them in time... or a lot failed to live up to expectations** . Just speculation. But if they actually did have some underground bases in the antarctic or nearby, as Col. Stevens thinks, perhaps some of them were flown there before the Russians and Americans took over the underground factories and captured many of their scientists and technicians. Again, just speculation. Anyone else have information about German bases and the craft mentioned above?
Re: [allplanets-hollow] NAZI UFO Bases
Some Mature analysis of Martian photos.
http://www.headstuf.com/headstuf/mars%20ruins.htm
DD
Re: [allplanets-hollow] NAZI UFO Bases
Dick/List Members,
Here is the section from Bernard's book, The Hollow Earth, on the subterranean origin of flying saucers.
http://members.tripod.com/XianRex/hollow/part7.htm
I think that he mentions the Straight-line Theory in this part.
He feels that if thegovernments of the world had flying saucers, that they wpould not keep it secret. I don't agree with him there, various scenarios could be put together whereby they would.
None of his chapter is absolute, some of the info and ideas are old hat. But it is worth reading. It is always good to familiarize ourselves with the line of thinking of hollow Earthers of yesteryear, to get a progressive perspective on things.
Later,
Dharma/Dean
Re: [allplanets-hollow] NAZI UFO Bases
Certain individuals who claim to be contactees (as opposed to abductees) describe the interior of the craft as transparent, whereby they can observe the route taken, over land and mountain ranges and often through a vortex in the sea, whereupon they enter a tunnel which leads to under-sea domed cities illuminating light. Some entrances have been located in the Northern Pacific and the Gulf of Mexico. There are twelve such vortices (gateways) at 72degree intervals. We know of them as 'Devil's triangles' the one's which occur in populated areas, like Bermuda or Japan, record many unexplained disappearances of vessels and aircraft. I believe these twelve gates are used by flying discs as a portal to inner-earth. If not, what are they? Hazel
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----- Original Message -----
From:
Dean De Lucia
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 3:05 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] The Subterranean Origin of the Flying Saucers
Dick/List Members,
Here is the section from Bernard's book, The Hollow Earth, on the subterranean origin of flying saucers.
I think that he mentions the Straight-line Theory in this part.
He feels that if thegovernments of the world had flying saucers, that they wpould not keep it secret. I don't agree with him there, various scenarios could be put together whereby they would.
None of his chapter is absolute, some of the info and ideas are old hat. But it is worth reading. It is always good to familiarize ourselves with the line of thinking of hollow Earthers of yesteryear, to get a progressive perspective on things.
Later,
Dharma/Dean
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It could be that the inhabitants of Earth at the time of Atlantis and Mu, were occupying both the inner and upper worlds but the global catastrophe on the surface, forced them to retreat permanently to the hollow of the earth. And they are still there. Hazel.
···
----- Original Message -----
From:
Dean De Lucia
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 3:05 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] The Subterranean Origin of the Flying Saucers
Dick/List Members,
Here is the section from Bernard's book, The Hollow Earth, on the subterranean origin of flying saucers.
I think that he mentions the Straight-line Theory in this part.
He feels that if thegovernments of the world had flying saucers, that they wpould not keep it secret. I don't agree with him there, various scenarios could be put together whereby they would.
None of his chapter is absolute, some of the info and ideas are old hat. But it is worth reading. It is always good to familiarize ourselves with the line of thinking of hollow Earthers of yesteryear, to get a progressive perspective on things.
Later,
Dharma/Dean
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Certain individuals who claim to be contactees (as opposed to abductees) describe the interior of the craft as transparent, whereby they can observe the route taken, over land and mountain ranges and often through a vortex in the sea, whereupon they enter a tunnel which leads to under-sea domed cities illuminating light. Some entrances have been located in the Northern Pacific and the Gulf of Mexico. There are twelve such vortices (gateways) at 72degree intervals. We know of them as 'Devil's triangles' the one's which occur in populated areas, like Bermuda or Japan, record many unexplained disappearances of vessels and aircraft. I believe these twelve gates are used by flying discs as a portal to inner-earth. If not, what are they? Hazel
To: Hazel
From: Dean
Can you reproduce any such testimony?
The second article on my abductions page mentions the testimony of two such cases, but that's all. Such testimony is rare.
Here it is below:
On page 175 of Alien Identities, Dr. Richard L Thompson ( http://www.afn.org/~bvi ) relates an underground abduction case where the underground base was accessed through the sea by a UFO:
“ On the evening of Januray 3, 1979, Cardenas, his friend Fernando Marti,and Marti’s wife and 13 year old daughter were driving around on the outskirts of Hialeah, looking for a pig they could buy for a roast. They were unsuccessful, and on the way home their car engine quit.The two men testified that the lights and starter wouldn’t work, and so they got out and began to look under the hood. At this point, they suddenly saw red and violet alternating lights reflecting off the engine and heard a sound like ‘many bees.’ ... Filiberto felt paralyzed, and he began to rise in the air shouting “ Don’t take me, don’t take me.” Later he recounted a strange and elaborate story that began when he awoke to find himself sitting, paralyzed, in the presence of a robot-like being and two men in tight-fitting suits. ... Filiberto said the alien beings looked quite human. They had elongated eyes with eyelashes, small flattened noses, long lipless mouths, and light beards. They also wore a symbol on the right of their chests, consisting of a serpent on a lazy X.
The story becomes even more extraordinary: The beings proceeded to take Filiberto to an underground base, traveling beneath the sea at high speed through a tunnel of “ firmed water “ that seemed to open in front of the craft so that water did not touch it. At the base, he met a human who was working with the aliens, and he was led through what seemed like a city.”
Dr. Thompson goes on to relate that Filiberto had several experiences while in this underground base accessed through the sea, some of them biological, some of them suggestive of mind control, then he was finally dropped of again on the surface.
And here is another account of an underground UFO abduction:
“ Betty Andreason ( Alien Identities, page 201 ) recalled being taken in a UFO through a tunnel bored through solid rock. This tunnel led through a strange landscape with a view of an ocean, a distant city and a pyramid.”Here is a narration from the Bhagavat Purana, Canto Nine, Canto 3, Texts 28 – 29. It does not describe abductions, nor materialistic nor demoniac beings, but it does describe an underground kingdom, in this case an undersea one. “ King Saryati begot three sons, named Uttanabarhi, Anarta and Bhurishena. From Anarta came a son nomed Revata. Oh Maharaj Parikshit, subduer of the enemies, this Revata constructed a kingdom known as Kushasthali in the depths of the ocean. There he lived and rules such tracts of land as Anarta, etc. He had 100 very nice sons, of whom the eldest was Kakudmi.”
Re: [allplanets-hollow] NAZI UFO Bases
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----- Original Message -----
From:
Hazel McKinlay
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] The Subterranean Origin of the Flying Saucers
Hazel,
The Atlantean suvivor theory is the most feasible theory to me as opposed to "alien" bases. I take it you have read the David Hatcher Childress material on this subject? Sean
It could be that the inhabitants of Earth at the time of Atlantis and Mu, were occupying both the inner and upper worlds but the global catastrophe on the surface, forced them to retreat permanently to the hollow of the earth. And they are still there. Hazel.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Dean De Lucia
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 3:05 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] The Subterranean Origin of the Flying Saucers
Dick/List Members,
Here is the section from Bernard's book, The Hollow Earth, on the subterranean origin of flying saucers.
I think that he mentions the Straight-line Theory in this part.
He feels that if thegovernments of the world had flying saucers, that they wpould not keep it secret. I don't agree with him there, various scenarios could be put together whereby they would.
None of his chapter is absolute, some of the info and ideas are old hat. But it is worth reading. It is always good to familiarize ourselves with the line of thinking of hollow Earthers of yesteryear, to get a progressive perspective on things.
Later,
Dharma/Dean
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Re: [allplanets-hollow] NAZI UFO Bases
Hi Sean, I haven't read David Hatcher Childress material, but I will now. It also makes sense because after this catastrophe, which laid waste the Earth...(with desperate survivors probably resorting to cannabilism) myths quite clearly state that 'gods' arrived to reintroduce seeds, agriculture and civilized society. Atlanteans perhaps, returning to the surface? Hazel.
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----- Original Message -----
From:
Sean Kinkade
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] The Subterranean Origin of the Flying Saucers
----- Original Message -----
From:
Hazel McKinlay
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 11:05 AM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] The Subterranean Origin of the Flying Saucers
Hazel,
The Atlantean suvivor theory is the most feasible theory to me as opposed to "alien" bases. I take it you have read the David Hatcher Childress material on this subject? Sean
It could be that the inhabitants of Earth at the time of Atlantis and Mu, were occupying both the inner and upper worlds but the global catastrophe on the surface, forced them to retreat permanently to the hollow of the earth. And they are still there. Hazel.
----- Original Message -----
From:
Dean De Lucia
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 3:05 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] The Subterranean Origin of the Flying Saucers
Dick/List Members,
Here is the section from Bernard's book, The Hollow Earth, on the subterranean origin of flying saucers.
I think that he mentions the Straight-line Theory in this part.
He feels that if thegovernments of the world had flying saucers, that they wpould not keep it secret. I don't agree with him there, various scenarios could be put together whereby they would.
None of his chapter is absolute, some of the info and ideas are old hat. But it is worth reading. It is always good to familiarize ourselves with the line of thinking of hollow Earthers of yesteryear, to get a progressive perspective on things.
Later,
Dharma/Dean
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Re: [allplanets-hollow] NAZI UFO Bases
List Members,
Just to give you all an idea, I have sent this posting, below, to two different Vedic studies-type lists, with a total of between 350 and 400 members. I take the Hollow Earth theory to other areas, introduce the thought, and even bring some new people back to this list.
Do you?
Dharma/Dean
Seems to me that Western Scholars have created a real confusion.
Ramayana is supposedly an Aryan vs. Dravidian war, yet both sides
seem to be Aryans to me.
Seems to me that even South Indians are Aryans.
Dear Sir,
You are right on this point. They have created confusion.
I had been thinking lately that even if there were an introduction of what is known as the Caucasian race into the Indian subcontinent, that this would not define them as the original carriers nor " introducers " of Vedic culture into the area. For example, look at the North American presence in Northern Europe. 5,000 years from now, archaeologists might dig through ruins and find the remains of mulitary bases of the USA and conclude that they invaded Europe circe 1950 and introduced Westen culture as a result! They might find the remains of a 7-11 in order to prove their point.
Even if the Aryans did introduce themselves into the region at some point, I doubt if they would have done so forcefully. I imagine whether or not such an introduction couldn't have occurred around the times of the Ramayana. It seems as if the purpose of the Supreme " Arya " involved protecting the followers of Vedic dharma on the surface of the planet in the area of the subcontinent. The Caucasian presence could have centered around the location of Kshatriya communities as reinforcers or protectors of dharma.
I think I have mentioned previously on this list that it is not a question of establishing, so much, the presence of this race or that one on any specific location of the planet. It is a matter of establishing the presence of human beings on the surface of the planet, repeatedly. At the end of every chatur yuga, humanity is extinguished from the surface of the Earth. It becomes re-generated. The Puranas tell us of prajapatis, progenitors, but they are mentioned in relation to the original population of the cosmos carried out under the direction of Shree Brahmaji. They are given no role in the periodic re-population of the surface of the planet at the end of every chatur yuga.
The city of Shambhalla is mentioned in this regard, as well as the Kalki Avatar. The city of Shambhalla is known as a city of the hollow Earth, the central cavity, in both Vedic, Puranic lore, as well as in Tibetan lore and collective memory. The Madhyatah, the central cavity, is mentioned in various pastimes, forming part of the actual fabric of the stories. The narrations of the Sons of Sagara, the kalki Avatar, as well as the Parasurama incarnation are all interwoven with the Madhyatah. In Ramayana, Shree Rama impressed Bali by drilling an arrow through the Eath's shell to the central part and back out the top again. This seems to be another reference. It is not easy to explain away or separate this theme from the Puranic presentation.
Unfortunately, hardly any scholar of indology or follower of Vedic dharma is conversant in this regard. It does take us by surprise, but maybe the time to start is now.
Your Servant,
Dharma/Dean
Hollow Earth in the Puranas http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/
Re: [allplanets-hollow] NAZI UFO Bases
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Enrique Castillo was in contact with ‘Pleiadians’ over a long period, (Billy Meier said this is not the constellation, seven sisters.) On his fifth contact, in 1975, Castillo was taken to an under-sea base. The craft, banking visibly began a perilous nosedive, the sea seemed to open up and it slowed down and plunged into the Pacific Ocean.
The initial darkness was suddenly illuminated and the water surrounding the craft was not touching it. The ‘cosmonaught’ explained this was due to an energy field which prevented the craft from being crushed by high pressure. They had entered the Marianas Trench, the deepest in the World.
The craft is able to displace gravity through propagation of a magnetic wave, controlled by shifting the magnetic poles around the craft so as to vector, not a propulsion system but the repulsion force of like charges…
In the San Juan Trench, north-west of Puerto Rico, (Bermuda Triangle) US Navy and Air Force found on a regular basis, a huge, disc-shaped craft would come out from the sea in the trench, ‘hanging stationary in the air on a great column of water before vanishing or submerging again.’
Timothy Good is a great source for ‘contacts’ with Venusians and Pleiadians. D'you think Vedic culture could be Venusian in origin, Dean? Hazel.
From: Dean De Lucia
Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2001 4:57 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Still More on the Subterranean Origin of the Flying Saucers
Certain individuals who claim to be contactees (as opposed to abductees) describe the interior of the craft as transparent, whereby they can observe the route taken, over land and mountain ranges and often through a vortex in the sea, whereupon they enter a tunnel which leads to under-sea domed cities illuminating light. Some entrances have been located in the Northern Pacific and the Gulf of Mexico. There are twelve such vortices (gateways) at 72degree intervals. We know of them as 'Devil's triangles' the one's which occur in populated areas, like Bermuda or Japan, record many unexplained disappearances of vessels and aircraft. I believe these twelve gates are used by flying discs as a portal to inner-earth. If not, what are they? Hazel
To: Hazel
From: Dean
Can you reproduce any such testimony?
The second article on my abductions page mentions the testimony of two such cases, but that's all. Such testimony is rare.
Here it is below:
On page 175 of Alien Identities, Dr. Richard L Thompson ( http://www.afn.org/~bvi ) relates an underground abduction case where the underground base was accessed through the sea by a UFO: “ On the evening of Januray 3, 1979, Cardenas, his friend Fernando Marti,and Marti’s wife and 13 year old daughter were driving around on the outskirts of Hialeah, looking for a pig they could buy for a roast. They were unsuccessful, and on the way home their car engine quit. The two men testified that the lights and starter wouldn’t work, and so they got out and began to look under the hood. At this point, they suddenly saw red and violet alternating lights reflecting off the engine and heard a sound like ‘many bees.’ ... Filiberto felt paralyzed, and he began to rise in the air shouting “ Don’t take me, don’t take me.” Later he recounted a strange and elaborate story that began when he awoke to find himself sitting, paralyzed, in the presence of a robot-like being and two men in tight-fitting suits. ... Filiberto said the alien beings looked quite human. They had elongated eyes with eyelashes, small flattened noses, long lipless mouths, and light beards. They also wore a symbol on the right of their chests, consisting of a serpent on a lazy X. The story becomes even more extraordinary: The beings proceeded to take Filiberto to an underground base, traveling beneath the sea at high speed through a tunnel of “ firmed water “ that seemed to open in front of the craft so that water did not touch it. At the base, he met a human who was working with the aliens, and he was led through what seemed like a city.” Dr. Thompson goes on to relate that Filiberto had several experiences while in this underground base accessed through the sea, some of them biological, some of them suggestive of mind control, then he was finally dropped of again on the surface. And here is another account of an underground UFO abduction: “ Betty Andreason ( Alien Identities, page 201 ) recalled being taken in a UFO through a tunnel bored through solid rock. This tunnel led through a strange landscape with a view of an ocean, a distant city and a pyramid.” Here is a narration from the Bhagavat Purana, Canto Nine, Canto 3, Texts 28 – 29. It does not describe abductions, nor materialistic nor demoniac beings, but it does describe an underground kingdom, in this case an undersea one. “ King Saryati begot three sons, named Uttanabarhi, Anarta and Bhurishena. From Anarta came a son nomed Revata. Oh Maharaj Parikshit, subduer of the enemies, this Revata constructed a kingdom known as Kushasthali in the depths of the ocean. There he lived and rules such tracts of land as Anarta, etc. He had 100 very nice sons, of whom the eldest was Kakudmi.”
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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Straight-Line
Theory
Dick,
I am referring to the
Straight-Line Theory which was mentioned in the book The Hollow Earth
by Bernard. I don't want to go and look up the quote, but it is
probably what you are talking about.
There may be random
movement, too, but movement in a straight North and South Line, from
high latitudes towards the Pole, has no explainable rationale, and
would be explained by a Polar opening ( naerby ).
Dharma/Dean
Dean...
Acknowledged.
- Dick