Fw: New Science - holographic nature of reality

Dear All, You might find this interesting. It's worth a wade-through.

   THE UNIVERSE AS A HOLOGRAM

>Does Objective Reality Exist or is the Universe a Phantasm?

>In 1982 a remarkable event took place. At the University of Paris, a
>research team led by physicist Alain Aspect performed what may turn out

to

>be one of the most important experiments of the 20th century. You did

not

>hear it on the evening news. In fact, unless you are in the habit of
>reading scientific journals you probably have never even heard Aspect's
>name, though there are some who believe his discovery may change the

face

of
>science.
>Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances

subatomic

>particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate with
>each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't

matter

>whether they are ten feet or 10 billion miles apart. Somehow each

particle

>always seems to know what the other is doing. The problem with this

feat

is
>that it violates Einstein's long held tenet that no communication can
travel
>faster than the speed of light. Since travelling faster than the speed

of

>light is tantamount to breaking the time barrier, this daunting prospect
has
>caused some physicists to try to come up with elaborate ways to explain
away
>Aspect's more radical explanations.
>University of London physicist David Bohm, for example, believes

Aspect's

>findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its
>apparent solidity the Universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and
>splendidly detailed hologram. To understand why Bohm makes this

startling

>assertion, one must first understand a little about holograms. A

hologram

>is a three-dimensional photograph made with the aid of a laser.
>To make a hologram, the object to be photographed is first bathed in the
>light of a laser beam. Then a second laser beam is bounced off the
>reflected light of the first and the resulting interference pattern (the
>area where the two laser beams co-mingle) is captured on film. When the
>film is developed, it looks like a meaningless swirl of light and dark
>lines. But as soon as the developed film is illuminated by another

laser

>beam, a three-dimensional image of the original object appears.
>The three dimensionality of such images is not the only remarkable
>characteristic of holograms. If a hologram of a rose is cut in half and
>then illuminated by a laser, each half will still be found to contain

the

>entire image of a rose. Indeed if the halves are divided again, each
>snippet of film will always be found to contain a smaller but intact
version
>of the original image. Unlike normal photographs, every part of a

hologram

>contains all the information possessed by the whole.
>The "whole in every part nature of a hologram provides us with an

entirely

>new way of understanding organization and order. For most of its

history,

>Western science has laboured under the bias that the best way to

understand

>a physical phenomenon, whether a frog or an atom, is to dissect it and
study
>its respective parts. A hologram teaches us that some things in the
>Universe may not lend themselves to this approach. If we try to take

apart

>something constructed holographically, we will not get the pieces of

which

>it is made; we will only get smaller wholes.
>This insight suggested to Bohm another way of understanding Aspect's
>discovery. Bohm believes the reason subatomic particles are able to
>remaining contact with one another regardless of the distance separating
>them is not because they are sending some sort of mysterious signal back
and
>forth, but because their separateness is an illusion. He argues that at
>some deeper level of reality such particles are not individual entities,
but
>are actually extensions of the same fundamental something.
>To enable people to better visualize what he means, Bohm offers the
>following illustration. Imagine an aquarium containing a fish. Imagine
>also that you are unable to see the aquarium directly and your knowledge
>about it and what it contains comes from two television cameras, one
>directed at the aquarium's front and the other directed at its side. As
you
>stare at the two television monitors, you might assume that the fish on
each
>of the screens are separate entities. After all, because the cameras

are

>set at different angles, each of the images will be slightly different.
But
>as you continue to watch the two fish, you will eventually become aware
that
>there is a certain relationship between them. When one turns, the other
>also makes a slightly different but corresponding turn, when one faces

the

>front the other always faces toward the side. If you remain unaware of

the

>full scope of the situation, you might even conclude that the fish must

be

>instantaneously communicating with one another, but this is clearly not

the

>case.
>This, says Bohm, is precisely what is going on between the subatomic
>particles in Aspect's experiment. According to Bohm, the apparent
>faster-than-light connection between subatomic particles is really

telling

>us that there is a deeper level of reality we are not privy to, a more
>complex dimension beyond our own that is analogous to the aquarium.

And,

he
>adds, we view objects such as subatomic particles as separate from one
>another because we are seeing only a portion of their reality. Such
>particles are not separate "parts", but facets of a deeper and more
>underlying unity that is ultimately as holographic and indivisible as

the

>previously mentioned rose. And since everything in physical reality is
>comprised of those "eidolons" the Universe is itself a projection, a
>hologram.
>In addition to the phantom like nature, such a Universe would possess

other

>rather startling features. If the apparent separateness of subatomic
>particles is illusory, it means that at a deeper level of reality al

things

>in the Universe are infinitely interconnected. The electrons in a

carbon

>atom in the human brain are connected to the subatomic particles that
>comprise every salmon that swims, every heart that beats and every star
that
>shimmers in the sky. Everything interpenetrates everything, and

although

>human nature may seek to categorize and pigeonhole and subdivide, the
>various phenomena of the Universe, all apportionments are of necessity
>artificial and all of nature is ultimately a seamless web.
>In a holographic Universe, even time and space could no loner be viewed

as

>fundamentals. Because concepts such as location break down in a

universe

in
>which nothing is truly separate from everything else, time and
>three-dimensional space, like the images of the fish on the TV monitors,
>would also have to be viewed as projections of this higher order. At

its

>deeper level reality is a sort of super hologram in which the past,

present

>and future all exist simultaneously. This suggests that given the

proper

>tools it might even be possible to someday reach into the

superholographic

>level of reality and pluck out scenes from the long forgotten past.
>What else the superhologram contains is an open-ended question.

Allowing,

>for the sake of argument, that the superhologram is the matrix that has
>given birth to everything else in the Universe, at the very least it
>contains every subatomic particle that has been or ever will be - every
>configuration of matter and energy that is possible, from snowflakes to
>quasars, from blue whales to gamma rays. It must be seen as a sort of
>cosmic storehouse of "All That Is."
>Although Bohm concedes that we have no way of knowing what else might

lie

>hidden in the superhologram, he does venture to say that we have no

reason

>to assume it does not contain more. Or as he puts it, perhaps the
>superholographic level of reality is a "mere stage" beyond which lies

"an

>infinity of further development". Bohm is not the only researcher who

has

>found evidence that the Universe is a hologram. Working independently

in

>the field of brain research, Standford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram

has

>also become persuaded of the holographic nature of reality.
>Pribram was drawn to the holographic model by the puzzle of how and

where

>memories are stored in the brain. For decades numerous studies have

shown

>that rather than being confined to a specific location, memories are
>dispersed throughout the brain. In a series of landmark experiments in

the

>1920's brain scientist Karl Lashley found that no matter what portion of

a

>rat's brain he removed he was unable to eradicate its memory of how to
>perform complex tasks it had learned prior to surgery. The only problem
was
>that no one was able to come up with a mechanism that might explain this
>curious "whole in every part" nature of memory storage.
>Then in the 1960's Pribram encountered the concept of holography and
>realized he had found the explanation brain scientists had been looking
for.
>Pribram believes memories are encoded not in neurons, or small groupings

of

>neurons, but in patterns of nerve impulses that crisscross the entire

area

>of a piece of film containing a holographic image. In other words,

Pribam

>believes the brain is itself a hologram.
>Pribram's theory also explains how the human brain can store so many
>memories in so little space. It has been estimated that the human brain

has

>the capacity to memorize something on the order of 10 billion bits of
>information during the average human lifetime (or roughly the same

amount

of
>information contained in five sets of the Encyclopaedia Britannica).
>Similarly, it has been discovered that in addition to their other
>capabilities, holograms possess an astounding capacity for information
>storage - simply by changing the angle at which the two lasers strike a
>piece of photographic film, it is possible to record many different

images

>on the same surface. It has been demonstrated that one cubic centimetre

of

>film can hold as many as 10 billion bits of information.
>Our uncanny ability to quickly retrieve whatever information we need

from

>the enormous store of our memories becomes more understandable if the

brain

>functions according to holographic principles. If a friend asks you to
tell
>him what comes to mind when he says the word "zebra", you do not have to
>clumsily sort back through some gigantic and cerebral alphabetic file to
>arrive at an answer. Instead associations like "striped, "horse like"

and

>"animal native to Africa" all pop into your head instantly. Indeed one

of

>the most amazing things about the human thinking process is that every
piece
>of information seems instantly cross-correlated with every other piece

of

>information - another feature intrinsic to the hologram. Because every
>portion of a hologram is infinitely interconnected with every other
portion,
>it is perhaps nature's supreme example of a cross-correlated system.
>The storage of memory is not the only neurophysiological puzzle that
becomes
>more tractable in light of Pribram's holographic model of the brain.
>Another is how the brain is able to translate the avalanche of

frequencies

>it receives via the senses (light frequencies, sound frequencies and so

on)

>into the concrete world of our perceptions. Encoding and decoding
>frequencies is precisely what a hologram does best. Just as a hologram
>functions as a sort of lens, a translating device able to convert an
>apparently meaningless blur of frequencies into a coherent image.

Pribram

>believes the brain also comprises a lens and uses holographic principles

to

>mathematically convert the frequencies it receives through the senses

into

>the inner world of our perception.
>An impressive body of evidence suggests that the brain uses holographic
>principles to perform its operations. Pribram's theory, in fact, has
gained
>increasing support among neurophysiologist. Argentinean-Italian

researcher

>Hugo Zucarelli recently extended the holographic principles can explain
this
>ability. Zucarelli has also developed the technology of holophonic

sound,

a
>recording technique able to reproduce acoustic situations with an almost
>uncanny realism.
>Pribam's belief that our brains mathematically construct "hard" reality

by

>relying on input from frequency domain has also received a good deal of
>experimental support. It has been found that each of our senses is
>sensitive to a much broader range of frequencies than was previously
>suspected. Researchers have discovered, for instance that our visual
>systems are sensitive to sound frequencies, that our sense of smell is

in

>part dependent on what are now called "osmic frequencies", and that even
the
>cells in our bodies are sensitive to a broad range of frequencies. Such
>findings suggest that it is only in the holographic domain of

consciousness

>that such frequencies are sorted out and divided up into conventional
>perceptions.
>But the most mind-boggling aspect of Pribram's holographic model of the
>brain is what happens when it is put together with Bohm's theory. For

if

>the concreteness of the world is but a secondary reality and what is

there

>is actually a holographic blur of frequencies and if the brain is also a
>hologram and only selects some of the frequencies out of this blur and
>mathematically transforms them into sensory perceptions, what becomes of
>objective reality? Put quite simply, it ceases to exist. As the

religions

>of the East have long upheld, the material world is Maya, an illusion,

and

>although we may think we are physical beings moving through a physical
>world, this too is an illusion. We are really "receivers" floating

through

>a kaleidoscopic sea of frequency and what we extract from this sea and
>transmogrify into physical reality is but one channel from many

extracted

>out of the superhologram.
>This striking new picture of reality, the synthesis of Bohm and

Pribram's

>views, has come to be called the holographic paradigm, and although many
>scientists have greeted it with scepticism, it has galvanized others. A
>small but growing group of researchers believe it may be the most

accurate

>model of reality science has arrived at thus far. More than that, some
>believe it may solve some mysteries that have never before been

explainable

>by science and even establish the paranormal as a part of nature.
>Numerous researchers, including Bohm and Pribram, have noted that many
>para-psychological phenomena become much more understandable in terms of
the
>holographic paradigm. In a Universe in which individual brains are
actually
>indivisible portions of the greater hologram and everything is

infinitely

>connected, telepathy may merely be the accessing of the holographic

level.

>It is obviously much easier to understand how information can travel

from

>the mind of individual "A" to that of individual "B" at a far distance
point
>and helps to understand a number of unsolved puzzles in psychology. In
>particular, Grof feels the holographic paradigm offers a model for
>understanding many of the baffling phenomena experienced by individuals
>during altered states of consciousness.
>In the 1950s, while conducting research into the beliefs of LSD as a
>psychotherapeutic tool, Grof had one female patient who suddenly became
>convinced she had assumed the identity of a female of the species of
>prehistoric reptile. During the course of her hallucination, she not

only

>gave a richly detailed description of what it felt like to be

encapsulated

>in such a form, but also noted that the portion of the male of the

specie's

>anatomy was a patch of colored scales on the side of its head. What was
>startling to Grof was that although the woman had no prior knowledge

about

>such things, a conversation with a zoologist later confirmed that in
certain
>species of reptiles colored areas on the had to indeed play an important
>role as triggers of sexual arousal.
>The woman's experience was not unique. During the course of his

research,

>Grof encountered examples of patients regressing and identifying with
>virtually every species on the evolutionary tree (research findings

which

>helped influence the man-into-ape scene in the movie ALTERED STATES).
>Moreover, he found that such experiences frequently contained obscure
>zoological details, which turned out to be accurate.
>Regressions into the animal kingdom were not the only puzzling
psychological
>phenomena Grof encountered. He also had patients who appeared to tap

into

>some sort of collective or racial unconscious. Individuals with little

or

>no education suddenly gave detailed descriptions of Zoroastrian funerary
>practices and scenes from Hindu mythology. In other categories of
>experience, individuals gave persuasive accounts of out-of-body

journeys,

of
>precognitive glimpses of the future, of regression into apparent

past-life

>incarnations.
>In later research, Grof found that the same range of phenomena

manifested

in
>therapy sessions, which did not involve the use of drugs. Because the
>common element in such experiences appeared to be transcending of an
>individual's consciousness beyond the usual boundaries of ego and/or
>limitations of space and time, Grof called such manifestations
>"transpersonal experiences", and in the late 1960s he helped found a

branch

>of psychology called "transpersonal psychology" devoted entirely to

their

>study.
>Although Grof's newly founded Association of Transpersonal Psychology
>garnered a rapidly growing group of like-minded professionals and has
become
>a respected branch of psychology, for years neither Grof nor any of his
>colleagues were able to offer a mechanism for explaining the bizarre
>psychological phenomena they were witnessing. But that has changed with
the
>advent of the holographic paradigm.
>As Grof recently noted, if the mind is actually part of a continuum, a
>labyrinth that is connected not only to every other mind that exists or

has

>existed, but to every atom, organism, and region in the vastness of

space

>and time itself, the fact that it is able to occasionally make forays

into

>the labyrinth and have transpersonal experiences no longer seems so
strange.
>The holographic paradigm also has implications for so called hard

sciences,

>like biology. Keith Floyd, a psychologist at Virginia Intermont

College,

>has pointed out that if the concreteness of reality is but a holographic
>illusion, it would no longer be true to say the brain produces
>consciousness. Rather, it is consciousness that creates the appearance

of

>the brain as well as the body and everything else around us we interpret

as

>physical.
>Such a turnabout in the way we view biological structures has caused
>researchers to point out that medicine and our understanding of the

healing

>process could also be transformed by the olographic paradigm. If the
>apparent physical structure of the body is but a holographic projection

of

>consciousness, it becomes clear that each of us is much more responsible
for
>our health than the current medical wisdom allows. What we now view as
>miraculous remissions of disease may actually be due to changes in
>consciousness that in turn effect changes in the hologram of the body.
>Similarly, controversial new healing techniques such as visualization

may

>work so well because in the holographic domain of thought images are
>ultimately as real as "reality". Even visions and experiences involving
>"non-ordinary" reality becomes explainable under the holographic

paradigm.

>In his book, GIFTS OF UNKNOWN THINGS, biologist Lyall Watson describes

his

>encounter with an Indonesian shaman woman who, by performing a ritual
dance,
>was able to make an entire grove of trees instantly vanish into thin

air.

>Watson relates that as he and another astonished onlooker continued to
watch
>the woman, she caused the trees to reappear, then "click" off again and

on

>again several times in succession.
>Although current scientific understanding is incapable of explaining

such

>events, experiences like this become more tenable if "hard" reality is

only

>a holographic projection. Perhaps we agree on what is "there" or "not
> there" because what we call consensus reality is formulated and

ratified

at
>the level of the human unconscious at which all minds are infinitely
>inter-connected. If this is true, it is the most profound implication

of

>the holographic paradigm of all, for it means that experiences such as
>Watson's are not commonplace only because we have not programmed our

minds

>with the beliefs that would make them so. In a holographic Universe

there

>are no limits to the extent to which we can alter the fabric of reality.
>What we perceive as reality is not only a canvas waiting for us to draw
upon
>it any picture we want. Anything is possible, from bending spoons with

the

>power of the mind to the phantasmagorical events experienced by

Casteneda

>during his encounters with the Yaqui brujo don Juan, for magic is our
>birthright, no more or less miraculous than our ability to compute the
>reality we want when we are in our dreams. Indeed, even our most
>fundamental notions about reality become suspect, for in a holographic
>Universe, as Pribram has pointed out, even random events would have to

be

>seen as based on holographic principles and therefore determined.
>Synchronicities or meaningful coincidences suddenly makes sense, and
>everything in reality would have to be seen as a metaphor, for even the
most
>haphazard events would express some underlying symmetry.
>Whether Bohm and Pribram's holographic paradigm becomes accepted in

science

>or dies an ignoble death remains to be seen, but it is safe to say that

it

>has already had an influence on the thinking of many scientists. And

even

>if it is found that the holographic model does not provide the best
>explanation for the instantaneous communications that seem to be passing
>back and forth between subatomic particles, at the very least, as noted

by

···

>Bail Hiley, a physicist at Birbeck College in London. Aspect's findings
>"indicate that we must be prepared to consider radically new views of
>reality"

                 --------------------------------------------------

From Vedic Culture Remains in the Hollow Earth:
http://skywebsite.com/hollow/Vedic-Hollow-Earth/id10.html

As the father and son worked their way further in they came to the shoreline
of a continent and followed it. They noticed huge trees and mammoths twice
the size of elephants. At one point they crossed paths with what the Olaf
described as a gigantic ship, bigger than any he had ever imagined. Of
course, this was in 1830. It seemed to him to be some type of cruise or
excursion ship because the decks were flooded with people singing songs in a
jolly mood. The two voyagers were met by occupants of the ship and taken
aboard. They found themselves in the company of humans of giant stature, the
shortest being over 12 feet tall!

They were given a welcome treatment in the hollow Earth; they toured the
kingdoms of Shambala the Lesser and Shambala the Greater. Their boat was
taken from city to city and displayed as an object of curiosity and marvel,
a midget craft of the tiny men who had wandered in from the surface.

What exactly about Olaf's report was suggestive of Vedic culture, as it was
before the beginning of Kali Yuga, in the hollow Earth? Well, we already
know that Olaf reported giant human beings. Among other things he also
reported that they enjoyed a life span of around 800 years, had photographic
memory, great intelligence, that they spoke Sanskrit or a close derivative,
were of a Northern European stock of race, worshipped the inner Sun and a
pantheon of gods at least similar to the Hindu, if not the same. ( Remember
that he was young when he went there and could not communicate too well with
them, nor absorb everything that he saw around him. So it might have been
hard for him to interpret exactly what he saw. ). He reported that the
flowers all had tremendous fragrances and that the fruits were more tasty
than on the surface.

" Vegetation grew in lavish exuberance, and fruit of all kinds possessed the
most delicate flavour. Clusters of grapes four and five feet in length, each
grape as large as an orange, and apples larger than a man's head typified
the wonderful growth of all things on the " inside " of the Earth. The great
redwood trees of California would be considered mere underbrush compared
with the giant forest trees extending for miles and miles in all
directions. In many directions along the foothills of the mountains vast
herds of cattle were seen during the last day of our travel on the river."

It suffices to say that to anyone familiar with the puranic descriptions of
human beings before the advent of Kali Age, Olaf's testimony provides a
shocking correspondence.

Posted by Dharma/Dean

DD, Howard Menger who allegedly met a 'Venusian' who took him on a flight to
the moon, said he had a shimmering cape fastened with a golden broach in the
shape of a wheel. That is the ancient Vedic symbol for the Wheel of Karma,
still used by Buddhists. Coincidence? Hazel.

···

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean De Lucia" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Cc: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 2:07 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Vedic Culture Remains in the Hollow Earth

From Vedic Culture Remains in the Hollow Earth:
http://skywebsite.com/hollow/Vedic-Hollow-Earth/id10.html

As the father and son worked their way further in they came to the

shoreline

of a continent and followed it. They noticed huge trees and mammoths twice
the size of elephants. At one point they crossed paths with what the Olaf
described as a gigantic ship, bigger than any he had ever imagined. Of
course, this was in 1830. It seemed to him to be some type of cruise or
excursion ship because the decks were flooded with people singing songs in

a

jolly mood. The two voyagers were met by occupants of the ship and taken
aboard. They found themselves in the company of humans of giant stature,

the

shortest being over 12 feet tall!

They were given a welcome treatment in the hollow Earth; they toured the
kingdoms of Shambala the Lesser and Shambala the Greater. Their boat was
taken from city to city and displayed as an object of curiosity and

marvel,

a midget craft of the tiny men who had wandered in from the surface.

What exactly about Olaf's report was suggestive of Vedic culture, as it

was

before the beginning of Kali Yuga, in the hollow Earth? Well, we already
know that Olaf reported giant human beings. Among other things he also
reported that they enjoyed a life span of around 800 years, had

photographic

memory, great intelligence, that they spoke Sanskrit or a close

derivative,

were of a Northern European stock of race, worshipped the inner Sun and a
pantheon of gods at least similar to the Hindu, if not the same. (

Remember

that he was young when he went there and could not communicate too well

with

them, nor absorb everything that he saw around him. So it might have been
hard for him to interpret exactly what he saw. ). He reported that the
flowers all had tremendous fragrances and that the fruits were more tasty
than on the surface.

" Vegetation grew in lavish exuberance, and fruit of all kinds possessed

the

most delicate flavour. Clusters of grapes four and five feet in length,

each

grape as large as an orange, and apples larger than a man's head typified
the wonderful growth of all things on the " inside " of the Earth. The

great

redwood trees of California would be considered mere underbrush compared
with the giant forest trees extending for miles and miles in all
directions. In many directions along the foothills of the mountains vast
herds of cattle were seen during the last day of our travel on the river."

It suffices to say that to anyone familiar with the puranic descriptions

of

human beings before the advent of Kali Age, Olaf's testimony provides a
shocking correspondence.

Posted by Dharma/Dean

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[email protected]

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to Yahoo | Mail, Weather, Search, Politics, News, Finance, Sports & Videos

DD, Howard Menger who allegedly met a 'Venusian' who took him on a flight

to

the moon, said he had a shimmering cape fastened with a golden broach in

the

shape of a wheel. That is the ancient Vedic symbol for the Wheel of Karma,
still used by Buddhists. Coincidence? Hazel.

Hazel,

I have read about Menger and Adamski through the Ross book, UFOs and the
Complete Evidence from Space. they both seemto be credible.

DD

···

Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Vedic Culture Remains in the Hollow Earth

Hazel.

Nice Post. If I am not mistaken, I believe this is right in line with Eastern Philosophy. Deepak Chopra (sp) was talking about this 5-7 years ago, and I think he was simplifying mysticism, shamanism, and how it works. Also, in the book "The Ultimate Reality" by Cater--DD's favorite, Cater explains this -- I have witnesses things like this so no need to convince me. Another book--Dream Time & Inner Space goes into this in detail from a shamanic aspect by Holger Kalweit. It is how a person is seen in more than one place at time, and does happen. Very cool......anyway, enjoyed reading this.

Take care, Les

···

----- Original Message -----

From:
Hazel

To: [email protected]

Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:31 PM

Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Fw: New Science - holographic nature of reality

Dear All, You might find this interesting. It's worth a wade-through.

THE UNIVERSE AS A HOLOGRAM

Does Objective Reality Exist or is the Universe a Phantasm?

``
`

Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 5/31/01`

Leslee, It's also the means whereby one can do absent healing, but it is also the frequency through which telepathic mind-control could be applied, by those who wish to accomplish that result. Hazel

···

----- Original Message -----

From:
AstroCafe

To: [email protected]

Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 10:42 AM

Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Fw: New Science - holographic nature of reality

Hazel.

Nice Post. If I am not mistaken, I believe this is right in line with Eastern Philosophy. Deepak Chopra (sp) was talking about this 5-7 years ago, and I think he was simplifying mysticism, shamanism, and how it works. Also, in the book "The Ultimate Reality" by Cater--DD's favorite, Cater explains this -- I have witnesses things like this so no need to convince me. Another book--Dream Time & Inner Space goes into this in detail from a shamanic aspect by Holger Kalweit. It is how a person is seen in more than one place at time, and does happen. Very cool......anyway, enjoyed reading this.

Take care, Les

----- Original Message -----

From:
Hazel

To: [email protected]

Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 4:31 PM

Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Fw: New Science - holographic nature of reality

> Dear All, You might find this interesting.  It's worth a wade-through.

THE UNIVERSE AS A HOLOGRAM

Does Objective Reality Exist or is the Universe a Phantasm?

``
`

Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.

Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 5/31/01`

` To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[email protected]

`

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the [Yahoo! Terms of Service](http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/).

THE UNIVERSE AS A HOLOGRAM

Does Objective Reality Exist or is the Universe a Phantasm?

Here is an URL: Holographic Universe

Interesting article. Yet they are simply 'rediscovering America' from my

(Vedic) point of view.

Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances

subatomic

particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate

with

each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't

matter

whether they are ten feet or 10 billion miles apart. Somehow each

particle

always seems to know what the other is doing.

This is already explained in the Vedic shastras. The connecting factor
is
Paramatma, an aspect of God in every atom. Bhagavata Purana 6.16.36
says:

"You exist in the beginning, middle and end of everything, from the most
minute particle of the cosmic manifestation to the gigantic universes
and total material
energy. Nonetheless, You are eternal, having no beginning, end or
middle. You
are perceived to exist in these three phases, and thus You are
permanent.
When the cosmic manifestation does not exist, You exist as the original
potency."

11.15.12: "I exist within everything, and I am therefore the essence of
the atomic constituents of material elements. By attaching his mind to
Me in this form, the yogi may achieve the perfection called laghima, by
which he realizes the subtle atomic substance of time."

�I worship the Personality of Godhead, Govinda, who, by one of His
plenary
portions, enters into the existence of every universe and every particle
of the
atoms [lit. 'paramanu', smallest particle] and thus unlimitedly
manifests His
infinite energy all over the material creation.� (Brahma-samhita 5.35)

University of London physicist David Bohm, for example, believes
Aspect's
findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its

apparent solidity the Universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and
splendidly detailed hologram.

Material energy forms a matrix of this material world energized by
atmas (innumerable living beings) and Paramatma (supreme living being),
original creator of this matrix. It is designed according to the
spiritual realm
as its reflection. Although Paramatma is present in many particles, it
is at
the same time one, like a reflection of one sun in many drops of dew:

He argues that at
some deeper level of reality such particles are not individual

entities, but

are actually extensions of the same fundamental something.

At its deeper level reality is a sort of super hologram in which the

past,

present and future all exist simultaneously. This suggests that given

the

proper tools it might even be possible to someday reach into the
superholographic level of reality and pluck out scenes from the long
forgotten past.

Etheric records (akasha chronicle) store this information but it takes
more
subtle approach to retrieve it than the present science has.

field of brain research, Standford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram
has also become persuaded of the holographic nature of reality.
Pribram was drawn to the holographic model by the puzzle of how and
where memories are stored in the brain. For decades numerous studies
have shown that rather than being confined to a specific location,

memories

are dispersed throughout the brain. In a series of landmark

experiments in

the 1920's brain scientist Karl Lashley found that no matter what

portion of

a rat's brain he removed he was unable to eradicate its memory of how

to

perform complex tasks it had learned prior to surgery. The only

problem

was that no one was able to come up with a mechanism that might

explain this

curious "whole in every part" nature of memory storage.

Memories are part of subtle, astral body, therefore they are not located
in
any specific place in brain. They are retrieved by Paramatma according
to
our desire and karma: "I am seated in everyone�s heart, and from Me come
remembrance, knowledge and forgetfulness. By all the Vedas, I am to be
known. Indeed, I am the compiler of Vedanta, and I am the knower of the
Vedas." (Bhagavad-gita 15.15)

experimental support. It has been found that each of our senses is
sensitive to a much broader range of frequencies than was previously
suspected. Researchers have discovered, for instance that our visual
systems are sensitive to sound frequencies, that our sense of smell is

in part dependent on what are now called "osmic frequencies", and that

even the cells in our bodies are sensitive to a broad range of

frequencies.

The senses are also part of the subtle body and are operated by
Paramatma
according to our desires and karma. In pure state, free from matter, the
living
being's senses work interchangeably.

mathematically transforms them into sensory perceptions, what becomes

of

objective reality? Put quite simply, it ceases to exist. As the

religions

of the East have long upheld, the material world is Maya, an illusion,

and

although we may think we are physical beings moving through a physical

world, this too is an illusion.

The maya is in the 'eye of the beholder' (every living being with
materially
tainted vision). It is a perception of reality disconnected from the
Supreme
Lord. But this world is not non-existing, just temporary. This is the
difference between explanations by Advaita and Dvaita Vedanta.

"Although one may consider the reflection of the sun from a mirror to be

false, it has its factual existence. Accordingly, to prove by
speculative
knowledge that there is no reality would be extremely difficult."
(Bhagavata
Purana 7.15.58)

During the course of his research, Grof encountered examples of

patients

regressing and identifying with virtually every species

The Vedas speak about spiritual evolution through many bodies, not
evolution
of material bodies themselves.

Keith Floyd, a psychologist at Virginia Intermont College,
has pointed out that if the concreteness of reality is but a

holographic

illusion, it would no longer be true to say the brain produces
consciousness. Rather, it is consciousness that creates the

appearance of

the brain as well as the body and everything else around us we

interpret

as physical.

Yes, from subtler comes the grosser. Consciousness, the symptom of life
(presence of living being), is the cause of our material coverings in
the form
of body (bodies).

process could also be transformed by the olographic paradigm. If the
apparent physical structure of the body is but a holographic

projection of

consciousness, it becomes clear that each of us is much more

responsible

for our health than the current medical wisdom allows. What we now

view

as miraculous remissions of disease may actually be due to changes in
consciousness that in turn effect changes in the hologram of the body.

Ayurveda teaches this for thousands of years.

If this is true, it is the most profound implication of
the holographic paradigm of all, for it means that experiences such as

Watson's are not commonplace only because we have not programmed
our minds with the beliefs that would make them so.

The beliefs themselves depend on gunas, modes of nature in which we are
operating. Thus the perception differs considerably for various people.
Truly spiritual vision has only one who is completely free from the
influence
of gunas.

In a holographic Universe there are no limits to the extent to which

we can

alter the fabric of reality. What we perceive as reality is not only a

canvas

waiting for us to draw upon it any picture we want. Anything is

possible,

from bending spoons with the power of the mind to the phantasmagorical

events experienced by Casteneda during his encounters with the Yaqui
brujo don Juan, for magic is our birthright, no more or less

miraculous than

our ability to compute the reality we want when we are in our dreams.

Magic is our birthright... hmm. Magic is nothing else than manipulation
of
matter so one has to consider law of karma, too. Otherwise with enhanced

means we may get into even bigger trouble than we are in now. That's why

one shouldn't give matches to little kids.

Synchronicities or meaningful coincidences suddenly makes sense, and
everything in reality would have to be seen as a metaphor, for even

the

most haphazard events would express some underlying symmetry.

Vedas claim there is no such thing as a 'chance'.

as noted by
Bail Hiley, a physicist at Birbeck College in London. Aspect's

findings

"indicate that we must be prepared to consider radically new views of

reality"

It's about time...

Jan

Dean, Adamski-ites are still shot down in flames, but you didn't answer my
question. Is the wheel broach an indication that these ET's practise Vedic
religion, perhaps as Leslee said of Atlantis, a Universal ideology? Haze

···

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean De Lucia" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2001 7:00 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] menger

Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Vedic Culture Remains in the Hollow Earth

> DD, Howard Menger who allegedly met a 'Venusian' who took him on a

flight

to
> the moon, said he had a shimmering cape fastened with a golden broach in
the
> shape of a wheel. That is the ancient Vedic symbol for the Wheel of

Karma,

> still used by Buddhists. Coincidence? Hazel.

Hazel,

I have read about Menger and Adamski through the Ross book, UFOs and the
Complete Evidence from Space. they both seemto be credible.

DD

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[email protected]

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to Yahoo | Mail, Weather, Search, Politics, News, Finance, Sports & Videos

Jan, Great analysis from a Vedic perspective, I can't dispute anything you
said...you are well versed in yoga theosophy, aren't you? Hazel

···

----- Original Message -----
From: "JanJM" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 8:20 PM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Fw: New Science - holographic nature of
reality

THE UNIVERSE AS A HOLOGRAM

Does Objective Reality Exist or is the Universe a Phantasm?

Here is an URL: Holographic Universe

Interesting article. Yet they are simply 'rediscovering America' from my

(Vedic) point of view.

> Aspect and his team discovered that under certain circumstances
subatomic
> particles such as electrons are able to instantaneously communicate
with
> each other regardless of the distance separating them. It doesn't
matter
> whether they are ten feet or 10 billion miles apart. Somehow each
particle
> always seems to know what the other is doing.

This is already explained in the Vedic shastras. The connecting factor
is
Paramatma, an aspect of God in every atom. Bhagavata Purana 6.16.36
says:

"You exist in the beginning, middle and end of everything, from the most
minute particle of the cosmic manifestation to the gigantic universes
and total material
energy. Nonetheless, You are eternal, having no beginning, end or
middle. You
are perceived to exist in these three phases, and thus You are
permanent.
When the cosmic manifestation does not exist, You exist as the original
potency."

11.15.12: "I exist within everything, and I am therefore the essence of
the atomic constituents of material elements. By attaching his mind to
Me in this form, the yogi may achieve the perfection called laghima, by
which he realizes the subtle atomic substance of time."

"I worship the Personality of Godhead, Govinda, who, by one of His
plenary
portions, enters into the existence of every universe and every particle
of the
atoms [lit. 'paramanu', smallest particle] and thus unlimitedly
manifests His
infinite energy all over the material creation." (Brahma-samhita 5.35)

> University of London physicist David Bohm, for example, believes
> Aspect's
> findings imply that objective reality does not exist, that despite its

> apparent solidity the Universe is at heart a phantasm, a gigantic and
> splendidly detailed hologram.

Material energy forms a matrix of this material world energized by
atmas (innumerable living beings) and Paramatma (supreme living being),
original creator of this matrix. It is designed according to the
spiritual realm
as its reflection. Although Paramatma is present in many particles, it
is at
the same time one, like a reflection of one sun in many drops of dew:

> He argues that at
> some deeper level of reality such particles are not individual
entities, but
> are actually extensions of the same fundamental something.

> At its deeper level reality is a sort of super hologram in which the
past,
> present and future all exist simultaneously. This suggests that given
the
> proper tools it might even be possible to someday reach into the
> superholographic level of reality and pluck out scenes from the long
> forgotten past.

Etheric records (akasha chronicle) store this information but it takes
more
subtle approach to retrieve it than the present science has.

> field of brain research, Standford neurophysiologist Karl Pribram
> has also become persuaded of the holographic nature of reality.
> Pribram was drawn to the holographic model by the puzzle of how and
> where memories are stored in the brain. For decades numerous studies
> have shown that rather than being confined to a specific location,
memories
> are dispersed throughout the brain. In a series of landmark
experiments in
> the 1920's brain scientist Karl Lashley found that no matter what
portion of
> a rat's brain he removed he was unable to eradicate its memory of how
to
> perform complex tasks it had learned prior to surgery. The only
problem
> was that no one was able to come up with a mechanism that might
explain this
> curious "whole in every part" nature of memory storage.

Memories are part of subtle, astral body, therefore they are not located
in
any specific place in brain. They are retrieved by Paramatma according
to
our desire and karma: "I am seated in everyone's heart, and from Me come
remembrance, knowledge and forgetfulness. By all the Vedas, I am to be
known. Indeed, I am the compiler of Vedanta, and I am the knower of the
Vedas." (Bhagavad-gita 15.15)

> experimental support. It has been found that each of our senses is
> sensitive to a much broader range of frequencies than was previously
> suspected. Researchers have discovered, for instance that our visual
> systems are sensitive to sound frequencies, that our sense of smell is

> in part dependent on what are now called "osmic frequencies", and that

> even the cells in our bodies are sensitive to a broad range of
frequencies.

The senses are also part of the subtle body and are operated by
Paramatma
according to our desires and karma. In pure state, free from matter, the
living
being's senses work interchangeably.

> mathematically transforms them into sensory perceptions, what becomes
of
> objective reality? Put quite simply, it ceases to exist. As the
religions
> of the East have long upheld, the material world is Maya, an illusion,
and
> although we may think we are physical beings moving through a physical

> world, this too is an illusion.

The maya is in the 'eye of the beholder' (every living being with
materially
tainted vision). It is a perception of reality disconnected from the
Supreme
Lord. But this world is not non-existing, just temporary. This is the
difference between explanations by Advaita and Dvaita Vedanta.

"Although one may consider the reflection of the sun from a mirror to be

false, it has its factual existence. Accordingly, to prove by
speculative
knowledge that there is no reality would be extremely difficult."
(Bhagavata
Purana 7.15.58)

> During the course of his research, Grof encountered examples of
patients
> regressing and identifying with virtually every species

The Vedas speak about spiritual evolution through many bodies, not
evolution
of material bodies themselves.

> Keith Floyd, a psychologist at Virginia Intermont College,
> has pointed out that if the concreteness of reality is but a
holographic
> illusion, it would no longer be true to say the brain produces
> consciousness. Rather, it is consciousness that creates the
appearance of
> the brain as well as the body and everything else around us we
interpret
> as physical.

Yes, from subtler comes the grosser. Consciousness, the symptom of life
(presence of living being), is the cause of our material coverings in
the form
of body (bodies).

> process could also be transformed by the olographic paradigm. If the
> apparent physical structure of the body is but a holographic
projection of
> consciousness, it becomes clear that each of us is much more
responsible
> for our health than the current medical wisdom allows. What we now
view
> as miraculous remissions of disease may actually be due to changes in
> consciousness that in turn effect changes in the hologram of the body.

Ayurveda teaches this for thousands of years.

> If this is true, it is the most profound implication of
> the holographic paradigm of all, for it means that experiences such as

> Watson's are not commonplace only because we have not programmed
> our minds with the beliefs that would make them so.

The beliefs themselves depend on gunas, modes of nature in which we are
operating. Thus the perception differs considerably for various people.
Truly spiritual vision has only one who is completely free from the
influence
of gunas.

> In a holographic Universe there are no limits to the extent to which
we can
> alter the fabric of reality. What we perceive as reality is not only a
canvas
> waiting for us to draw upon it any picture we want. Anything is
possible,
> from bending spoons with the power of the mind to the phantasmagorical

> events experienced by Casteneda during his encounters with the Yaqui
> brujo don Juan, for magic is our birthright, no more or less
miraculous than
> our ability to compute the reality we want when we are in our dreams.

Magic is our birthright... hmm. Magic is nothing else than manipulation
of
matter so one has to consider law of karma, too. Otherwise with enhanced

means we may get into even bigger trouble than we are in now. That's why

one shouldn't give matches to little kids.

> Synchronicities or meaningful coincidences suddenly makes sense, and
> everything in reality would have to be seen as a metaphor, for even
the
> most haphazard events would express some underlying symmetry.

Vedas claim there is no such thing as a 'chance'.

> as noted by
> Bail Hiley, a physicist at Birbeck College in London. Aspect's
findings
> "indicate that we must be prepared to consider radically new views of

> reality"

It's about time...

Jan

To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
[email protected]

Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to Yahoo | Mail, Weather, Search, Politics, News, Finance, Sports & Videos