From Ralph
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Ralph,
My hat is off to ya, buddy- you found it. Rod M. Cluff always felt that the opening was centered on 84.4 and 141E, mostly because of the experiences of Nansen- Nansen came up to about 79* N and 136* E before he started sliding laterally alongside and away from it. These coordinates are about where the darker area is in the middle of the map.
Thanks Ralph, in one fell stroke, you have become a special hollow Earth researcher. I don't know how you've been able to contain your excitement and contain yourself.
I will definitely put some of these up.
Thanks again,
Dharma/Dean
Ralph,
I got something up just for starters, with due credit.
http://skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index6.html
Dharma/Dean
Dean: I wanted to say that when you pan in and out on these photos it seems to be altering the tint. When I originally zoomed in at the site a photo that was lit up remained lit up or daylight. The ones that appeared to be night photos stayed night. This you could check when the South Pole is in daylight by panning to the other side. I really thought the daylight photos were the most important since they showed the land mass similar to the one in the 1923 Popular Science article about Commander Green. It showed lots of green land with mountains and a large channel of water. I also think the cloud formation that appears like a smoke ring in the photos is caused by warm air coming out of the interior world and mixing with the cooler air giving us this permanent fixation in the sky. Still we cannot see the interior sun ,but maybe it can be connected to the white dot in the center of the circle. I found a weather satellite photo that was in the USA News in 1992 and I believe it was the same as the one in Jan's book, only it was a weather photo. Rodney's photo was also a weater satellite photo, that has been circulated for years. I saw it in magazines saying it was the North Pole, and one saying it was the South Pole. Now we have a latitude and longitude. I mailed the copy of the weather photo from the USA to ISCE and it was shown in their video (Journey to the Hollow Earth.) I also sent them clips of Bunger's Oasis and others that weren't used in the film. Anyway, they listed me as a credit and I liked that very much. On this film they talked of reenacting Byrd's trip to the north pole, but I don't think it ever happened because of funding. Maybe the auroras can be traced to this same location. I have one film showing three mock suns. I did see what you mentioned about the earth getting flat. This is shown very clearly in the video (UFO:Top Seccret). This area was zoomed in on and we were never told what we were seeing, but it stuck out like a soar thumb. I had to say what the heck is that! I hope you can display the daylight photos also. I had this on my coputer for a couple weeks and didn't print it out until I got more ink. That's when I wrote you about them. Later I found the exact site again. I didn't know how to send them from my hard drive or I would have done it sooner. I very much liked all the other photos on your site and maybe with new satellite technology coming out we'll be able to zoom in on this area even closer. They were able to zoom in on Bill Gates back yard on the news. It said that we will all be able to do this in a couple years. From: Ralph Sunday, October 29, 2000 12:16 PM
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Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Ralph Found It
Ralph,
My hat is off to ya, buddy- you found it. Rod M. Cluff always felt that the opening was centered on 84.4 and 141E, mostly because of the experiences of Nansen- Nansen came up to about 79* N and 136* E before he started sliding laterally alongside and away from it. These coordinates are about where the darker area is in the middle of the map.
Thanks Ralph, in one fell stroke, you have become a special hollow Earth researcher. I don't know how you've been able to contain your excitement and contain yourself.
I will definitely put some of these up.
Thanks again,
Dharma/Dean
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Ralph wrote:
I really thought the daylight photos were the most important since they showed the land mass similar to the one in the 1923 Popular Science article about Commander Green. It showed lots of green land with mountains and a large channel of water.
Dean writes:
Ralph,
All that I came up with are the photos which I posted. Are you saying that you came up with a photo of a land mass near THAT point? I was very well coordinated in terms of position, I was using an atlas as I went. The land masses which I saw were all over towards Northern Canada.
Ralph Wrote:
I also think the cloud formation that appears like a smoke ring in the photos is caused by warm air coming out of the interior world and mixing with the cooler air giving us this permanent fixation in the sky.
Dean writes:
Ralph,
Help me to track down this photo showing a cloud ring: it is on Earth View, right?
I am going to keep fooling with it. I'll be in touch.
Dean
Still we cannot see the interior sun ,but maybe it can be connected to the white dot in the center of the circle. I found a weather satellite photo that was in the USA News in 1992 and I believe it was the same as the one in Jan's book, only it was a weather photo. Rodney's photo was also a weater satellite photo, that has been circulated for years. I saw it in magazines saying it was the North Pole, and one saying it was the South Pole. Now we have a latitude and longitude. I mailed the copy of the weather photo from the USA to ISCE and it was shown in their video (Journey to the Hollow Earth.) I also sent them clips of Bunger's Oasis and others that weren't used in the film. Anyway, they listed me as a credit and I liked that very much. On this film they talked of reenacting Byrd's trip to the north pole, but I don't think it ever happened because of funding. Maybe the auroras can be traced to this same location. I have one film showing three mock suns. I did see what you mentioned about the earth getting flat. This is shown very clearly in the video (UFO:Top Seccret). This area was zoomed in on and we were never told what we were seeing, but it stuck out like a soar thumb. I had to say what the heck is that! I hope you can display the daylight photos also. I had this on my coputer for a couple weeks and didn't print it out until I got more ink. That's when I wrote you about them. Later I found the exact site again. I didn't know how to send them from my hard drive or I would have done it sooner. I very much liked all the other photos on your site and maybe with new satellite technology coming out we'll be able to zoom in on this area even closer. They were able to zoom in on Bill Gates back yard on the news. It said that we will all be able to do this in a couple years. From: Ralph Sunday, October 29, 2000 12:16 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Ralph Found It
Ralph,
My hat is off to ya, buddy- you found it. Rod M. Cluff always felt that the opening was centered on 84.4 and 141E, mostly because of the experiences of Nansen- Nansen came up to about 79* N and 136* E before he started sliding laterally alongside and away from it. These coordinates are about where the darker area is in the middle of the map.
Thanks Ralph, in one fell stroke, you have become a special hollow Earth researcher. I don't know how you've been able to contain your excitement and contain yourself.
I will definitely put some of these up.
Thanks again,
Dharma/Dean
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I spoke with Mr. Cater again last night. I got some details from him about this person who accompanied Admiral Byrd on his Antartic expedition in 1948. Mr. Cater says that this expedition was secret and that during that year, Byrs's whereabouts were not clear.
The fellow's name was Jim Bowen. When he was supposed to be mustered out of the Navy, he was instructed to report to a room, where he was told that, due to his service record and recommendations, he had been chosen for a special mission. He was briefed ahead of time, along with about 100 other enlisted men, about what they were going to do- enter the hollow portion of the Earth through this opening.
He formed part of the main body of about 100 men who penetrated on foot well inside the entrance. He stayed as long as six months with Byrd, then accompanied one group back, even though another group stayed on with Admiral Byrd for anothe six months.
Jim Bowen got far enough inside that he affirmed that there was constant shining from the inner sun, though not far enough to see the inner solar disk. The ice had melted, and he said that their group encountered prehistoric creatures ( Olaf Jansen made a comment to this effect ). He confiemed lush vegetation and related to Mr. Cater that he couldn't see great distances because of constant cloud cover or the like- fog or whatever.
No exact location or coordinates were given out to the fellow, and it goes without saying that he had been sworn to secrecy. He didn't like the dishonesty of the situation and approached Mr. Cater because he had heard that Cater believed in the Hollow Earth Theory. They actually became friends and Mr. Cate mentioned that, in 1964, they took a trip together.
How about that?
I am still amazed that Joseph H. Cater is such a life long hollow Earther with so much to share, but that hardly any hollow Earthers on the net have heard of him or understand his soft particle physics, which certainly substatiates the hollow planet model.
Oh well- his book page is on every link of my site.
Dharma/Dean
List Members,
The Moon seems to cause the tidal bulge because the Moon is kind of overhead at high tide. Actually, the Moon does cause the tidal bulge, but the force which the Moon exerts on the oceans begins to build up when the Moon is still at a sidelong position in relation to the water on the horizon, from the perspective of the Moon. Allow me to quote Mr. Cate in this regard: " It is stated that high water is not caused by any lifting of the water against the force of the Earth’s gravity, but rather by horizontal, tractive forces unopposed by gravity." It is for this reason that the Moon's gravity can exert an influence on the oceans and produce the tides.
The tidal bulge on the opposite side of the Earth is a left-over oscillitory motion from when the Moon was exerting its influence on the other side.
The explanation which Mr. Cater offers to explain the tides ( which I don't think is original to him ) does away with the idea that gravity has unlimited penetration through the Earth globe. This spells the end of Newtonian gravity and opens the way for the Hollow Earth Theory, I might add.
Anyway, what I have done is post Mr. Cater's explanation of tides on my site underneath the article Clouds Don't Fall, which is an explanation of the cause of gravity:
http://skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index8.html
Dharma/Dean
Ralph,
Have you checked out Nansen's chart which I sent out earlier today.
It is as if the Fram slid around the underside of the opening.
Dharma/Dean
Members,
Is anyone having trouble accessing these images of the opening near Nansen?
http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index6.html
Somebody on the other list told me that all that they were getting was a black background.
Dharma/Dean
The pictures look fine to me. The problem must be with their individual browser.
Michael-Jon
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Michael-Jon,
That is what they concluded. An adjustment to brighter helped a few of them.
By the way, I put up a new satellite pic with some comments on that page.
No comments on Olaf Jansen?
Dharma/Dean
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The pictures look fine to me. The problem must be with their individual browser.
Michael-Jon
From page 73 of The Ultimate Reality by Mr. Cater:
" As mentioned previously, gravity effects are produced by a highly penetrating portion of the electromagnetic spectrum, which falls between the lowest fringes of the infrared and the higher frequencies of the radar band. It is on the order of about a trillion cycles per second. Most of the energy radiated by the sun is in the ultraviolet range and above. Only an infinitesimal part of it is in the lower frequencies which contain the gravity radiations. Therefore, the sun has a very low surface gravity as evident by the tidal effects it produces."
From page 71:
" Since the Moon is a greater factor in producing tides, the conclusion that the Moon has a greater surface gravity than the Sun is inescapable! To the orthodox mind, this produces insurmountable paradoxes. "
I came to understand Cater’s arguments in this regard maybe by last June, but the full consequences keep hitting me little by little. I am accustomed to arguing the point that the fact that clouds don’t fall proves that gravity is not determined by mass. At the same time, I have shied away from the above argument almost fearfully. That’s because my mind is still conditioned and it is still a bit shocking for me. Theoretically, I have accepted it, but I am just now embracing it.
These are the types of understandings which Cater imparts in his book, but this is just the tip of the iceberg. Cater explains the cause and nature of gravity, too. He explains that gravity is a matter of an electrostatic force, what the frequency range is, how it is caused, how it behaves and how far it penetrates into a planet.
This is extemely important for the hollow Earth theory as gravity makes it or breaks it. It is very difficult to establish the HET as long as we are attached to the idea that gravity is caused by the density of matte. How could deep subterranian caverns exist if this were the case? The weight above would cause them to collapse. The shell of the very Earth would tend to collapse inwards due to the weight of its own shell were gravity a function of density. It would be hard to explain how a person could stand on the inner surface of a hollow planet without falling inwards. How could mass attract inwards from both the outer surface as well as the inner surface? Why would a neutral zone be created if gravity were a function of mass? If gravity were a matter of density, then its force should not diminish as it penetrated through the Earth’s shell, but the behavior of tides shows that it does- the ocean water exhibits a different veocity than the Earth even though both are given the same acceleration. Two objects which receive the same acceleration must exhibit the same velocity. Even if gravity were a push-down force, what would it push against? The density of matter? Same problem from the opposite angle.
In my article Clouds Don’t Fall I have highlighted Cater’s concepts in this regard. I personally haven’t invented any theories, but I am one hell of a yeoman. Mr. Cater Cater explains the hows and whys in relation to all of the above questions.
Clouds Don’t Fall:
http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index8.html
Dharma/Dean
Ralph,
What a huge display from such a little opening- or is it little?
Dharma/Dean
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Hey,
Somebody pick up that Cate book from Jeff. If you are going to follow the
HET, you might as well be able to explain how in the hell a hollow planet
would work.
Dharma/Dean
Did I post this?
We all know fairly well that the warmer air experienced in the polar regions emanates from the polar openings. For example, here is something from Nansen’s log. Keep in mind that on the 17th of January, 1894, his position was 79* 41’ North Latitude, 135* 29’ of longitude East.
" Thursday, January 18th. The wind that began yesterday had gone on blowing from ... S.S.E., S.E., and E.S.E. [ But now he anticipates a change ] Let us hope it is not bringing a Northerly wind ... It is curious that there is almost always a rise of the thermometer with these stronger winds, today it rose to 13* F below zero ( - 25* C ). A south wind of less velocity generally lowers the temperature, and a moderate North wind raises it."
Sudden storms can emanate from the interior through the openings; indeed all wind and weathe patterns on the surface of the Earth are greatly influenced from the interior through the openings. Joseph H. Cater explains the initiating cause in The Ultimate Reality:
" The increased concentration of soft [ low frequency ] electrons radiate from the openings as a result of increased sunspot activity ...."
The first step to understanding is knowing that these low frequency electrons tend to follow the magnetic lines of force, and that air molecules follow the low frequency electrons. The magnetic lines of force don’t just englobe the Earth like a canopy- They follow routes close to the ground and cause the typical wind currents. This is because the low frequency electrons have a negative charge while the atoms which compose the molecules of air have a net, positive charge. So the air ends up being " dragged along " with the magnetic lines of force. The routes which the magnetic lines of force follow, and which establish the wind patterns, are not perceived by typical magnetometers because such magnetic lines are generated by low frequency electrostatic charges imbued within the Earth’s surface.
When, due to the sunspot activity mentioned above, the low frequency electrons build up and " spurt out " of the opening, storms involving warmer air occur, over and above the typical wind patterns, and simply confound observers. It is not only a matter of understanding wherefrom the warmer air originates, but how, and this understanding is contained in Joseph H. Cater’s hollow Earth model. Here is something for reference from Chapter 20 of The Ultimate Reality:
" Magnetometers may not show great deviations in the Earth’s field in these regions, because they only measure the fields produced by hard electrons [ the recognised electrons in the ultrahigh frequency range of gamma rays ]. The majority of the particles ejected at these nodes will probably be the more stable soft electrons, which do not readily disintegrate to release the hard electrons contained inside. Sufficient groundwork has now been laid to explain the prevailing atmospheric winds, which are broken into six discrete bands from the North to the South Pole.
Since the Earth has polar egresses, there should be a rapid flow of electrons of all kinds from both poles, in addition to those particles ejected from the nodal areas. Although the magnetic flow is into the North polar magnetic region, particles ejected out of the Northern egress tend to spread out and flow in a Southerly direction. The Coriolis effect then comes into play as particles move toward the South. This causes and additional accelerating force on the particles relative to the Earth’s surface because the rotational velocity of the Earth increases as one moves towards the Equator. The flow of the particles will be in a Southwesterly direction since the Earth’s direction is towards the East. This produces a tendency for the Earth to move away from the particles, thus giving them a motion relative to the surface and toward the West. The flow will tend to carry ionized air molecules with it, creating the belt of Westerly winds in the higher Northern latitudes.
The six prevailing wind belts suggest the existence of two magnetic nodal lines between the North and South magnetic poles."
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Members,
Cater was telling me about a guy named Bill Higden, too. He was a pilot in
the Army Air Corp, and after WWII, he participated in aerial mapping over
the Northern Canadian coast. He mentioned to Cate that they noticed that the
sun was sitting much lower than it should have been in relation to the
horizon.
He also mentioned to Cater that when the mapping was finished, it wouldn't
fit on a spherical globe. In other words, the curvature does flatten at the
poles.
Dharma/Dean
Members,
The magnetic pole refers to the point, around the outer rim of the opening,
at which the compass points vertically downward. Older writers imagined that
this basically marked the opening itself, i.e., the neck of the opening. But
modern satellite photos show that it does not, unless we are REALLY being
hoodwinked!
Anyway, think about this: Cater tells us that the surface strata of the
Earth is imbued with a low frequency, negative electrostatic charge. At the
same time, remember that when magnetic force and a charge come into contact
with each other, in a perpendicular fashion, a lateral force is exerted.
Maybe as the magnetic lines of force start converging on the hole, they
experience attraction from the charge in the surface and experience a
lateral movement, i.e., they nose-dive into the Earth a little before they
reach the actual hole.
This solves a huge problem with the Hollow Earth Theory ( HET ) because, in
the past, writers figures that the circular path along which the magnetic
lines of force dipped down 90* was simply " IT, " the lateral side of the
opening, but it isn't so simple as that.
Even so, many hollow Earthers have insisted on the idea and alienated the
general public before the theory even had a chance.
This is simply another example of how we work ourselves into a corner if we
don't take help of the soft particle physics of Joseph H. Cater. Mainstream
physics only explains mainstream phenomena, and you can't use mainstream
physics to explain the HET because it just doesn't fit. For example, the
existence of an inner sun and gravity within the hollow Earth model can
only be explained by low frequency particles.
Dharma/Dean
Dharma/Dean
Members,
The magnetic pole migrates in a curcle around the geographic pole of the
Earth. The diameter is about 2,000 miles. In the middle ages, the pole was
in the North of Siberia, in the 1600s, to the East of Greenland, and right
now on one of the Northern islands above Canada. From the circle which it
traces ( over time ) the Earth begins to curve inwards and the opening
technically starts. We can call this circle the rim of the opening.
Within the rim of the opening, just above the New Siberian Islands, is the
neck of the opening. It is offset from the Pole.
Actually, the magnetic lines of force constantly overflow this magnetic
circle. From far away, in the lower latitudes, the compass seems to point to
one specific point which is the strongest point along the circle, and this
point is callled the magnetic pole. But close up to the circle, the compass
points in all directions and becomes " confused." Passing within the circle,
the compass points backwards towards the rim of the circle.
The attached drawing is from the book of Sadek Adam entitled " Hollow Earth
Authentic," available through Health Research.
Dharma/Dean