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Friends,

Here is another excellent web page at Dean's exceptional site:

http://skywebsite.com/hollow/realmarshollowmars/

Back in 1999, I pointed out these same "polar craters" at BOTH
Martian poles, in a defunct PDF e-zine called Principium
Paradoxi. What are the odds of a nearly-perfectly round "crater"
or "ring" of mountains at both of the opposite poles on the same
planet?

Interesting, our own Moon has a similar structural anomaly at its
South Pole, where the "water ice" discovered by Clementine is.

I strongly recommend checking out all of the links under this site
of Dean's, as well as the current issue of FATE, which has a
great deal of imagery from NASA and JPL. One of these images
shows a very wet, muddy waterhole or sump on the Martian
surface, taken by a landed craft from one of the JPL missions.

Hmmm, centrifugal force.....Hot planetary plasma spinning,
heavier debris flying outward, eventually captured by gravitation,
tug-of-war between the two forces....Shell slowly forming over
vast spans of time....Hmmm, interesting concept for planetary
structure.....Geodes, anyone?

--Mike

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From: MOTTIMORPH@....
Date: Fri Jun 8, 2001 2:52 am
Subject: Another Excellent web page

Interesting, our own Moon has a similar structural anomaly at its
South Pole, where the "water ice" discovered by Clementine is.

Mike Mott,

About that " water ice " at the Moon's South Pole- The name of the crater is
Malapert. It "sees " with radar. It could be that there is an opening at the
Moon's Southern opening, and that the nature of the energies emanating it
give the impression of some smooth type of reflection, i.e., water or ice.

Interesting, huh? I mention malapert on my Moon site:
http://skywebsite.com/hollow/realmoonhollowmoon/

Well, so far hazel is the only one to dfall for " The Martian." She went
clicking on it thinking it was the real Mc Coy. When people don't laugh at
my jokes I get really hurt.

# ; ^ )

Dharma/Dean

Mike, Yes I'll have some geodes, please. Hazel

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From: MOTTIMORPH@....
Date: Fri Jun 8, 2001 2:52 am
Subject: Another Excellent web page

Friends,

Here is another excellent web page at Dean's exceptional site:

http://skywebsite.com/hollow/realmarshollowmars/

Back in 1999, I pointed out these same "polar craters" at BOTH
Martian poles, in a defunct PDF e-zine called Principium
Paradoxi. What are the odds of a nearly-perfectly round "crater"
or "ring" of mountains at both of the opposite poles on the same
planet?

Interesting, our own Moon has a similar structural anomaly at its
South Pole, where the "water ice" discovered by Clementine is.

I strongly recommend checking out all of the links under this site
of Dean's, as well as the current issue of FATE, which has a
great deal of imagery from NASA and JPL. One of these images
shows a very wet, muddy waterhole or sump on the Martian
surface, taken by a landed craft from one of the JPL missions.

Hmmm, centrifugal force.....Hot planetary plasma spinning,
heavier debris flying outward, eventually captured by gravitation,
tug-of-war between the two forces....Shell slowly forming over
vast spans of time....Hmmm, interesting concept for planetary
structure.....Geodes, anyone?

--Mike

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Dean, If Martians are humans and Earthlings are humans, how could you tell
which was a sketch of who? But methinks you're laughing at me....no matter,
I'm glad to be the brunt of your jokes, ridicule is good sign that I may be
right. LOL. It was a nice drawing though.Hazel

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean De Lucia" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 10:52 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Crosspost on Crater from FR list

> Interesting, our own Moon has a similar structural anomaly at its
> South Pole, where the "water ice" discovered by Clementine is.

Mike Mott,

About that " water ice " at the Moon's South Pole- The name of the crater

is

Malapert. It "sees " with radar. It could be that there is an opening at

the

Moon's Southern opening, and that the nature of the energies emanating it
give the impression of some smooth type of reflection, i.e., water or ice.

Interesting, huh? I mention malapert on my Moon site:
http://skywebsite.com/hollow/realmoonhollowmoon/

Well, so far hazel is the only one to dfall for " The Martian." She went
clicking on it thinking it was the real Mc Coy. When people don't laugh at
my jokes I get really hurt.

# ; ^ )

Dharma/Dean

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Dean, If Martians are humans and Earthlings are humans, how could you tell
which was a sketch of who? But methinks you're laughing at me....no

matter,

I'm glad to be the brunt of your jokes, ridicule is good sign that I may

be

right. LOL. It was a nice drawing though.Hazel

Hazel,

I am laughing with you, not at you. I would never do that.

You may not be able to tell the difference if the members from other planets
mixed with us. I imagine that in the past there has been exchange. Who knows
where the redheads originally came from. ( monkeys? )

I am thinking that you may not know about My Favorite Martian. There used to
be a television comedy in the sixties about a Martian who landed and took up
residence with Bill Bixby, who later on did The Incredible Hulk, until he
got his space ship fixed. The actor who portrayed the Martian was Ray
Walston. That drawing used to appear at the end of every show while they did
the credits. Americans of my generation would immediately recognize who My
Favorite Martian was, and that drawing. He used to raise his antennae then
go invisible, he could levitate things with his fingers and read minds.

http://skywebsite.com/hollow/realmarshollowmars/id16.html

Dharma/Dean

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--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., "Dean De Lucia" <0108@t...> wrote:
\

You may not be able to tell the difference if the members from

other planets

mixed with us. I imagine that in the past there has been

exchange. Who knows

where the redheads originally came from. ( monkeys? )

A few weeks ago someone posted a URL to the FR list, which
indicated that red hair and freckles, etc, may be the last evidence
of inbreeding between two specie of humanity, and gradual
assimilation of one group into the larger, more successful
group. The red-haired group that was assimilated? The
Neanderthals.

As a person of Northern and Western European descent, it does
not offend me to consider that this hybridization between
Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal may have occurred in the distant
past. Hybrid vigor is a well-established scientific reality.

--Mike

Mike (comment from Dick Fojut) about HYBRIDS. My wife reminded me that some theorize that the Neanderthals were genetic throwbacks, from society... cast out, left to fend for themselves in the "wilderness."
     We knew a gal who had been a young nurse in special German "asylums" during world war 2. She denied that Germany conducted an extermination campaign on children and adults who were genetic throwbacks, with strange appendages, etc. (Use your imaginations.) She cared for these people all through the war.
      Possibly some ancient people in Europe were not as kind to their physical mutants, casting them out - where their remains eventually got classified by modern diggers as "Neanderthals." About Neanderthals, I've read past writers who mockingly pointed out that if you walk the streets of New York, you can spot several passersby who look like they could be Neanderthals!

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--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., "Dean De Lucia" <0108@t...> wrote:
\

You may not be able to tell the difference if the members from

other planets

mixed with us. I imagine that in the past there has been

exchange. Who knows

where the redheads originally came from. ( monkeys? )

A few weeks ago someone posted a URL to the FR list, which
indicated that red hair and freckles, etc, may be the last evidence
of inbreeding between two specie of humanity, and gradual
assimilation of one group into the larger, more successful
group. The red-haired group that was assimilated? The
Neanderthals.

As a person of Northern and Western European descent, it does
not offend me to consider that this hybridization between
Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal may have occurred in the distant
past. Hybrid vigor is a well-established scientific reality.

--Mike

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Members,

Here is a flat picture of Percival Lowell's own Mars globe. The man was no
fool, and he had a tremendous telescope to work with. The canal's exist.

Further evidence in the form of comment's by Daniel Ross ( posted before )
http://skywebsite.com/hollow/realmarshollowmars/id13.html

Dharma/Dean

--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., Dick Fojut <dfgraphics@g...> wrote:

     We knew a gal who had been a young nurse in special

German

"asylums" during world war 2. She denied that Germany

conducted an

extermination campaign on children and adults who were

genetic

throwbacks, with strange appendages, etc. (Use your

imaginations.)

She cared for these people all through the war.

Dick, this is very interesting and I'd like to learn more about it.
This ties right in with some of my other research....Though I
would speculate that these people may have been exhibiting
characteristics inherited from somewhere else, perhaps even
several generations removed....

Have you read my piece "Demonseed?"

Any additional info on these unfortunates would be appreciated.

Thanks

--Mike

--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., MOTTIMORPH@E... wrote:

Have you read my piece "Demonseed?"

Dick, here's the URL:

www.davidicke.net/emagazine/vol21/articles/demonseed.html

This ties in with some of the research in CCCC.

--Mike

--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., Dick Fojut <dfgraphics@g...> wrote:

      We knew a gal who had been a young nurse in special

German

"asylums" during world war 2. She denied that Germany

conducted an

extermination campaign on children and adults who were

genetic

throwbacks, with strange appendages, etc. (Use your

imaginations.)

She cared for these people all through the war.

Dick, this is very interesting and I'd like to learn more about it. This ties right in with some of my other research....Though I
would speculate that these people may have been exhibiting
characteristics inherited from somewhere else, perhaps even
several generations removed....

Have you read my piece "Demonseed?"

Any additional info on these unfortunates would be appreciated.

Thanks

--Mike (from Dick Fojut)...

The former German nurse moved away years back, but I'll ask my wife for any further details she remembers and let you know. Sorry, haven't read your "Demonseed." How can I get it? - Dick

--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., MOTTIMORPH@E... wrote:

Have you read my piece "Demonseed?"

Dick, here's the URL:

www.davidicke.net/emagazine/vol21/articles/demonseed.html

This ties in with some of the research in CCCC.

--Mike

Mike... Thanks. Have book marked on Icke's site and will read ASAP.
- Dick

Dear Dick, If you take one of George Adamski, Howard Menger, Enrique
Castillo, Villas Boas or Billy Meier's 'Venusians,' ('Pleiadians')
described as tall, perfect, without blemish, long blone hair and slender
tapering fingers, with super-intelligence, and you mate him with a pretty
female hominid, their offspring would homo sapiens. Some having more
ape-woman genes, are coarser and hairier, some having more Pleiadian
characteristics would be less hairy and fairer. But what would they do with
this evolutionary leap? Develop more sophisticated ways of clubbing each
other. Which part of the gene-pool is predominant in you?

Neanderthal is bigfoot, driven to the margins of society by competition and
persecution.They shoot bigfeet, don't they? Haze

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Fojut" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:33 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Crosspost on Crater from FR list

     Mike (comment from Dick Fojut) about HYBRIDS. My wife reminded me
that some theorize that the Neanderthals were genetic throwbacks,
from society... cast out, left to fend for themselves in the
"wilderness."
     We knew a gal who had been a young nurse in special German
"asylums" during world war 2. She denied that Germany conducted an
extermination campaign on children and adults who were genetic
throwbacks, with strange appendages, etc. (Use your imaginations.)
She cared for these people all through the war.
      Possibly some ancient people in Europe were not as kind to their
physical mutants, casting them out - where their remains eventually
got classified by modern diggers as "Neanderthals." About
Neanderthals, I've read past writers who mockingly pointed out that
if you walk the streets of New York, you can spot several passersby
who look like they could be Neanderthals!

>--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., "Dean De Lucia" <0108@t...> wrote:
>\
>>
>> You may not be able to tell the difference if the members from
>other planets
>> mixed with us. I imagine that in the past there has been
>exchange. Who knows
>> where the redheads originally came from. ( monkeys? )
>>
>
>A few weeks ago someone posted a URL to the FR list, which
>indicated that red hair and freckles, etc, may be the last evidence
>of inbreeding between two specie of humanity, and gradual
>assimilation of one group into the larger, more successful
>group. The red-haired group that was assimilated? The
>Neanderthals.
>
>As a person of Northern and Western European descent, it does
>not offend me to consider that this hybridization between
>Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal may have occurred in the distant
>past. Hybrid vigor is a well-established scientific reality.
>
>--Mike
>
>
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Dear Dick, If you take one of George Adamski, Howard Menger, Enrique
Castillo, Villas Boas or Billy Meier's 'Venusians,' ('Pleiadians')
described as tall, perfect, without blemish, long blone hair and slender
tapering fingers, with super-intelligence, and you mate him with a pretty
female hominid, their offspring would homo sapiens. Some having more
ape-woman genes, are coarser and hairier, some having more Pleiadian
characteristics would be less hairy and fairer. But what would they do with
this evolutionary leap? Develop more sophisticated ways of clubbing each
other. Which part of the gene-pool is predominant in you?

     Hazel... Don't ask. You've gotten me so concerned I'm afraid to look in the mirror for what I may now perceive! May need to shave in the dark for awhile till I've forgotten your suggestion.
- Dick

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Neanderthal is bigfoot, driven to the margins of society by competition and
persecution.They shoot bigfeet, don't they? Haze

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dick Fojut" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:33 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Crosspost on Crater from FR list

      Mike (comment from Dick Fojut) about HYBRIDS. My wife reminded me
that some theorize that the Neanderthals were genetic throwbacks,
from society... cast out, left to fend for themselves in the
"wilderness."
      We knew a gal who had been a young nurse in special German
"asylums" during world war 2. She denied that Germany conducted an
extermination campaign on children and adults who were genetic
throwbacks, with strange appendages, etc. (Use your imaginations.)
She cared for these people all through the war.
       Possibly some ancient people in Europe were not as kind to their
physical mutants, casting them out - where their remains eventually
got classified by modern diggers as "Neanderthals." About
Neanderthals, I've read past writers who mockingly pointed out that
if you walk the streets of New York, you can spot several passersby
who look like they could be Neanderthals!

>--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., "Dean De Lucia" <0108@t...> wrote:
>\
>>
>> You may not be able to tell the difference if the members from
>other planets
>> mixed with us. I imagine that in the past there has been
>exchange. Who knows
>> where the redheads originally came from. ( monkeys? )
>>
>
>A few weeks ago someone posted a URL to the FR list, which
>indicated that red hair and freckles, etc, may be the last evidence
>of inbreeding between two specie of humanity, and gradual
>assimilation of one group into the larger, more successful
>group. The red-haired group that was assimilated? The
>Neanderthals.
>
>As a person of Northern and Western European descent, it does
>not offend me to consider that this hybridization between
>Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal may have occurred in the distant
>past. Hybrid vigor is a well-established scientific reality.
>
>--Mike
>
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Hazel... Don't ask. You've gotten me so concerned I'm afraid to
look in the mirror for what I may now perceive! May need to shave in
the dark for awhile till I've forgotten your suggestion.
- Dick
---------------------------

LOL!...Don't worry, men are from Mars and women are from Venus. Hazel.

>Neanderthal is bigfoot, driven to the margins of society by competition

and

>persecution.They shoot bigfeet, don't they? Haze
>
>
>From: "Dick Fojut" <[email protected]>
>To: <[email protected]>
>Sent: Friday, June 08, 2001 7:33 PM
>Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Crosspost on Crater from FR list
>
>
>> Mike (comment from Dick Fojut) about HYBRIDS. My wife reminded me
>> that some theorize that the Neanderthals were genetic throwbacks,
>> from society... cast out, left to fend for themselves in the
>> "wilderness."
>> We knew a gal who had been a young nurse in special German
>> "asylums" during world war 2. She denied that Germany conducted an
>> extermination campaign on children and adults who were genetic
>> throwbacks, with strange appendages, etc. (Use your imaginations.)
>> She cared for these people all through the war.
>> Possibly some ancient people in Europe were not as kind to their
>> physical mutants, casting them out - where their remains eventually
>> got classified by modern diggers as "Neanderthals." About
>> Neanderthals, I've read past writers who mockingly pointed out that
>> if you walk the streets of New York, you can spot several passersby
>> who look like they could be Neanderthals!
>>
>>
>> >--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., "Dean De Lucia" <0108@t...> wrote:
>> >\
>> >>
>> >> You may not be able to tell the difference if the members from
>> >other planets
>> >> mixed with us. I imagine that in the past there has been
>> >exchange. Who knows
>> >> where the redheads originally came from. ( monkeys? )
>> >>
>> >
>> >A few weeks ago someone posted a URL to the FR list, which
>> >indicated that red hair and freckles, etc, may be the last evidence
>> >of inbreeding between two specie of humanity, and gradual
>> >assimilation of one group into the larger, more successful
>> >group. The red-haired group that was assimilated? The
>> >Neanderthals.
>> >
>> >As a person of Northern and Western European descent, it does
>> >not offend me to consider that this hybridization between
>> >Cro-Magnon and Neanderthal may have occurred in the distant
>> >past. Hybrid vigor is a well-established scientific reality.
>> >
>> >--Mike
>> >
>> >
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Dean, Martian information for you and Leslee;

THE ANGRY RED PLANET DEPARTMENT -

Martian Flares Sighted - Rick Fienberg - Sky & Telescope

In the latest issue of Sky & Telescope (pages 115 to 123), Thomas Dobbins
and William Sheehan discussed rare historical observations of bright,
star-like flares from certain regions on the planet Mars. They suggested
that the flares might be caused by specular reflections of sunlight off
water-ice crystals in surface frosts or atmospheric clouds, specifically
at times when the sub-Sun and sub-Earth points were nearly coincident and
near the planet's central meridian (the imaginary line running down the
center of the visible disk from pole to pole).

Based on their analysis, Dobbins and Sheehan predicted that flares like
those last reported in 1958 might erupt this week in Edom Promontorium,
near the Martian equator at longitude 345 degrees. Dobbins organized an
expedition to the Florida Keys, where Mars would ride high in the south
under exceptionally steady skies. Expedition members observed the planet
using a variety of telescopes nightly beginning June 3rd. No flares were
seen for several nights. But on June 7th, beginning around 06:40 UT (2:40
Eastern daylight time), about 80 minutes before Edom crossed the central
meridian, the team observed a series of brightenings. Each lasted perhaps
3 to 5 seconds; they occurred sporadically over the next 90 minutes or so,
until clouds ended the observations.

At times Edom appeared to pulse with a period of 10 to 15 seconds for a
minute or two. The flares were seen visually at about 300 power through
two homemade 6-inch (15-centimeter) Newtonian reflectors (one f/6, the
other f/8) by Dobbins, Donald Parker, Gary Seronik, Rick Fienberg, and
David Moore and were recorded on video at 1,400 power through a Meade
12-inch (30-cm) Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope by Parker and Tippy D'Auria.
Visually,the flares seemed to cut the dark linear feature Sinus Sabaeus
nearly in two.

Mars observers in North America, especially the western half, are
encouraged to observe the planet visually and to record it on video over
the next two or three nights, when conditions will continue to favor
flares in Edom. Observing reports -- including your location, Universal
date and time, telescope/equipment description, sky conditions, and any
other relevant details -- should be sent to the Mars sections of the
Association of Lunar and Planetary Observers
(http://www.lpl.arizona.edu/alpo/) and British Astronomical Association
(http://www.ast.cam.ac.uk/~baa/jupiter/index.html),
as well as the International Mars Watch
(http://elvis.rowan.edu/marswatch).

Source: Mitch Battros Producer - Earth Changes TV
http://www.earthchangesTV.com

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dean De Lucia" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 8:19 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Percival Lowell's Globe

Members,

Here is a flat picture of Percival Lowell's own Mars globe. The man was

no

fool, and he had a tremendous telescope to work with. The canal's exist.

Further evidence in the form of comment's by Daniel Ross ( posted before )
http://skywebsite.com/hollow/realmarshollowmars/id13.html

Dharma/Dean

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