Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012

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1

Group,

Does anyone remember sending in a post
with a link about the Moon being covered
with silica/silicon? If you did send it can
you please resend it? I think this may lend
credence, once again, that the Vedas make
the mark, or withstand the test of time. Srila
Prabhupada mentions that the Moon has its
own effulgence, and I always believed that,
but struggled with it at some points, as to
how that could be possible, but now it makes
sense to me, i.e., SILICA/SILICONE!!!

AGTSP!

Mike, NYC

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

2

Hi Mike

It wasn't me, but I remember seeing the post you are referring to. I did a little digging via Google and found this which say 21% of the lunar surface is silicon:

http://www.moonsociety.org/projects/adb/wip/ore_extraction.htmPotential Methods of Ore Extraction on the Lunar
Surface
By Alexander M. Lapides
Abstract:
1. Introduction
Since the
beginning of time, the moon has been a thing of wonderment to humans, a symbol
of the unknown and larger universe. Now more than ever, a push has been made to
commercialize the moon, with entrepreneurs and risk-takers investing billions in
the newest high-tech equipment needed to reach the moon and harvest its natural
resources. The Artemis Society, an international association, has been
formulating its Artemis Project for several years, with the hope that one day,
science and commercialization will be the primary goals of the first
privately-supported lunar land-base and tourist destination. Although one goal
of the project will be the development of a commercialized environment on the
moon, science offers equally attractive objectives. For instance, the proposed
production of solar cells on the moon would provide a solution to the energy
crisis on earth for years to come. However, solar cells, rockets, and commercial
environments all need raw chemicals in order to function. Therefore, it is
necessary to examine the various methods of ore extraction which can take place
on the moon. This report will focus on specific types of extractive processes,
including electrometallurgy, chemical reactions, and novel concepts proposed by
scientists. Then, based on the findings, a brief solution will be suggested.
2. Electrometallurgy
2.1: Definition
One of the
potential extraction techniques is electrometallurgy. Although the term
electrometallurgy implies that only metals will be extracted from lunar soil,
this is not the case. One of the main chemicals being targeted for ore
extraction and processing is liquid and gaseous oxygen, because of its use in
rocket fuels and simple respiration. Electrometallurgy, which is defined as
using electricity and electrolysis in order to separate a compound into its
component elements or molecules or to reduce a metallic compound into simply the
metal itself, has great potential on the moon because of its lack simplicity,
dual extraction-purification purposes, and tested reliability.
2.2: Specific Uses in Artemis
2.2.1: Magma Electrolysis
In the
process of magma electrolysis, lunar soil (also known as regolith) is collected,
heated to super-hot temperatures using concentrated sunlight, which can reach
5500 degrees Celsius, and is, essentially, melted. Then, the liquid rock is
subjected to simple electrolysis, which separates the oxygen (which is the most
abundant element in the lunar crust) from the metallic elements with which it
commonly bonds, including magnesium, aluminum, calcium, iron, and silicates. One
the problems of this process is that one of the electrodes in the electrolysis
process would need to be made (or at least coated) with platinum, because of the
element’s inertness in reactions (the other electrode could be made from steel).
Also, platinum is corroded without much difficulty in the presence of silicates,
one of the products of the electrolysis. Therefore, this type of extraction
might prove costly if the electrodes need to be continually replaced. However,
this process has many positive aspects too. A small amount of equipment is
involved and the process itself is very simple. Also, the quantity of elements
yielded could make this a promising universal (no pun intended) extraction
technique.1
2.2.2: Silicate Minerals
One of the
main goals of the Artemis Project is to mine enough silicon on the moon (Silicon
comprises 21% of the lunar soil.) to be able to produce enough solar panels to,
more or less, solve the energy crisis on Earth. Therefore, it is necessary to
mine silicon in a reliable and cost-effective way. One proposed method is to use
electrolysis on silicate minerals (such as
CaAl2­­-Si4O8) to extract the silicon, oxygen,
and, theoretically, the other elements involved as well. Though few experiments
have been run, this method requires little energy, no refinement, no reactants,
little equipment, and is not complex in nature. A variation on this is called
flux silicate mineral processing. In essence, it’s the same thing, except one
must first reduce the CaAl2­­-Si4O8 with
aluminum. This immediately yields solid silicon for the production of solar
cells. The other end products are calcium oxide (CaO) and aluminum oxide
(Al2O3). Besides the immediate production of solid
silicon, the flux process also requires less energy than the normal method, has
less corrosion involved, and has higher conductivity in the electrodes. The
downside to this method (as with the magma electrolysis) is that the life of the
electrodes is unknown and could come at a cost that might jeopardize this method
of extraction. The main obstacle still to overcome is finding a cheap, yet
reliable electrode for the electrolysis process.

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________________________________
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012 5:46 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012
  

Group,

Does anyone remember sending in a post
with a link about the Moon being covered
with silica/silicon? If you did send it can
you please resend it? I think this may lend
credence, once again, that the Vedas make
the mark, or withstand the test of time. Srila
Prabhupada mentions that the Moon has its
own effulgence, and I always believed that,
but struggled with it at some points, as to
how that could be possible, but now it makes
sense to me, i.e., SILICA/SILICONE!!!

AGTSP!

Mike, NYC

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Hi Mike, is this the post you are looking for?

Sunlight reveals the Moon is made of glass?

What I find interesting, is that the color of the Moon is not seen if you get
close to the surface, but only at the distance. And the more light from the sun,
the more the colors intensify, making it coming alive in our eyes. It's like the
Moon would be made by porcelain, or it's like looking at a radiography.
In the images by my 8 inch telescope, the Moon is not with increased colours at
all, just with gamma decreased because the Moon was very bright.

http://lupuvictor.blogspot.ro/2012/07/sunlight-reveals-moon-is-made-of-glass.htm\\
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--- In [email protected], mm48ny@... wrote:

Group,

Does anyone remember sending in a post
with a link about the Moon being covered
with silica/silicon? If you did send it can
you please resend it? I think this may lend
credence, once again, that the Vedas make
the mark, or withstand the test of time. Srila
Prabhupada mentions that the Moon has its
own effulgence, and I always believed that,
but struggled with it at some points, as to
how that could be possible, but now it makes
sense to me, i.e., SILICA/SILICONE!!!

AGTSP!

Mike, NYC

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

4

People,

A little while ago we saw this video from Japan showing crystaline structures all over the surface of the Moon:

As far back as the late 90s Hoagland was coming out saying that there were gigantic crystaline structures on the Moon, as much as a few miles high.

Dean

···

From: Christine Heffernan
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012

Hi Mike

It wasn't me, but I remember seeing the post you are referring to. I did a little digging via Google and found this which say 21% of the lunar surface is silicon:

http://www.moonsociety.org/projects/adb/wip/ore_extraction.htmPotential Methods of Ore Extraction on the Lunar
Surface
By Alexander M. Lapides
Abstract:
1. Introduction
Since the
beginning of time, the moon has been a thing of wonderment to humans, a symbol
of the unknown and larger universe. Now more than ever, a push has been made to
commercialize the moon, with entrepreneurs and risk-takers investing billions in
the newest high-tech equipment needed to reach the moon and harvest its natural
resources. The Artemis Society, an international association, has been
formulating its Artemis Project for several years, with the hope that one day,
science and commercialization will be the primary goals of the first
privately-supported lunar land-base and tourist destination. Although one goal
of the project will be the development of a commercialized environment on the
moon, science offers equally attractive objectives. For instance, the proposed
production of solar cells on the moon would provide a solution to the energy
crisis on earth for years to come. However, solar cells, rockets, and commercial
environments all need raw chemicals in order to function. Therefore, it is
necessary to examine the various methods of ore extraction which can take place
on the moon. This report will focus on specific types of extractive processes,
including electrometallurgy, chemical reactions, and novel concepts proposed by
scientists. Then, based on the findings, a brief solution will be suggested.
2. Electrometallurgy
2.1: Definition
One of the
potential extraction techniques is electrometallurgy. Although the term
electrometallurgy implies that only metals will be extracted from lunar soil,
this is not the case. One of the main chemicals being targeted for ore
extraction and processing is liquid and gaseous oxygen, because of its use in
rocket fuels and simple respiration. Electrometallurgy, which is defined as
using electricity and electrolysis in order to separate a compound into its
component elements or molecules or to reduce a metallic compound into simply the
metal itself, has great potential on the moon because of its lack simplicity,
dual extraction-purification purposes, and tested reliability.
2.2: Specific Uses in Artemis
2.2.1: Magma Electrolysis
In the
process of magma electrolysis, lunar soil (also known as regolith) is collected,
heated to super-hot temperatures using concentrated sunlight, which can reach
5500 degrees Celsius, and is, essentially, melted. Then, the liquid rock is
subjected to simple electrolysis, which separates the oxygen (which is the most
abundant element in the lunar crust) from the metallic elements with which it
commonly bonds, including magnesium, aluminum, calcium, iron, and silicates. One
the problems of this process is that one of the electrodes in the electrolysis
process would need to be made (or at least coated) with platinum, because of the
element’s inertness in reactions (the other electrode could be made from steel).
Also, platinum is corroded without much difficulty in the presence of silicates,
one of the products of the electrolysis. Therefore, this type of extraction
might prove costly if the electrodes need to be continually replaced. However,
this process has many positive aspects too. A small amount of equipment is
involved and the process itself is very simple. Also, the quantity of elements
yielded could make this a promising universal (no pun intended) extraction
technique.1
2.2.2: Silicate Minerals
One of the
main goals of the Artemis Project is to mine enough silicon on the moon (Silicon
comprises 21% of the lunar soil.) to be able to produce enough solar panels to,
more or less, solve the energy crisis on Earth. Therefore, it is necessary to
mine silicon in a reliable and cost-effective way. One proposed method is to use
electrolysis on silicate minerals (such as
CaAl2­­-Si4O8) to extract the silicon, oxygen,
and, theoretically, the other elements involved as well. Though few experiments
have been run, this method requires little energy, no refinement, no reactants,
little equipment, and is not complex in nature. A variation on this is called
flux silicate mineral processing. In essence, it’s the same thing, except one
must first reduce the CaAl2­­-Si4O8 with
aluminum. This immediately yields solid silicon for the production of solar
cells. The other end products are calcium oxide (CaO) and aluminum oxide
(Al2O3). Besides the immediate production of solid
silicon, the flux process also requires less energy than the normal method, has
less corrosion involved, and has higher conductivity in the electrodes. The
downside to this method (as with the magma electrolysis) is that the life of the
electrodes is unknown and could come at a cost that might jeopardize this method
of extraction. The main obstacle still to overcome is finding a cheap, yet
reliable electrode for the electrolysis process.

________________________________
From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012 5:46 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012

Group,

Does anyone remember sending in a post
with a link about the Moon being covered
with silica/silicon? If you did send it can
you please resend it? I think this may lend
credence, once again, that the Vedas make
the mark, or withstand the test of time. Srila
Prabhupada mentions that the Moon has its
own effulgence, and I always believed that,
but struggled with it at some points, as to
how that could be possible, but now it makes
sense to me, i.e., SILICA/SILICONE!!!

AGTSP!

Mike, NYC

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Dean-

I was taken in by Hoagland's speculation about glass structures on the moon for quite a while, but later information from Jay Weidner in his documentary "Kubrick's Odyssey" convinced me that Weidner's interpretation made a lot more sense. The artifacts that Hoagland discovered are due to the fact that the Apollo moon shots that were shown to the public were all made by Stanley Kubrick here on Earth using what was then state-of-the-art film technology called "front screen projection". The prism-like light refractions in the background of the Apollo shots are artifacts of that technology. See http://www.reddirtreport.com/Story.aspx/18536 for a good review of the documentary. Or watch the whole thing here: http://vimeo.com/34039692

regards,
Bob

···

--- In [email protected], "silopanna" <silopanna@...> wrote:

People,

A little while ago we saw this video from Japan showing crystaline structures all over the surface of the Moon:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KI0VIUVkSg

As far back as the late 90s Hoagland was coming out saying that there were gigantic crystaline structures on the Moon, as much as a few miles high.

Dean

From: Christine Heffernan
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:58 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012

Hi Mike

It wasn't me, but I remember seeing the post you are referring to. I did a little digging via Google and found this which say 21% of the lunar surface is silicon:

http://www.moonsociety.org/projects/adb/wip/ore_extraction.htmPotential Methods of Ore Extraction on the Lunar
Surface
By Alexander M. Lapides
Abstract:
1. Introduction
Since the
beginning of time, the moon has been a thing of wonderment to humans, a symbol
of the unknown and larger universe. Now more than ever, a push has been made to
commercialize the moon, with entrepreneurs and risk-takers investing billions in
the newest high-tech equipment needed to reach the moon and harvest its natural
resources. The Artemis Society, an international association, has been
formulating its Artemis Project for several years, with the hope that one day,
science and commercialization will be the primary goals of the first
privately-supported lunar land-base and tourist destination. Although one goal
of the project will be the development of a commercialized environment on the
moon, science offers equally attractive objectives. For instance, the proposed
production of solar cells on the moon would provide a solution to the energy
crisis on earth for years to come. However, solar cells, rockets, and commercial
environments all need raw chemicals in order to function. Therefore, it is
necessary to examine the various methods of ore extraction which can take place
on the moon. This report will focus on specific types of extractive processes,
including electrometallurgy, chemical reactions, and novel concepts proposed by
scientists. Then, based on the findings, a brief solution will be suggested.
2. Electrometallurgy
2.1: Definition
One of the
potential extraction techniques is electrometallurgy. Although the term
electrometallurgy implies that only metals will be extracted from lunar soil,
this is not the case. One of the main chemicals being targeted for ore
extraction and processing is liquid and gaseous oxygen, because of its use in
rocket fuels and simple respiration. Electrometallurgy, which is defined as
using electricity and electrolysis in order to separate a compound into its
component elements or molecules or to reduce a metallic compound into simply the
metal itself, has great potential on the moon because of its lack simplicity,
dual extraction-purification purposes, and tested reliability.
2.2: Specific Uses in Artemis
2.2.1: Magma Electrolysis
In the
process of magma electrolysis, lunar soil (also known as regolith) is collected,
heated to super-hot temperatures using concentrated sunlight, which can reach
5500 degrees Celsius, and is, essentially, melted. Then, the liquid rock is
subjected to simple electrolysis, which separates the oxygen (which is the most
abundant element in the lunar crust) from the metallic elements with which it
commonly bonds, including magnesium, aluminum, calcium, iron, and silicates. One
the problems of this process is that one of the electrodes in the electrolysis
process would need to be made (or at least coated) with platinum, because of the
element’s inertness in reactions (the other electrode could be made from steel).
Also, platinum is corroded without much difficulty in the presence of silicates,
one of the products of the electrolysis. Therefore, this type of extraction
might prove costly if the electrodes need to be continually replaced. However,
this process has many positive aspects too. A small amount of equipment is
involved and the process itself is very simple. Also, the quantity of elements
yielded could make this a promising universal (no pun intended) extraction
technique.1
2.2.2: Silicate Minerals
One of the
main goals of the Artemis Project is to mine enough silicon on the moon (Silicon
comprises 21% of the lunar soil.) to be able to produce enough solar panels to,
more or less, solve the energy crisis on Earth. Therefore, it is necessary to
mine silicon in a reliable and cost-effective way. One proposed method is to use
electrolysis on silicate minerals (such as
CaAl2­­-Si4O8) to extract the silicon, oxygen,
and, theoretically, the other elements involved as well. Though few experiments
have been run, this method requires little energy, no refinement, no reactants,
little equipment, and is not complex in nature. A variation on this is called
flux silicate mineral processing. In essence, it’s the same thing, except one
must first reduce the CaAl2­­-Si4O8 with
aluminum. This immediately yields solid silicon for the production of solar
cells. The other end products are calcium oxide (CaO) and aluminum oxide
(Al2O3). Besides the immediate production of solid
silicon, the flux process also requires less energy than the normal method, has
less corrosion involved, and has higher conductivity in the electrodes. The
downside to this method (as with the magma electrolysis) is that the life of the
electrodes is unknown and could come at a cost that might jeopardize this method
of extraction. The main obstacle still to overcome is finding a cheap, yet
reliable electrode for the electrolysis process.

________________________________
From: "mm48ny@..." <mm48ny@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012 5:46 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012

Group,

Does anyone remember sending in a post
with a link about the Moon being covered
with silica/silicon? If you did send it can
you please resend it? I think this may lend
credence, once again, that the Vedas make
the mark, or withstand the test of time. Srila
Prabhupada mentions that the Moon has its
own effulgence, and I always believed that,
but struggled with it at some points, as to
how that could be possible, but now it makes
sense to me, i.e., SILICA/SILICONE!!!

AGTSP!

Mike, NYC

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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Very interesting about the Hoagland videos.

What do you think about the video from Japan?

Dean

···

--- In [email protected], "rohiller" <rohiller@...> wrote:

Dean-

I was taken in by Hoagland's speculation about glass structures on the moon for quite a while, but later information from Jay Weidner in his documentary "Kubrick's Odyssey" convinced me that Weidner's interpretation made a lot more sense. The artifacts that Hoagland discovered are due to the fact that the Apollo moon shots that were shown to the public were all made by Stanley Kubrick here on Earth using what was then state-of-the-art film technology called "front screen projection". The prism-like light refractions in the background of the Apollo shots are artifacts of that technology. See http://www.reddirtreport.com/Story.aspx/18536 for a good review of the documentary. Or watch the whole thing here: http://vimeo.com/34039692

regards,
Bob

--- In [email protected], "silopanna" <silopanna@> wrote:
>
> People,
>
> A little while ago we saw this video from Japan showing crystaline structures all over the surface of the Moon:
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KI0VIUVkSg
>
> As far back as the late 90s Hoagland was coming out saying that there were gigantic crystaline structures on the Moon, as much as a few miles high.
>
> Dean
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Christine Heffernan
> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:58 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012
>
>
>
> Hi Mike
>
> It wasn't me, but I remember seeing the post you are referring to. I did a little digging via Google and found this which say 21% of the lunar surface is silicon:
>
> http://www.moonsociety.org/projects/adb/wip/ore_extraction.htmPotential Methods of Ore Extraction on the Lunar
> Surface
> By Alexander M. Lapides
> Abstract:
> 1. Introduction
> Since the
> beginning of time, the moon has been a thing of wonderment to humans, a symbol
> of the unknown and larger universe. Now more than ever, a push has been made to
> commercialize the moon, with entrepreneurs and risk-takers investing billions in
> the newest high-tech equipment needed to reach the moon and harvest its natural
> resources. The Artemis Society, an international association, has been
> formulating its Artemis Project for several years, with the hope that one day,
> science and commercialization will be the primary goals of the first
> privately-supported lunar land-base and tourist destination. Although one goal
> of the project will be the development of a commercialized environment on the
> moon, science offers equally attractive objectives. For instance, the proposed
> production of solar cells on the moon would provide a solution to the energy
> crisis on earth for years to come. However, solar cells, rockets, and commercial
> environments all need raw chemicals in order to function. Therefore, it is
> necessary to examine the various methods of ore extraction which can take place
> on the moon. This report will focus on specific types of extractive processes,
> including electrometallurgy, chemical reactions, and novel concepts proposed by
> scientists. Then, based on the findings, a brief solution will be suggested.
> 2. Electrometallurgy
> 2.1: Definition
> One of the
> potential extraction techniques is electrometallurgy. Although the term
> electrometallurgy implies that only metals will be extracted from lunar soil,
> this is not the case. One of the main chemicals being targeted for ore
> extraction and processing is liquid and gaseous oxygen, because of its use in
> rocket fuels and simple respiration. Electrometallurgy, which is defined as
> using electricity and electrolysis in order to separate a compound into its
> component elements or molecules or to reduce a metallic compound into simply the
> metal itself, has great potential on the moon because of its lack simplicity,
> dual extraction-purification purposes, and tested reliability.
> 2.2: Specific Uses in Artemis
> 2.2.1: Magma Electrolysis
> In the
> process of magma electrolysis, lunar soil (also known as regolith) is collected,
> heated to super-hot temperatures using concentrated sunlight, which can reach
> 5500 degrees Celsius, and is, essentially, melted. Then, the liquid rock is
> subjected to simple electrolysis, which separates the oxygen (which is the most
> abundant element in the lunar crust) from the metallic elements with which it
> commonly bonds, including magnesium, aluminum, calcium, iron, and silicates. One
> the problems of this process is that one of the electrodes in the electrolysis
> process would need to be made (or at least coated) with platinum, because of the
> element’s inertness in reactions (the other electrode could be made from steel).
> Also, platinum is corroded without much difficulty in the presence of silicates,
> one of the products of the electrolysis. Therefore, this type of extraction
> might prove costly if the electrodes need to be continually replaced. However,
> this process has many positive aspects too. A small amount of equipment is
> involved and the process itself is very simple. Also, the quantity of elements
> yielded could make this a promising universal (no pun intended) extraction
> technique.1
> 2.2.2: Silicate Minerals
> One of the
> main goals of the Artemis Project is to mine enough silicon on the moon (Silicon
> comprises 21% of the lunar soil.) to be able to produce enough solar panels to,
> more or less, solve the energy crisis on Earth. Therefore, it is necessary to
> mine silicon in a reliable and cost-effective way. One proposed method is to use
> electrolysis on silicate minerals (such as
> CaAl2­­-Si4O8) to extract the silicon, oxygen,
> and, theoretically, the other elements involved as well. Though few experiments
> have been run, this method requires little energy, no refinement, no reactants,
> little equipment, and is not complex in nature. A variation on this is called
> flux silicate mineral processing. In essence, it’s the same thing, except one
> must first reduce the CaAl2­­-Si4O8 with
> aluminum. This immediately yields solid silicon for the production of solar
> cells. The other end products are calcium oxide (CaO) and aluminum oxide
> (Al2O3). Besides the immediate production of solid
> silicon, the flux process also requires less energy than the normal method, has
> less corrosion involved, and has higher conductivity in the electrodes. The
> downside to this method (as with the magma electrolysis) is that the life of the
> electrodes is unknown and could come at a cost that might jeopardize this method
> of extraction. The main obstacle still to overcome is finding a cheap, yet
> reliable electrode for the electrolysis process.
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: "mm48ny@" <mm48ny@>
> To: [email protected]
> Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012 5:46 AM
> Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012
>
>
>
>
> Group,
>
> Does anyone remember sending in a post
> with a link about the Moon being covered
> with silica/silicon? If you did send it can
> you please resend it? I think this may lend
> credence, once again, that the Vedas make
> the mark, or withstand the test of time. Srila
> Prabhupada mentions that the Moon has its
> own effulgence, and I always believed that,
> but struggled with it at some points, as to
> how that could be possible, but now it makes
> sense to me, i.e., SILICA/SILICONE!!!
>
> AGTSP!
>
> Mike, NYC
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

7

Dean-

I suspect that there are structures on the moon, but I can't really tell from the video you provided. It is only rendered by youtube in 240 mode. All you see is pixelation. Is there a 720p (or better) version of this video somewhere?

/Bob

···

--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@...> wrote:

Very interesting about the Hoagland videos.

What do you think about the video from Japan?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KI0VIUVkSg

Dean

--- In [email protected], "rohiller" <rohiller@> wrote:
>
>
>
> Dean-
>
> I was taken in by Hoagland's speculation about glass structures on the moon for quite a while, but later information from Jay Weidner in his documentary "Kubrick's Odyssey" convinced me that Weidner's interpretation made a lot more sense. The artifacts that Hoagland discovered are due to the fact that the Apollo moon shots that were shown to the public were all made by Stanley Kubrick here on Earth using what was then state-of-the-art film technology called "front screen projection". The prism-like light refractions in the background of the Apollo shots are artifacts of that technology. See http://www.reddirtreport.com/Story.aspx/18536 for a good review of the documentary. Or watch the whole thing here: http://vimeo.com/34039692
>
> regards,
> Bob
>
> --- In [email protected], "silopanna" <silopanna@> wrote:
> >
> > People,
> >
> > A little while ago we saw this video from Japan showing crystaline structures all over the surface of the Moon:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KI0VIUVkSg
> >
> > As far back as the late 90s Hoagland was coming out saying that there were gigantic crystaline structures on the Moon, as much as a few miles high.
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Christine Heffernan
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:58 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Mike
> >
> > It wasn't me, but I remember seeing the post you are referring to. I did a little digging via Google and found this which say 21% of the lunar surface is silicon:
> >
> > http://www.moonsociety.org/projects/adb/wip/ore_extraction.htmPotential Methods of Ore Extraction on the Lunar
> > Surface
> > By Alexander M. Lapides
> > Abstract:
> > 1. Introduction
> > Since the
> > beginning of time, the moon has been a thing of wonderment to humans, a symbol
> > of the unknown and larger universe. Now more than ever, a push has been made to
> > commercialize the moon, with entrepreneurs and risk-takers investing billions in
> > the newest high-tech equipment needed to reach the moon and harvest its natural
> > resources. The Artemis Society, an international association, has been
> > formulating its Artemis Project for several years, with the hope that one day,
> > science and commercialization will be the primary goals of the first
> > privately-supported lunar land-base and tourist destination. Although one goal
> > of the project will be the development of a commercialized environment on the
> > moon, science offers equally attractive objectives. For instance, the proposed
> > production of solar cells on the moon would provide a solution to the energy
> > crisis on earth for years to come. However, solar cells, rockets, and commercial
> > environments all need raw chemicals in order to function. Therefore, it is
> > necessary to examine the various methods of ore extraction which can take place
> > on the moon. This report will focus on specific types of extractive processes,
> > including electrometallurgy, chemical reactions, and novel concepts proposed by
> > scientists. Then, based on the findings, a brief solution will be suggested.
> > 2. Electrometallurgy
> > 2.1: Definition
> > One of the
> > potential extraction techniques is electrometallurgy. Although the term
> > electrometallurgy implies that only metals will be extracted from lunar soil,
> > this is not the case. One of the main chemicals being targeted for ore
> > extraction and processing is liquid and gaseous oxygen, because of its use in
> > rocket fuels and simple respiration. Electrometallurgy, which is defined as
> > using electricity and electrolysis in order to separate a compound into its
> > component elements or molecules or to reduce a metallic compound into simply the
> > metal itself, has great potential on the moon because of its lack simplicity,
> > dual extraction-purification purposes, and tested reliability.
> > 2.2: Specific Uses in Artemis
> > 2.2.1: Magma Electrolysis
> > In the
> > process of magma electrolysis, lunar soil (also known as regolith) is collected,
> > heated to super-hot temperatures using concentrated sunlight, which can reach
> > 5500 degrees Celsius, and is, essentially, melted. Then, the liquid rock is
> > subjected to simple electrolysis, which separates the oxygen (which is the most
> > abundant element in the lunar crust) from the metallic elements with which it
> > commonly bonds, including magnesium, aluminum, calcium, iron, and silicates. One
> > the problems of this process is that one of the electrodes in the electrolysis
> > process would need to be made (or at least coated) with platinum, because of the
> > element’s inertness in reactions (the other electrode could be made from steel).
> > Also, platinum is corroded without much difficulty in the presence of silicates,
> > one of the products of the electrolysis. Therefore, this type of extraction
> > might prove costly if the electrodes need to be continually replaced. However,
> > this process has many positive aspects too. A small amount of equipment is
> > involved and the process itself is very simple. Also, the quantity of elements
> > yielded could make this a promising universal (no pun intended) extraction
> > technique.1
> > 2.2.2: Silicate Minerals
> > One of the
> > main goals of the Artemis Project is to mine enough silicon on the moon (Silicon
> > comprises 21% of the lunar soil.) to be able to produce enough solar panels to,
> > more or less, solve the energy crisis on Earth. Therefore, it is necessary to
> > mine silicon in a reliable and cost-effective way. One proposed method is to use
> > electrolysis on silicate minerals (such as
> > CaAl2­­-Si4O8) to extract the silicon, oxygen,
> > and, theoretically, the other elements involved as well. Though few experiments
> > have been run, this method requires little energy, no refinement, no reactants,
> > little equipment, and is not complex in nature. A variation on this is called
> > flux silicate mineral processing. In essence, it’s the same thing, except one
> > must first reduce the CaAl2­­-Si4O8 with
> > aluminum. This immediately yields solid silicon for the production of solar
> > cells. The other end products are calcium oxide (CaO) and aluminum oxide
> > (Al2O3). Besides the immediate production of solid
> > silicon, the flux process also requires less energy than the normal method, has
> > less corrosion involved, and has higher conductivity in the electrodes. The
> > downside to this method (as with the magma electrolysis) is that the life of the
> > electrodes is unknown and could come at a cost that might jeopardize this method
> > of extraction. The main obstacle still to overcome is finding a cheap, yet
> > reliable electrode for the electrolysis process.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: "mm48ny@" <mm48ny@>
> > To: [email protected]
> > Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012 5:46 AM
> > Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Group,
> >
> > Does anyone remember sending in a post
> > with a link about the Moon being covered
> > with silica/silicon? If you did send it can
> > you please resend it? I think this may lend
> > credence, once again, that the Vedas make
> > the mark, or withstand the test of time. Srila
> > Prabhupada mentions that the Moon has its
> > own effulgence, and I always believed that,
> > but struggled with it at some points, as to
> > how that could be possible, but now it makes
> > sense to me, i.e., SILICA/SILICONE!!!
> >
> > AGTSP!
> >
> > Mike, NYC
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>

8

Bob,

How about this one? Glass ruins on the Moon?

It is obvious what is being shown.

Dean

···

--- In [email protected], "rohiller" <rohiller@...> wrote:

Dean-

I suspect that there are structures on the moon, but I can't really tell from the video you provided. It is only rendered by youtube in 240 mode. All you see is pixelation. Is there a 720p (or better) version of this video somewhere?

/Bob

--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
>
> Very interesting about the Hoagland videos.
>
> What do you think about the video from Japan?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KI0VIUVkSg
>
> Dean
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "rohiller" <rohiller@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Dean-
> >
> > I was taken in by Hoagland's speculation about glass structures on the moon for quite a while, but later information from Jay Weidner in his documentary "Kubrick's Odyssey" convinced me that Weidner's interpretation made a lot more sense. The artifacts that Hoagland discovered are due to the fact that the Apollo moon shots that were shown to the public were all made by Stanley Kubrick here on Earth using what was then state-of-the-art film technology called "front screen projection". The prism-like light refractions in the background of the Apollo shots are artifacts of that technology. See http://www.reddirtreport.com/Story.aspx/18536 for a good review of the documentary. Or watch the whole thing here: http://vimeo.com/34039692
> >
> > regards,
> > Bob
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "silopanna" <silopanna@> wrote:
> > >
> > > People,
> > >
> > > A little while ago we saw this video from Japan showing crystaline structures all over the surface of the Moon:
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KI0VIUVkSg
> > >
> > > As far back as the late 90s Hoagland was coming out saying that there were gigantic crystaline structures on the Moon, as much as a few miles high.
> > >
> > > Dean
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Christine Heffernan
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:58 PM
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Mike
> > >
> > > It wasn't me, but I remember seeing the post you are referring to. I did a little digging via Google and found this which say 21% of the lunar surface is silicon:
> > >
> > > http://www.moonsociety.org/projects/adb/wip/ore_extraction.htmPotential Methods of Ore Extraction on the Lunar
> > > Surface
> > > By Alexander M. Lapides
> > > Abstract:
> > > 1. Introduction
> > > Since the
> > > beginning of time, the moon has been a thing of wonderment to humans, a symbol
> > > of the unknown and larger universe. Now more than ever, a push has been made to
> > > commercialize the moon, with entrepreneurs and risk-takers investing billions in
> > > the newest high-tech equipment needed to reach the moon and harvest its natural
> > > resources. The Artemis Society, an international association, has been
> > > formulating its Artemis Project for several years, with the hope that one day,
> > > science and commercialization will be the primary goals of the first
> > > privately-supported lunar land-base and tourist destination. Although one goal
> > > of the project will be the development of a commercialized environment on the
> > > moon, science offers equally attractive objectives. For instance, the proposed
> > > production of solar cells on the moon would provide a solution to the energy
> > > crisis on earth for years to come. However, solar cells, rockets, and commercial
> > > environments all need raw chemicals in order to function. Therefore, it is
> > > necessary to examine the various methods of ore extraction which can take place
> > > on the moon. This report will focus on specific types of extractive processes,
> > > including electrometallurgy, chemical reactions, and novel concepts proposed by
> > > scientists. Then, based on the findings, a brief solution will be suggested.
> > > 2. Electrometallurgy
> > > 2.1: Definition
> > > One of the
> > > potential extraction techniques is electrometallurgy. Although the term
> > > electrometallurgy implies that only metals will be extracted from lunar soil,
> > > this is not the case. One of the main chemicals being targeted for ore
> > > extraction and processing is liquid and gaseous oxygen, because of its use in
> > > rocket fuels and simple respiration. Electrometallurgy, which is defined as
> > > using electricity and electrolysis in order to separate a compound into its
> > > component elements or molecules or to reduce a metallic compound into simply the
> > > metal itself, has great potential on the moon because of its lack simplicity,
> > > dual extraction-purification purposes, and tested reliability.
> > > 2.2: Specific Uses in Artemis
> > > 2.2.1: Magma Electrolysis
> > > In the
> > > process of magma electrolysis, lunar soil (also known as regolith) is collected,
> > > heated to super-hot temperatures using concentrated sunlight, which can reach
> > > 5500 degrees Celsius, and is, essentially, melted. Then, the liquid rock is
> > > subjected to simple electrolysis, which separates the oxygen (which is the most
> > > abundant element in the lunar crust) from the metallic elements with which it
> > > commonly bonds, including magnesium, aluminum, calcium, iron, and silicates. One
> > > the problems of this process is that one of the electrodes in the electrolysis
> > > process would need to be made (or at least coated) with platinum, because of the
> > > element’s inertness in reactions (the other electrode could be made from steel).
> > > Also, platinum is corroded without much difficulty in the presence of silicates,
> > > one of the products of the electrolysis. Therefore, this type of extraction
> > > might prove costly if the electrodes need to be continually replaced. However,
> > > this process has many positive aspects too. A small amount of equipment is
> > > involved and the process itself is very simple. Also, the quantity of elements
> > > yielded could make this a promising universal (no pun intended) extraction
> > > technique.1
> > > 2.2.2: Silicate Minerals
> > > One of the
> > > main goals of the Artemis Project is to mine enough silicon on the moon (Silicon
> > > comprises 21% of the lunar soil.) to be able to produce enough solar panels to,
> > > more or less, solve the energy crisis on Earth. Therefore, it is necessary to
> > > mine silicon in a reliable and cost-effective way. One proposed method is to use
> > > electrolysis on silicate minerals (such as
> > > CaAl2­­-Si4O8) to extract the silicon, oxygen,
> > > and, theoretically, the other elements involved as well. Though few experiments
> > > have been run, this method requires little energy, no refinement, no reactants,
> > > little equipment, and is not complex in nature. A variation on this is called
> > > flux silicate mineral processing. In essence, it’s the same thing, except one
> > > must first reduce the CaAl2­­-Si4O8 with
> > > aluminum. This immediately yields solid silicon for the production of solar
> > > cells. The other end products are calcium oxide (CaO) and aluminum oxide
> > > (Al2O3). Besides the immediate production of solid
> > > silicon, the flux process also requires less energy than the normal method, has
> > > less corrosion involved, and has higher conductivity in the electrodes. The
> > > downside to this method (as with the magma electrolysis) is that the life of the
> > > electrodes is unknown and could come at a cost that might jeopardize this method
> > > of extraction. The main obstacle still to overcome is finding a cheap, yet
> > > reliable electrode for the electrolysis process.
> > >
> > >
> > > ________________________________
> > > From: "mm48ny@" <mm48ny@>
> > > To: [email protected]
> > > Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012 5:46 AM
> > > Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Group,
> > >
> > > Does anyone remember sending in a post
> > > with a link about the Moon being covered
> > > with silica/silicon? If you did send it can
> > > you please resend it? I think this may lend
> > > credence, once again, that the Vedas make
> > > the mark, or withstand the test of time. Srila
> > > Prabhupada mentions that the Moon has its
> > > own effulgence, and I always believed that,
> > > but struggled with it at some points, as to
> > > how that could be possible, but now it makes
> > > sense to me, i.e., SILICA/SILICONE!!!
> > >
> > > AGTSP!
> > >
> > > Mike, NYC
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
>

9

Hi, Dean-

Thanks. That is a very interesting video. The structures shown are very different from the geometric glass scaffolding sort of structures that Hoagland infers from the prismatic anomalies and high contrast enhancements of the Apollo stills. Getting back to Weidner's theory, he does not deny that there are structures on the moon (or put another way, that whatever has been discovered on the moon by NASA is highly classified and has never been made public). What he does assert is that the photos and vids that NASA released coincident with the Apollo moon landings in the 70s were produced here on Earth by Kubrick. Taking into account all of the evidence available, I am of the opinion that this theory of Weidner's makes the most sense.

/Bob

···

--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@...> wrote:

Bob,

How about this one? Glass ruins on the Moon?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwpMgOoFak4

It is obvious what is being shown.

Dean

--- In [email protected], "rohiller" <rohiller@> wrote:
>
> Dean-
>
> I suspect that there are structures on the moon, but I can't really tell from the video you provided. It is only rendered by youtube in 240 mode. All you see is pixelation. Is there a 720p (or better) version of this video somewhere?
>
> /Bob
>
> --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> >
> > Very interesting about the Hoagland videos.
> >
> > What do you think about the video from Japan?
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KI0VIUVkSg
> >
> > Dean
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "rohiller" <rohiller@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dean-
> > >
> > > I was taken in by Hoagland's speculation about glass structures on the moon for quite a while, but later information from Jay Weidner in his documentary "Kubrick's Odyssey" convinced me that Weidner's interpretation made a lot more sense. The artifacts that Hoagland discovered are due to the fact that the Apollo moon shots that were shown to the public were all made by Stanley Kubrick here on Earth using what was then state-of-the-art film technology called "front screen projection". The prism-like light refractions in the background of the Apollo shots are artifacts of that technology. See http://www.reddirtreport.com/Story.aspx/18536 for a good review of the documentary. Or watch the whole thing here: http://vimeo.com/34039692
> > >
> > > regards,
> > > Bob
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "silopanna" <silopanna@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > People,
> > > >
> > > > A little while ago we saw this video from Japan showing crystaline structures all over the surface of the Moon:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KI0VIUVkSg
> > > >
> > > > As far back as the late 90s Hoagland was coming out saying that there were gigantic crystaline structures on the Moon, as much as a few miles high.
> > > >
> > > > Dean
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Christine Heffernan
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:58 PM
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Mike
> > > >
> > > > It wasn't me, but I remember seeing the post you are referring to. I did a little digging via Google and found this which say 21% of the lunar surface is silicon:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.moonsociety.org/projects/adb/wip/ore_extraction.htmPotential Methods of Ore Extraction on the Lunar
> > > > Surface
> > > > By Alexander M. Lapides
> > > > Abstract:
> > > > 1. Introduction
> > > > Since the
> > > > beginning of time, the moon has been a thing of wonderment to humans, a symbol
> > > > of the unknown and larger universe. Now more than ever, a push has been made to
> > > > commercialize the moon, with entrepreneurs and risk-takers investing billions in
> > > > the newest high-tech equipment needed to reach the moon and harvest its natural
> > > > resources. The Artemis Society, an international association, has been
> > > > formulating its Artemis Project for several years, with the hope that one day,
> > > > science and commercialization will be the primary goals of the first
> > > > privately-supported lunar land-base and tourist destination. Although one goal
> > > > of the project will be the development of a commercialized environment on the
> > > > moon, science offers equally attractive objectives. For instance, the proposed
> > > > production of solar cells on the moon would provide a solution to the energy
> > > > crisis on earth for years to come. However, solar cells, rockets, and commercial
> > > > environments all need raw chemicals in order to function. Therefore, it is
> > > > necessary to examine the various methods of ore extraction which can take place
> > > > on the moon. This report will focus on specific types of extractive processes,
> > > > including electrometallurgy, chemical reactions, and novel concepts proposed by
> > > > scientists. Then, based on the findings, a brief solution will be suggested.
> > > > 2. Electrometallurgy
> > > > 2.1: Definition
> > > > One of the
> > > > potential extraction techniques is electrometallurgy. Although the term
> > > > electrometallurgy implies that only metals will be extracted from lunar soil,
> > > > this is not the case. One of the main chemicals being targeted for ore
> > > > extraction and processing is liquid and gaseous oxygen, because of its use in
> > > > rocket fuels and simple respiration. Electrometallurgy, which is defined as
> > > > using electricity and electrolysis in order to separate a compound into its
> > > > component elements or molecules or to reduce a metallic compound into simply the
> > > > metal itself, has great potential on the moon because of its lack simplicity,
> > > > dual extraction-purification purposes, and tested reliability.
> > > > 2.2: Specific Uses in Artemis
> > > > 2.2.1: Magma Electrolysis
> > > > In the
> > > > process of magma electrolysis, lunar soil (also known as regolith) is collected,
> > > > heated to super-hot temperatures using concentrated sunlight, which can reach
> > > > 5500 degrees Celsius, and is, essentially, melted. Then, the liquid rock is
> > > > subjected to simple electrolysis, which separates the oxygen (which is the most
> > > > abundant element in the lunar crust) from the metallic elements with which it
> > > > commonly bonds, including magnesium, aluminum, calcium, iron, and silicates. One
> > > > the problems of this process is that one of the electrodes in the electrolysis
> > > > process would need to be made (or at least coated) with platinum, because of the
> > > > element’s inertness in reactions (the other electrode could be made from steel).
> > > > Also, platinum is corroded without much difficulty in the presence of silicates,
> > > > one of the products of the electrolysis. Therefore, this type of extraction
> > > > might prove costly if the electrodes need to be continually replaced. However,
> > > > this process has many positive aspects too. A small amount of equipment is
> > > > involved and the process itself is very simple. Also, the quantity of elements
> > > > yielded could make this a promising universal (no pun intended) extraction
> > > > technique.1
> > > > 2.2.2: Silicate Minerals
> > > > One of the
> > > > main goals of the Artemis Project is to mine enough silicon on the moon (Silicon
> > > > comprises 21% of the lunar soil.) to be able to produce enough solar panels to,
> > > > more or less, solve the energy crisis on Earth. Therefore, it is necessary to
> > > > mine silicon in a reliable and cost-effective way. One proposed method is to use
> > > > electrolysis on silicate minerals (such as
> > > > CaAl2­­-Si4O8) to extract the silicon, oxygen,
> > > > and, theoretically, the other elements involved as well. Though few experiments
> > > > have been run, this method requires little energy, no refinement, no reactants,
> > > > little equipment, and is not complex in nature. A variation on this is called
> > > > flux silicate mineral processing. In essence, it’s the same thing, except one
> > > > must first reduce the CaAl2­­-Si4O8 with
> > > > aluminum. This immediately yields solid silicon for the production of solar
> > > > cells. The other end products are calcium oxide (CaO) and aluminum oxide
> > > > (Al2O3). Besides the immediate production of solid
> > > > silicon, the flux process also requires less energy than the normal method, has
> > > > less corrosion involved, and has higher conductivity in the electrodes. The
> > > > downside to this method (as with the magma electrolysis) is that the life of the
> > > > electrodes is unknown and could come at a cost that might jeopardize this method
> > > > of extraction. The main obstacle still to overcome is finding a cheap, yet
> > > > reliable electrode for the electrolysis process.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ________________________________
> > > > From: "mm48ny@" <mm48ny@>
> > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012 5:46 AM
> > > > Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Group,
> > > >
> > > > Does anyone remember sending in a post
> > > > with a link about the Moon being covered
> > > > with silica/silicon? If you did send it can
> > > > you please resend it? I think this may lend
> > > > credence, once again, that the Vedas make
> > > > the mark, or withstand the test of time. Srila
> > > > Prabhupada mentions that the Moon has its
> > > > own effulgence, and I always believed that,
> > > > but struggled with it at some points, as to
> > > > how that could be possible, but now it makes
> > > > sense to me, i.e., SILICA/SILICONE!!!
> > > >
> > > > AGTSP!
> > > >
> > > > Mike, NYC
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

10

Rohiller,

I'd agree that the Apollo material that was released was shot down here on earth, too. I imagine that they went to the Moon, but not in that Apollo contraption.

And yes, this does make more sense than some other ideas.

Dean

···

--- In [email protected], "rohiller" <rohiller@...> wrote:

Hi, Dean-

Thanks. That is a very interesting video. The structures shown are very different from the geometric glass scaffolding sort of structures that Hoagland infers from the prismatic anomalies and high contrast enhancements of the Apollo stills. Getting back to Weidner's theory, he does not deny that there are structures on the moon (or put another way, that whatever has been discovered on the moon by NASA is highly classified and has never been made public). What he does assert is that the photos and vids that NASA released coincident with the Apollo moon landings in the 70s were produced here on Earth by Kubrick. Taking into account all of the evidence available, I am of the opinion that this theory of Weidner's makes the most sense.

/Bob

--- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> How about this one? Glass ruins on the Moon?
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwpMgOoFak4
>
> It is obvious what is being shown.
>
> Dean
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "rohiller" <rohiller@> wrote:
> >
> > Dean-
> >
> > I suspect that there are structures on the moon, but I can't really tell from the video you provided. It is only rendered by youtube in 240 mode. All you see is pixelation. Is there a 720p (or better) version of this video somewhere?
> >
> > /Bob
> >
> > --- In [email protected], "Dean D" <silopanna@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Very interesting about the Hoagland videos.
> > >
> > > What do you think about the video from Japan?
> > >
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KI0VIUVkSg
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> > > Dean
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], "rohiller" <rohiller@> wrote:
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> > > >
> > > > Dean-
> > > >
> > > > I was taken in by Hoagland's speculation about glass structures on the moon for quite a while, but later information from Jay Weidner in his documentary "Kubrick's Odyssey" convinced me that Weidner's interpretation made a lot more sense. The artifacts that Hoagland discovered are due to the fact that the Apollo moon shots that were shown to the public were all made by Stanley Kubrick here on Earth using what was then state-of-the-art film technology called "front screen projection". The prism-like light refractions in the background of the Apollo shots are artifacts of that technology. See http://www.reddirtreport.com/Story.aspx/18536 for a good review of the documentary. Or watch the whole thing here: http://vimeo.com/34039692
> > > >
> > > > regards,
> > > > Bob
> > > >
> > > > --- In [email protected], "silopanna" <silopanna@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > People,
> > > > >
> > > > > A little while ago we saw this video from Japan showing crystaline structures all over the surface of the Moon:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KI0VIUVkSg
> > > > >
> > > > > As far back as the late 90s Hoagland was coming out saying that there were gigantic crystaline structures on the Moon, as much as a few miles high.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dean
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> > > > >
> > > > > From: Christine Heffernan
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:58 PM
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Mike
> > > > >
> > > > > It wasn't me, but I remember seeing the post you are referring to. I did a little digging via Google and found this which say 21% of the lunar surface is silicon:
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.moonsociety.org/projects/adb/wip/ore_extraction.htmPotential Methods of Ore Extraction on the Lunar
> > > > > Surface
> > > > > By Alexander M. Lapides
> > > > > Abstract:
> > > > > 1. Introduction
> > > > > Since the
> > > > > beginning of time, the moon has been a thing of wonderment to humans, a symbol
> > > > > of the unknown and larger universe. Now more than ever, a push has been made to
> > > > > commercialize the moon, with entrepreneurs and risk-takers investing billions in
> > > > > the newest high-tech equipment needed to reach the moon and harvest its natural
> > > > > resources. The Artemis Society, an international association, has been
> > > > > formulating its Artemis Project for several years, with the hope that one day,
> > > > > science and commercialization will be the primary goals of the first
> > > > > privately-supported lunar land-base and tourist destination. Although one goal
> > > > > of the project will be the development of a commercialized environment on the
> > > > > moon, science offers equally attractive objectives. For instance, the proposed
> > > > > production of solar cells on the moon would provide a solution to the energy
> > > > > crisis on earth for years to come. However, solar cells, rockets, and commercial
> > > > > environments all need raw chemicals in order to function. Therefore, it is
> > > > > necessary to examine the various methods of ore extraction which can take place
> > > > > on the moon. This report will focus on specific types of extractive processes,
> > > > > including electrometallurgy, chemical reactions, and novel concepts proposed by
> > > > > scientists. Then, based on the findings, a brief solution will be suggested.
> > > > > 2. Electrometallurgy
> > > > > 2.1: Definition
> > > > > One of the
> > > > > potential extraction techniques is electrometallurgy. Although the term
> > > > > electrometallurgy implies that only metals will be extracted from lunar soil,
> > > > > this is not the case. One of the main chemicals being targeted for ore
> > > > > extraction and processing is liquid and gaseous oxygen, because of its use in
> > > > > rocket fuels and simple respiration. Electrometallurgy, which is defined as
> > > > > using electricity and electrolysis in order to separate a compound into its
> > > > > component elements or molecules or to reduce a metallic compound into simply the
> > > > > metal itself, has great potential on the moon because of its lack simplicity,
> > > > > dual extraction-purification purposes, and tested reliability.
> > > > > 2.2: Specific Uses in Artemis
> > > > > 2.2.1: Magma Electrolysis
> > > > > In the
> > > > > process of magma electrolysis, lunar soil (also known as regolith) is collected,
> > > > > heated to super-hot temperatures using concentrated sunlight, which can reach
> > > > > 5500 degrees Celsius, and is, essentially, melted. Then, the liquid rock is
> > > > > subjected to simple electrolysis, which separates the oxygen (which is the most
> > > > > abundant element in the lunar crust) from the metallic elements with which it
> > > > > commonly bonds, including magnesium, aluminum, calcium, iron, and silicates. One
> > > > > the problems of this process is that one of the electrodes in the electrolysis
> > > > > process would need to be made (or at least coated) with platinum, because of the
> > > > > element’s inertness in reactions (the other electrode could be made from steel).
> > > > > Also, platinum is corroded without much difficulty in the presence of silicates,
> > > > > one of the products of the electrolysis. Therefore, this type of extraction
> > > > > might prove costly if the electrodes need to be continually replaced. However,
> > > > > this process has many positive aspects too. A small amount of equipment is
> > > > > involved and the process itself is very simple. Also, the quantity of elements
> > > > > yielded could make this a promising universal (no pun intended) extraction
> > > > > technique.1
> > > > > 2.2.2: Silicate Minerals
> > > > > One of the
> > > > > main goals of the Artemis Project is to mine enough silicon on the moon (Silicon
> > > > > comprises 21% of the lunar soil.) to be able to produce enough solar panels to,
> > > > > more or less, solve the energy crisis on Earth. Therefore, it is necessary to
> > > > > mine silicon in a reliable and cost-effective way. One proposed method is to use
> > > > > electrolysis on silicate minerals (such as
> > > > > CaAl2­­-Si4O8) to extract the silicon, oxygen,
> > > > > and, theoretically, the other elements involved as well. Though few experiments
> > > > > have been run, this method requires little energy, no refinement, no reactants,
> > > > > little equipment, and is not complex in nature. A variation on this is called
> > > > > flux silicate mineral processing. In essence, it’s the same thing, except one
> > > > > must first reduce the CaAl2­­-Si4O8 with
> > > > > aluminum. This immediately yields solid silicon for the production of solar
> > > > > cells. The other end products are calcium oxide (CaO) and aluminum oxide
> > > > > (Al2O3). Besides the immediate production of solid
> > > > > silicon, the flux process also requires less energy than the normal method, has
> > > > > less corrosion involved, and has higher conductivity in the electrodes. The
> > > > > downside to this method (as with the magma electrolysis) is that the life of the
> > > > > electrodes is unknown and could come at a cost that might jeopardize this method
> > > > > of extraction. The main obstacle still to overcome is finding a cheap, yet
> > > > > reliable electrode for the electrolysis process.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > From: "mm48ny@" <mm48ny@>
> > > > > To: [email protected]
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, 30 August 2012 5:46 AM
> > > > > Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Coast To Coast AM - Pyramids, Egypt & Angels - Monday 27, 2012
> > > > >
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> > > > > Group,
> > > > >
> > > > > Does anyone remember sending in a post
> > > > > with a link about the Moon being covered
> > > > > with silica/silicon? If you did send it can
> > > > > you please resend it? I think this may lend
> > > > > credence, once again, that the Vedas make
> > > > > the mark, or withstand the test of time. Srila
> > > > > Prabhupada mentions that the Moon has its
> > > > > own effulgence, and I always believed that,
> > > > > but struggled with it at some points, as to
> > > > > how that could be possible, but now it makes
> > > > > sense to me, i.e., SILICA/SILICONE!!!
> > > > >
> > > > > AGTSP!
> > > > >
> > > > > Mike, NYC
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