Ch.3 Cater-Tides

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I have just finished reading Cater's explanation for high tides, and that tides will be highest during a New Moon. As an astrologer this makes perfect sense to me. The Sun & Moon, when the (moon is at quarter--90 degree), is when the tension between the two is at it's highest, it peaks a minute after an opposition 180, but their energies merge at 0 degrees. I am guessing Cater is saying that when the Sun and Moon are working against each other so to speak, tides will be at their lowest due to less gravitational pull, because the interaction during the times of squares and oppositions is focussed more between the Sun and the Moon, and not the Earth?

At a New Moon (conjunction to astrologer's) the Sun and Moon are in unison so to speak, and are combing their gravity, which increases the gravitational pull, hence high tides. To an astrologer this makes sense. When reading a chart where one has Sun & Moon Conjunct, or where one was born under a New Moon, indicates an intense merging and interaction of both the Sun's and Moon's energies within the person. Also, people born under a New Moon often have a tendency to hold the power of magnetic healing.

Conjunctions (involving any planets) characterize particularly strong modes of energy flow--conjunction is action. Therefore, I would expect the most "action" or "gravitational pull" on the tides at a New Moon.

If I have interpreted this wrong feel free to correct me.

Leslee

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Leslee wrote:

I have just finished reading Cater's explanation for high tides, and that tides will be highest during a New Moon. As an astrologer this makes perfect sense to me. The Sun & Moon, when the (moon is at quarter--90 degree), is when the tension between the two is at it's highest, it peaks a minute after an opposition 180, but their energies merge at 0 degrees. I am guessing Cater is saying that when the Sun and Moon are working against each other so to speak, tides will be at their lowest due to less gravitational pull, because the interaction during the times of squares and oppositions is focussed more between the Sun and the Moon, and not the Earth?

Dean Writes:

Leslee,

What specifically interests me about Cater's presentation on the tides is the idea that gravity does not have unlimited penetration through the Earth, in other terms, that gravity is not occasioned by the density of mass. Obviously, there is mass thorughout the Earth's shell and, if gravity does not penetrate, then it cannot be caused by mass.

Anyway, the idea is that if gravity were penetrating and synomamous with the existence of mass, one would be hard-pressed to establish the HET, as the shell of the Earth would have a tendency to collapse inward upon itself. Or else the cavity would hgave to be so small as to practically preclude the existence of any inner sun.

This is why I am interested in studying the nature of tides- the concept of gravity which one accepts either makes or breaks the HET. I really am interested in chatting of the cause and nature of tides and gravity. I know that Scott has some ideas, too, which we should all take a look at.

Here are some of the comments which Cater makes which are of interest:

One of the most extraordinary examples of irrationalism in the history of orthodox physics is the standard explanation of tides. In this case, the discrepancy between reality and orthodox speculation is so colossal it is one of the great enigmas in the history of human thought, that it has not been challenged since the time of Newton. The origin of the difficulty is an obvious flaw in the Newtonian concept of gravitation. It is the idea that gravity effects have unlimited penetration. In other words, there is no attenuation of gravity effects other than that due to the inverse square law as it passes through matter. This is an outrageous violation of the law of conservation of energy.

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It is now apparent that the idea of unlimited gravity penetration is not valid. This means that the surface gravity effects of the Moon penetrate the Earth for only very limited distances. Therefore, the total acceleration that the surface gravity of the moon imparts to the Earth, as a whole, is very small compared to the acceleration force exerted on an object at the Earth’s surface, such as a body of water facing the moon. This means the water, not being fixed to the Earth, is free to move across the surface by means of the Moon’s gravitational influence. The difference in gravitational accelerations is so great that the acceleration given a body at the surface follows very closely the inverse square law, since the acceleration given the Earth as a whole can be disregarded.

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The analysis of tides presented above forms the basis for proving that the surface gravity of the Moon is greater than that on the sun. Since the sun and the Moon have the same apparent diameters, viewed from the Earth, tidal
effects produced by them are directly proportional to their surface gravities. ... gravitational effects vary inversely as the square of the distance away. Their [ the Sun and the Moon ] apparent diameters are inversely proportional to the distance; therefore, their apparent surface areas also vary inversely as the square of the distance Since the moon is a greater factor in producing tides, the conclusion that the Moon has a greater surface gravity than the Sun is inescapable! To the orthodox mind this produces insurmountable paradoxes.