Dear D, I have ordered a video from the library on Byrd's South Pole expedition. This was filmed in the thirties!!! I can't wait to see it, and I'll let you know if anything interesting comes up.
Jayaradhe
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Dear D, I have ordered a video from the library on Byrd's South Pole
expedition. This was filmed in the thirties!!! I can't wait to see it, and
I'll let you know if anything interesting comes up.Jayaradhe
From the Hollow Planets list, posted by Dharmapada:
Jan,
I read your article about hallow planets in Jeff Rense's weekly
Newsletter. Very thought provoking.I use to study Astronomy in college. I,m pretty sure I read that
the Moon's orbit is in a perfect, circular orbit around the Earth. All
the other Planets and Moon's have an elliptical orbit around whatever
object they are circulating.The only objects that have a perfectly circular orbit are the
satellites. In other words, a circular orbit has to be man made, (or
designed by an intelligence).Having just recently came across your web-site and I still have not
read your book, I was wondering if you came across this information
about the Moon having a circular orbit?George
Hi Dean!
Simon Magus, the chief enemy of Jesus, and the guy who
actually flew over the city, wrote a series of documents
which are still around somewhere but I don't remember the
location....one of them says the way he prepared himself to
fly was to dig a depression in the earth in the depths of a
valley, and lay there all night with his face down on the
earth breathing in the air from the earth....he said when he
arose the next day, he lost enough weight that he could fly
like a bird...
I found it in passing long ago and kick myself because I
didn't copy the source or reference....but there are still
followers of Simon Magus as his powers were in many ways,
SUPERIOR to Jesus....history records it otherwise..<g>....
Since the earth is supposed to be negative, I figured he
would suffuse his body with negative charges from breathing
from the earth.....that would make him repel partially or
fully....all he has to do is lose most of his weight and he
could swim through the air like a flying squirrel....if you
only weighed a few pounds you could jump a hundred feet....
The tie in here of course is the negative charges.....the
Lung Gom Pa in Tibet use a meditation ritual to lose weight
allowing them to jump many feet at a time...and high into
the air...seeya!
List Members,
In the book Etidorhpa, the " Guide " speaks to his charge ( the man )
saying that the mind acts on matter on from within the brain because it is
trapped within the body/brain by certain electrostatic polarities. ( Keep
in mind that there are certain Puranic statements telling us that the mind
operates on the ethereal platform ). The guide tells the man that, deep
within the Earth, shielded from the greater part of electrostatic gravity,
the influence of those electrostatic forces are diminished. So what does the
man find out? That his mind not only acts on matter within his body, i.e.,
when he wills to move his fingers it does so, but without, too, and the man
engages in telepathy, for example, and exhibits other mystic perfections,
even without practice! As another example, the man makes objects fly away
and then come back to his hand. The " liberation " thus caused by diminished
electrostatic forces on our bodies, or at least the diminishing of the
electrostatic forces and polarities which bind our mind within our body,
means that it becomes easier to " exteriorise " the mind, i.e., mystic
practice comes easier to a person and is more feasable to develop.
Of course, the man's experience did not take place in the hollow portion,
but rather in the no-gravity zone in the shell's interior, where gravity
from the outer surface completely changes over and cedes to gravity from the
inner surface. So on the inner surface, it may not be just like the man
experienced in the inner shell, in the
" no-gravity zone," but gravity is deemed to diminish because the radiations
which induce gravity have a hard time penetrating that far, to the inner
surface.
Perhaps all this is why this is why mystic practices were reported in the
Puranas as something more common than we see nowadays. Things on the surface
seem to have changed since then, so much so that people thnk mysticism is
mythology or poppycock.
List members,
I was just reading The Awesome life Force on gravity, and doing some musing.
On pages 59 - 60, Cater mentions that: " The recognised electrons and
protons are made of photons of light in the ultrahigh frequency range of the
gamma rays."
Does science admit that the recognised electrons are of this frequency?
Then Cater says " It follows from this concept that electrons, comprised of
light in all frequency ranges below the gamma rays, must also exist in the
physical realm."
Well, doesn't science admit that light exists below gamma rays, or am I
showing my ignorance? Science must know that light exists below our
threshold of perception, so why is it so hard to convince anybody that low
frequency electrons and electron aggragates ( similar to magnetic domain
structures ) exist? Cater says that cosmic rays are low frequency photon
aggragates, right? ( soft particles ) I KNOW that science studies cosmic
rays, so why is it so hard to bring low frequency electrons to general
attention?
Cater offers substantiation for the existence of these lower frequency
photons. He calls upon the research of Wilhelm Reich, who discovered the
existence of lower frequency electrons, comprised of photons, Reich called
them Orgones and built a device which he called an Orgone accumulator to
trap them; experiments were carried out in dark rooms, with electroscopes,
and with devices in relation to clouds. This evidence, along with similar
research carried out by Baron Carl Von Reichenbach with magnets, is
presented very well in Mr. Cater's book.
It seems that this would be the first step, to explain about low frequency
electrons. From that point onwards, explaining how gravity is actually an
electrostatic force which attracts and repels is not so far away. ( and how
it is that, for example, clouds become imbued with electrostatic negative
charges and are repelled ).
This becomes the key to a tenable, hollow Earth model which explainsthe
various geological processes, IMHO.
Dean
From page 70 of Cater's book: "A major objection to the existence of giant
caverns deep inside the Earth covering millions of square miles, is that the
rooves should collapse, even in low gravity. The high concentrations of
combinations of soft particles ( negative charges ) inside these caverns
screen out gravity radiations far more effectively than solid matter.
Therefore, the rooves of these caverns have little or no gravity affecting
them."
I recognise this same analysis from the guide in Etidorhpa, only Cater has
explained it in terms of electrostatics.
Dean
What gas is contained in florescent light bulbs?
Dean
What gas is contained in florescent light bulbs?
Dean
mercury vapor.
Frode
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List members,
Here is a narration from the tenth canto of the Bhagavat Purana. It is about
a mystic yogini named Chitralekha, who exhibited the mystic
siddhi/perfection of levitation. Cater would explain that by elevating the
chakras, an " adept " is able to modulate the type of frequencies which
permeate his or her body. In the case of levitation, the gravity-inducing
frequencies are between the infrared and radar bands.
The only other things which I can conclude about this story is that you
ladies should brush up on your meditation techniques, quickly,
and that every girl, AND I MEAN EVERY GIRL, needs a friend like Chitralekha!
Here is the story:
" Banasura had a very beautiful daughter, whose name was Usa. When she had
attained the age of marriage and was sleeping amongst her many girl friends,
she dreamt one night that Aniruddha was by her side and that she was
enjoying a conjugal relationship with him, although she had never actually
seen him nor heard of him before. She awoke from her dream exclaiming very
loudly, "My dear beloved, where are you?" Being exposed to her other friends
in this way, she became a little bit ashamed. One of Usa's girl friends was
Citralekha, who was the daughter of Banasura's prime minister. Citralekha
and Usa were intimate friends, and out of great curiosity Citralekha asked,
"My dear beautiful princess, as of yet you are not married to any young boy,
nor have you seen any boys until now; so I am surprised that you are
exclaiming like this. Who are you searching after? Who is your suitable
match?"
On hearing Citralekha's inquiries, Usa replied, "My dear friend, in my dream
I saw a nice young man who is very, very beautiful. His complexion is
swarthy, his eyes are just like lotus petals, and he is dressed in yellow
garments. His arms are very long, and his general bodily features are so
pleasing that any young girl would be attracted. I feel much pride in saying
that this beautiful young man was kissing me, and I was very much enjoying
the nectar of his kissing. I am sorry to inform you that just after this he
disappeared, and I have been thrown into the whirlpool of disappointment. My
dear friend, I am very anxious to find this wonderful young man, the desired
lord of my heart."
After hearing Usa's words, Citralekha immediately replied, "I can understand
your bereavement, and I assure you that if this boy is within these three
worlds--the upper, middle and lower planetary systems--I must find him for
your satisfaction. If you can identify him from your dream, I shall bring
you peace of mind. Now, let me draw some pictures for you to inspect, and as
soon as you find the picture of your desired husband, let me know. It
doesn't matter where he is; I know the art of bringing him here. So, as soon
as you identify him, I shall immediately arrange for it."
Citralekha, while talking, began to draw many pictures of the demigods
inhabiting the higher planetary systems, then pictures of the Gandharvas,
Siddhas, Caranas, Pannagas, Daityas, Vidyadharas and Yaksas, as well as many
human beings. (The statements of Srimad-Bhagavatam and other Vedic
literature prove definitely that on each and every planet there are living
entities of different varieties. Therefore, it is foolish to assert that
there are no living entities but those on this earth.) Citralekha painted
many pictures. Among those of the human beings was the Vrsni dynasty,
including Vasudeva, the father of Krsna, Surasena, the grandfather of Krsna,
Sri Balaramaji, Lord Krsna and many others. When Usa saw the picture of
Pradyumna, she became a little bashful, but when she saw the picture of
Aniruddha, she became so bashful that she immediately lowered her head and
smiled, having found the man she was seeking. She identified the picture to
Citralekha as that of the man who had stolen her heart.
Citralekha was a great mystic yogini, and as soon as Usa identified the
picture, although neither of them had ever seen him nor knew his name,
Citralekha could immediately understand that the picture was of Aniruddha, a
grandson of Krsna. That very night, she traveled in outer space and within a
very short time reached the city of Dvaraka, which was well-protected by
Krsna. She entered the palace and found Aniruddha sleeping in his bedroom on
a very opulent bed. Citralekha, by her mystic power, immediately brought
Aniruddha, in that sleeping condition, to the city of Sonitapura so that Usa
might see her desired husband. Usa immediately bloomed in happiness and
began to enjoy the company of Aniruddha with great satisfaction.
The palace in which Usa and Citralekha lived was so well fortified that it
was impossible for any male to either enter or see inside. Usa and Aniruddha
lived together in the palace, and day after day the love of Usa for
Aniruddha grew four times upon four times. Usa pleased Aniruddha with her
valuable dresses, flowers, garlands, scents and incense. By his bedside
sitting place were other paraphernalia for residential purposes--nice drinks
such as milk and sherbet and nice eatables which could be chewed or
swallowed. Above all, she pleased him with sweet words and very obliging
service. Aniruddha was worshiped by Usa as if he were the Supreme
Personality of Godhead. By her excellent service, Usa made Aniruddha forget
all other things and was able to draw his attention and love upon her
without deviation. In such an atmosphere of love and service, Aniruddha
practically forgot himself and could not recall how many days he had been
away from his real home."
How 'bout that Usa? They don't make 'em like they used to.
The complete story is under chapter 62. http://www.krsnabook.com/contents/
Posted by Dean/Dharmapada
Hey All,
Cater mentions that the condenser-like discharges that build up in the inner
shell happen in fault lines and within caverns. But what about underground
reservoirs, like the one mentioned by the guide in Etidorhpa, which was 150
miles below sea-level? Doesn't water attract electricity, at least negative
charges?
Dean
A fission process is fueled by hyrdrogen, ipso facto?
And what fuels fusion?
Dean
All particles are a condensation of energy. You trap energy vibrations in a certain space, and then shrink that space, you will end up with a particle.
----- Original Message -----
From:
dean
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 4:46 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Low frequency electrons
`List members,
I was just reading The Awesome life Force on gravity, and doing some musing.
On pages 59 - 60, Cater mentions that: " The recognised electrons and
protons are made of photons of light in the ultrahigh frequency range of the
gamma rays."Does science admit that the recognised electrons are of this frequency?
Then Cater says " It follows from this concept that electrons, comprised of
light in all frequency ranges below the gamma rays, must also exist in the
physical realm."Well, doesn't science admit that light exists below gamma rays, or am I
showing my ignorance? Science must know that light exists below our
threshold of perception, so why is it so hard to convince anybody that low
frequency electrons and electron aggragates ( similar to magnetic domain
structures ) exist? Cater says that cosmic rays are low frequency photon
aggragates, right? ( soft particles ) I KNOW that science studies cosmic
rays, so why is it so hard to bring low frequency electrons to general
attention?Cater offers substantiation for the existence of these lower frequency
photons. He calls upon the research of Wilhelm Reich, who discovered the
existence of lower frequency electrons, comprised of photons, Reich called
them Orgones and built a device which he called an Orgone accumulator to
trap them; experiments were carried out in dark rooms, with electroscopes,
and with devices in relation to clouds. This evidence, along with similar
research carried out by Baron Carl Von Reichenbach with magnets, is
presented very well in Mr. Cater's book.It seems that this would be the first step, to explain about low frequency
electrons. From that point onwards, explaining how gravity is actually an
electrostatic force which attracts and repels is not so far away. ( and how
it is that, for example, clouds become imbued with electrostatic negative
charges and are repelled ).This becomes the key to a tenable, hollow Earth model which explainsthe
various geological processes, IMHO.Dean
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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Low frequency
electrons
All particles are a
condensation of energy. You trap energy vibrations in a certain
space, and then shrink that space, you will end up with a
particle.
And then! What is energy?
Frode
Deuteronomy 3:11 KJV
* For only Og king of Bashan remained of the remnant of giants ; behold his bedstead was a bedstead of iron; is it not in Rabbath of the children of Ammon? nine cubits (approx. 15 feet) was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.*
[ End of Onelight ]
I think this next quote suggests that Earthly dynasties were engendered from inner Earthers, who are always described with such stature:
Onelight:
Genesis 6:4
* There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became ** mighty men** which were of*
*** old, men of renown.***
List Members,
Here is a post from the webring's list. I think that it is pertinent here.
I don't want to get preachy. This is just my cultural reconcilliation
between Indo European culture, stretching from India to Northern Europe,
and the fact that Northern Europe is so close to the opening.
Dharmapada/Dean
The Hindu Webring -
Why can't one turn around and say that such and such
item in India is really named after something/someone
in Europe?
Aikya,
Now I think you're stumbling on to the " method of my madness." The article
I wrote about the Aryan invasion revisited is not just some cute connection
to the Hollow Earth Theory, I'm not taking advantage to put the HET in the
limelight. I really believe, and I state as much in that article, that India
is probably not the source of the Vedic culture, nor the point of contact on
the surface. As an example, although I accept the lilas which are narrated
in the Puranas, and though you might find some place in India where they say
the lila took place, that does not mean it is necessarily so. What if there
was colonization and they brought old names with them? How about York in
Great Britain and New York? I like to point out that in Sweeden, there is a
mountain chain called Sverge ( a point from P N Oaks ). Well, they are high
mountains and almost on the top of the world, also, so the name came from
Svarga Loka. The " loka " part probably fell off, and then the a changed to
e, which is not a big jump. Same race as in Northen India, same pantheon of
gods, more or less- Skanda, the god of war.
I imagine that India is just one point of the Vedic colonisation, the
colonisation started at some point by the prajapatis and demigods. The rest
seemed to have changed, gradually, after the end of the Mahabharat war. For
example, Rome, Greece, Scandanavia all are offshoots of that original
culture. But I am not saying that the culture originated in India. Just that
India seems to have conserved the tradtion well.
Why? Well, for geographical reasons, political reasons, etc. For example,
when the Christian armies went to Scandanavia, they were able to overwhelm
the culture. The great bulk of the literature of that region was wiped out,
along with the temples and deities. So the culture wasn't conserved- there
you have it, right there. Just the names of some mountains, some oral
traditions, the race of the people, etc.
On the India side of things, a lot was lost " absolutely," too. Afghanisthan
and Pakisthan were part of that culture, Persia was part of it too- now
there is practically no trace of the culture- IndoEuropean, Vedic, however
you want to call it. But you know, South India remained, the Himalayan
regions were difficult for conquerors to reach, and samples of the culture
remained which were able to reinforce the original culture after the Muslim
wars. But the culture is still being chipped away at, one way or the other,
and won't last forever on the surface.
At this point I'll bring up one of my typical points, the point of the Aryan
article, that I find it incongruent if one accepts one part of the
Vedic/Puranic statements and not others. If it is said that the Kalki avatar
will originate in the city of Shambala, in the interior, and that dharmic
culture will be renovated by men from the interior at the end of Kali Yuga,
then what would that imply. That India is the cradle of Vedic civilisation?
I think not.
The narration in relation to the sons of Sagara, Indra and the sacrificial
horse points out an opening into the interior " in the middle of a
Northern Sea ." And starting with Admiral Byrd, the Arctic explorers have
all noted warming phenomena near the Pole, Byrd making a comment about
Those warm lands beyond the pole." Warming, such as 50* winds in February,
warm-blooded mammals, typical air currents of volcanic ash which colors the
snow grey from horizon to horizon, pollen over vast stretches of Arctic ice,
too, all near the Pole, suggest that there might be more truth to the
statements that the Puranas make in regards to this " Northern opening
than we might imagine.
That would imply that Vedic culture did not originate in India at all, but
that it migrated out of the openings, and poured downwards from Scandanavia,
reaching, through that IndoEuropean race, script, culture, philosophy,
religious system, etc., as far across as India, at least.
If one is not comfortable with this perspective, ok, it might have been
different, but then we would have to address this business of Puranic
statements which say things that are hard to accept. I pretty much agree
with the rest of your statements; no need to reporduce them again.
I just want to reiterate that, in regards to Oaks, we don't want to throw
the baby out with the bath water. He makes connections, but I do admit that
he fights too much.
Dharmapada/Dean
Re: [allplanets-hollow] Low frequency electrons
All particles are a condensation of energy. You trap energy vibrations in a certain space, and then shrink that space, you will end up with a particle.
And then! What is energy?
Frode
Dean Writes:
So the first post is saying that energy is condensed ether, because ether is pure energy, right? When we disturb or " trap " ether, we get photons, and photons have charges, so after being disturbed or trapped, ether converts into electricity? Can I make that statement?
Dean
Re: [allplanets-hollow] Low frequency electrons
Energy is "motion,"
Motion is "change in space," and
Space is "viewpoint of dimension."
----- Original Message -----
From:
Frode
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 7:48 AM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Low frequency electrons
All particles are a condensation of energy. You trap energy vibrations in a certain space, and then shrink that space, you will end up with a particle.
And then! What is energy?
Frode
Why can't the Aryans be from Mars before Mars got destroyed in an Atomic holocaust?
You simply have to go a bit farther back in time.
Vinaire
----- Original Message -----
From:
dean
Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 12:33 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] India the Origin? Not!
`List Members,
Here is a post from the webring's list. I think that it is pertinent here.
I don't want to get preachy. This is just my cultural reconcilliation
between Indo European culture, stretching from India to Northern Europe,
and the fact that Northern Europe is so close to the opening.Dharmapada/Dean
The Hindu Webring -
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Rhodes/2066/webring/index.htmlWhy can't one turn around and say that such and such
item in India is really named after something/someone
in Europe?Aikya,
Now I think you're stumbling on to the " method of my madness." The article
I wrote about the Aryan invasion revisited is not just some cute connection
to the Hollow Earth Theory, I'm not taking advantage to put the HET in the
limelight. I really believe, and I state as much in that article, that India
is probably not the source of the Vedic culture, nor the point of contact on
the surface. As an example, although I accept the lilas which are narrated
in the Puranas, and though you might find some place in India where they say
the lila took place, that does not mean it is necessarily so. What if there
was colonization and they brought old names with them? How about York in
Great Britain and New York? I like to point out that in Sweeden, there is a
mountain chain called Sverge ( a point from P N Oaks ). Well, they are high
mountains and almost on the top of the world, also, so the name came from
Svarga Loka. The " loka " part probably fell off, and then the a changed to
e, which is not a big jump. Same race as in Northen India, same pantheon of
gods, more or less- Skanda, the god of war.I imagine that India is just one point of the Vedic colonisation, the
colonisation started at some point by the prajapatis and demigods. The rest
seemed to have changed, gradually, after the end of the Mahabharat war. For
example, Rome, Greece, Scandanavia all are offshoots of that original
culture. But I am not saying that the culture originated in India. Just that
India seems to have conserved the tradtion well.Why? Well, for geographical reasons, political reasons, etc. For example,
when the Christian armies went to Scandanavia, they were able to overwhelm
the culture. The great bulk of the literature of that region was wiped out,
along with the temples and deities. So the culture wasn't conserved- there
you have it, right there. Just the names of some mountains, some oral
traditions, the race of the people, etc.On the India side of things, a lot was lost " absolutely," too. Afghanisthan
and Pakisthan were part of that culture, Persia was part of it too- now
there is practically no trace of the culture- IndoEuropean, Vedic, however
you want to call it. But you know, South India remained, the Himalayan
regions were difficult for conquerors to reach, and samples of the culture
remained which were able to reinforce the original culture after the Muslim
wars. But the culture is still being chipped away at, one way or the other,
and won't last forever on the surface.At this point I'll bring up one of my typical points, the point of the Aryan
article, that I find it incongruent if one accepts one part of the
Vedic/Puranic statements and not others. If it is said that the Kalki avatar
will originate in the city of Shambala, in the interior, and that dharmic
culture will be renovated by men from the interior at the end of Kali Yuga,
then what would that imply. That India is the cradle of Vedic civilisation?
I think not.The narration in relation to the sons of Sagara, Indra and the sacrificial
horse points out an opening into the interior " in the middle of a
Northern Sea ." And starting with Admiral Byrd, the Arctic explorers have
all noted warming phenomena near the Pole, Byrd making a comment about
Those warm lands beyond the pole." Warming, such as 50* winds in February,
warm-blooded mammals, typical air currents of volcanic ash which colors the
snow grey from horizon to horizon, pollen over vast stretches of Arctic ice,
too, all near the Pole, suggest that there might be more truth to the
statements that the Puranas make in regards to this " Northern opening
than we might imagine.That would imply that Vedic culture did not originate in India at all, but
that it migrated out of the openings, and poured downwards from Scandanavia,
reaching, through that IndoEuropean race, script, culture, philosophy,
religious system, etc., as far across as India, at least.If one is not comfortable with this perspective, ok, it might have been
different, but then we would have to address this business of Puranic
statements which say things that are hard to accept. I pretty much agree
with the rest of your statements; no need to reporduce them again.I just want to reiterate that, in regards to Oaks, we don't want to throw
the baby out with the bath water. He makes connections, but I do admit that
he fights too much.Dharmapada/Dean
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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Low frequency electrons
Frode,
Can I ask you something?
The name Scandanavia: what is the origin? Is it named after a Viking god named Scanda, who was a god of war?
Is there/was there such a god?
Or does Scandanavia derive from the Latin verb Scandere, " to climb?"
Dean