Atantis Found by Clive Cussler

I happened to see this new release in paper back tonight and picked it up. I have not read it yet, but I do find it curious that books seem to be born when many people are curious about the subject, although most times the books are fiction. It seems this book was first released in 1999 and did not do much, now it is #1 bestseller. I will write down the first paragraph in the 6 sections of the book. You can take it from there to see if it sparks your interest. Perhaps some of you have read it? Leslee

IMPACT

7120 BC

**What is now Hudson Bay, Canada----**sketch of Comet Impact on Hudson Bay. Pg. 1

The intruders came from beyond. A nebulous celestial body as old as the universe itself, it had been born in a vast cloud of ice, rocks, dust and gas when the outer planets of the solar system were formed 4.6 billion years ago. Soon after its scattered particles had frozen into a solid mass one mile in diameter, it began streaking silently through the emptiness of space on an orbital voyage that carried it around a distant sun and halfway to the nearest stars again, a journey lasting many thousand years.

Ghost Ship

September 30, 1858

**Stefansson Bay, Antarctica--**Sketch of a Ship--Icebound British Indiaman Pg. 11

Roxanna Mender knew that is she stopped walking she would die. She was near complete exhaustion and moving on willpower alone. The Temperature was well below zero, but it was a windchill from the frigid teeth of the ice gate that was biting through her skin. The deadly drowsiness gently slipping over her was slowly draining her will to live. She moved forward, one foot groping ahead of the other, stumbling when caught off balance by a sudden break in the ice field. Her breath came in rapid, rasping panting of a mountain climber struggling toward a peak in the Himalayas without oxygen equipment.

Her vision was nonexistent as the icy windblown particles swirled in front of her face, protected by a thick woolen scarf wrapped inside her fur-lined parka. Though she only squinted between layers of the scarf every other minute, her eyes were sore and reddened from the onslaught of the tiny granules. Frustration gripped Roxanna when she looked u and saw the dazzling blue sky and brilliant sun above the storm. Blinding ice storms under clear skies were not uncommon phenomenon in Antarctica.

Part One

**As Close To Hell As You Can Get---**Sketch of Amenes Alphabetic and Numeric Inscriptions Pg. 31

March 22, 2001

Pandora, Colorado

THE WANING STARS IN the early-morning sky blazed like a theater marquee when seen from 9000 feet above sea level. But it was the moon that had a ghostly look about it as Luis Marquex stepped from his little wooden house. It wore a curios orange halo that he had never seen before. He peered at the odd phenomenon for a few moments before walking across the yard to his 1973 Chevy Cheyenne 4x4 pickup truck.

Part Two

**In The Footprints of the Ancients---**Sketch of South Polar Region pg. 109

March 27, 2001

Okuma Bay, Antarctica

CAPTAIN DANIEL GILLESPIE STOOD on the huge glass-enclosed bridge of the Polar Storm and stared through the tinted-lens binoculars at the ice that was building around the eight-thousand-ton research icebreakers hull. Lean as an aspen tree plotting a course in his mind for the easiest passage to take the Polar Storm. The autumn ice had formed early in the Ross Sea. In some places, it was already two feet thick, with ridges rising to three.

The ship trembles under his feet as its great bulbous bow rammed the ice and them heaved up and over the white surface. Then the weight of the forward part of the ship crushed the pack into piano-sized portions that tore at the paint in the hull as they groaned and scraped against the steel plates until they were chopped to small chunks by the ships huge twelve-foot propellers and were left bobbing in the ships wake. The process was repeated until they reached a part of the sea a few miles off the continent where the ice pack had been slow to thicken.

Part Three

**Twenty-First-Century-Ark---**Sketch of Flight Path of Pitts Skycar (Wolfs Shipyard in Chili>>>Santa Cruz, Argentina) pg. 230

April 4, 2001

Buenos Aires, Argentina

PREMIER OPERA HOUSES THROUGHOUT the world are judged by singers and musicians for their acoustics, the quality f sound that carries from the stage to the box seats and then o the gallery far up in the stratosphere. To the opera lovers who buy the tickets they are ranked and admired more for their elegance and flamboyance. Some are noted for the baroqueness. But none can hold a candle to the unmatched grandiloquence of the Teatro Colon on the Avenida 9 de Julio in Buenos Aires.

Part Four

**City Under The Ice---**Sketch of Route of the Snowcruiser (Okuma Bay>>>Little America located on edges of Ross Ice Shelf & Ross Sea) Pg. 364

April 10, 2001

Buenos Aires, Argentina

LIMOUSINES FORMED A LONG arc on the circular drive of the British Embassy in Buenos Aires. Ladies in ball gowns and men in tuxedos exited in long black cars and entered through high bronze doors into the foyer, where they were met by the British ambassador to Argentina, a tall, severe woman with white hair cut in a pageboy. The social event of the year was a celebration in the honor of Prince Charles's elevation to the throne, finally abdicated by his mother, Queen Elizabeth.

Part Five

**Ashes, Ashes, All Fall Down---**pg. 512

April 15, 2001

Washington, D. C,

When the military passenger aircraft sent to bring Pitt, Giordino, and the relics from Okuma Bay to Washington landed at the airport in Veracruz, Mexico, Pitt questioned the pilot and was told that Admiral Sandecker had sent a NUMA executive jet to carry them the rest of the way. Sweating in the heat and humidity, they hauled the bronze box to the turquoise aircraft with the big NUMA letters on the fuselage that was parked a good hundred yards away.

Part Six

**Final Blessing---**526

September 10, 2002

Washington, D. C.

THE DAY WAS TYPICAL for the nation's capitol, the climate hot and sultry. The leaves hung green no their branches and the cool breeze of coming fall was nowhere to be felt. Crowds of people were standing in long lines to view the recently opened wing of the Natural History Museum, which housed more then 3000 Amenes treasures and articles that had been recovered from St. Paul island, the Ulrich Wolf, and the opening excavation of the lost city in the Antarctic.

POSTSCRIPT: Pg. 531

In 1960, archaeologists discovered the ancient bones of a woman on Santa Rosa, one of the channel islands off California. After she lay in the basement of the Santa Barbara Museum for 40 years, a team of scientists conducted sophisticated DNA and radiocarbon tests on the skeletal remains. Results revealed the bones to be as old as thirteen thousand years, making the lady the oldest known human skeleton found in North America.

During the era in which she lived, the lady would have seen glaciers the size of Australia, wooly mammoths, and saber-tooth-tigers, and she could have walked from island to island since the sea level was 360 feet lower than it is today. Her discovery challenged traditional theories that the first people to live in the Americas came across the land bridge over what is now the Bering Sea between Siberia and Alaska.

The Spirit Caveman, as another human relic is called, lived more than 9,400 years ago n Western Nevada and has a cranial profile that suggests his origins are Japanese or East Asian. The Wizard's Beach Man, whose skull was also found in Nevada, closely resembles both the Norse and the Polynesians. Other skulls found in Nebraska and Minnesota, all at least eight-thousand years old, resemble both European and South Asia.

It is known that people traveled by boats from southern Asia to Australia more than forty thousand years ago, so sea travel is hardly an invention of civilizations around the Mediterranean. The seas beckoned ancient mariners, who explored and discovered far more of the world that they were given credit for, and whose history is only now being written.

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Leslee,

Atlantis Found is the name of the book, huh? Interesting. Yes, I think that we are being prepared for something. Either UFOs, the hollow Earth, or cavern worlds.

DD

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POSTSCRIPT: Pg. 531

In 1960, archaeologists discovered the ancient bones of a woman on Santa Rosa, one of the channel islands off California. After she lay in the basement of the Santa Barbara Museum for 40 years, a team of scientists conducted sophisticated DNA and radiocarbon tests on the skeletal remains. Results revealed the bones to be as old as thirteen thousand years, making the lady the oldest known human skeleton found in North America.

During the era in which she lived, the lady would have seen glaciers the size of Australia, wooly mammoths, and saber-tooth-tigers, and she could have walked from island to island since the sea level was 360 feet lower than it is today. Her discovery challenged traditional theories that the first people to live in the Americas came across the land bridge over what is now the Bering Sea between Siberia and Alaska.

The Spirit Caveman, as another human relic is called, lived more than 9,400 years ago n Western Nevada and has a cranial profile that suggests his origins are Japanese or East Asian. The Wizard's Beach Man, whose skull was also found in Nevada, closely resembles both the Norse and the Polynesians. Other skulls found in Nebraska and Minnesota, all at least eight-thousand years old, resemble both European and South Asia.

It is known that people traveled by boats from southern Asia to Australia more than forty thousand years ago, so sea travel is hardly an invention of civilizations around the Mediterranean. The seas beckoned ancient mariners, who explored and discovered far more of the world that they were given credit for, and whose history is only now being written.

Posted by Dharma/Dean

OPEN WA'I'ER AND WARMER

  Now there is testimony of the most unimpeachable character and it is as plain as it is unimpeachable. There is no misunderstanding it. We find Greely ten degrees farther north than Lieutenant Ray, finding not merely that the winds and waters were warmer than further south but that this warmth was so constant that the ground thawed to a depth of thirty feet. We find that whenever water flowed from the north pole it was warmer than when it flowed from the south. We find that there is no sea of "ancient ice" as Nares and explorers before him thought but that there is an open polar basin with strong currents. Now if that open water that stopped Greely were only a small sea that did not extend very far, there would be no such currents in it as are described above. Those currents testify to the fact that herE is a sea which does extend to the northern regions. Of course Greely could not imagine how those warm currents could come from the north and he could not account for the strong currents in the sea. But our~reader, who remembers the conformation of the polar regions, can easily see how these things would be.       The water inside the polar orifices, warmed       by the inner sun, would naturally form a very strong current as it met the cooler waters of the outside polar regions. Quite as naturally that water would keep clear from ice the great polar sea. Ice from the south could only come up to a certain point‑the point where Greely and other discoverers found "open water‑‑and after that the sea would get warmer and warmer. It is interesting to note that one of the people interviewed in regard to the Greelv discoveries at the same time as the other speeches and interviexvs were made, which we have quoted, said that further Arctic exploration had better be postponed until air ships could be built with which to undertake it. Well, at the time that may not have sounded like a practical suggestion, but it is now a thing of the very near future. And we shall see then just what one would expect from the observations made by Greely. For there is only one possible explanation for them, and that is the explanation given in this book

Leslee,

What do you think of Cater's points in that post The Size of Mars? Revolutionary, isn't he?

Dharma/Dean

Frode,

Take your time on the comments, Lamprecht's book has a lot of info to digest.

DD

Leslee,

What do you think of Cater's points in that post The Size of Mars? Revolutionary, isn't he?

Dharma/Dean

Hi Dean--I read your post, which triggered Cater's mention of the large size of Mars in his book. I was not able to write these fact from memory like you did, but took the segment from the book and posted it here. This is good, typing it out will make me remember it! The way he figured out the Size by observing photos from Mars was so simple, yet he was the one who "got" it.

Cater's Book--chapter 15 --The New Cosmology

Cater: If a satellite is very small as is the case with Mars' satellites, a planetary diameter can be calculated with a high degree of accuracy. In fact, Mars is the only planet in the solar system whose diameter can be reliably determined from the following relations:

v2 = (_r)2 g 2Pd = t

d ( d) v

Where d is the radius of the orbit in miles, r is the radius of the planet in miles. The diameter is 2r, g is the acceleration of Earth gravity in terms of miles per hour, t is the period of the orbit in hours, and v is the velocity in miles per hour, the others can be readily determined. The results are quite astonishing. Mars turns out to have a diameter of about 11,300 miles.

Recent confirmations that the 11,300 mile calculated diameter for Mars is valid, has been unwittingly supplied by NASA. Measurements of surface detail by radar can be accurately determined. They show the diameter of the great volcano, Olympus Mons is about 375 miles and the diameter of other giant volcanoes is in the vicinity of 400 km or 250 miles. Included in surface detail measurements is a great rift valley 2,800 miles long. Radar pictures of the entire planet, including these prominent landmarks show that the diameter of Mars is indeed over 11,000 miles. Perhaps the most accurate yard stick is the great rift valley whose length is slightly less that 1/4 the diameter of the planet! A radar picture of Mars, including this rift valley and one of the 250-diameter volcanoes appeared in the January 1985 issue of National geographic.

(Cater also states that Mars is Red in color due to its density) Chapter 15 covers quite an amount of information, the Moon and Venus are discussed, along with UFO's and other phenomenon.

I think the man is pure genius, but he keeps his explanations simple. Each chapter builds from the last. I keeping reading his book over and over. In addition to the above, I also went back over chapter 4, where Cater figures the Hollow conditions of the Moon far more pronounced than Earth. And, that is the reason the Moon is able to be held in orbit. Cater also speculates that this is probably due to a very thin shell of only 100 miles or less. The critical thin shell would account for the anomalies on the Moon, and variations in just a few miles in the thickness of the Moon's shell would account for the noticeable differences of surface gravity. And, how, all planets must be Hollow for the Sun's gravity to keep them in orbit--and this makes more sense to me than planets being a solid core. I just can't see how, if they were solid, they would remain spinning.

I am wondering-- does the pronounced Hollow conditions of the Moon, holds true for all planets? Can we say that the size the planet, along with the gravitational pull of the planet, determine the Hollow conditions for that particular planet?

Last time I read Ch. 4 I missed Cater's explanation that asteroids also have gravity and an orbital moon, which science knows now, but I didn't. So, it is a book that one studies like any reference book. I am more aware of his mention of Etidorhpa more and more, and am anxiously awaiting my book. I would like to read the two of them together, especially since Cater refers to Etidorhpa so often.

Everyone who is interested in the HE theory should study Caters "The Ultimate Reality", as it sure brings everything into focus, at least for me.

In Spirit, Leslee

PS---For all you mom's out there, Have a Great Mother's Day!

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Leslee,

What do you think of Cater's points in that post The Size of Mars? Revolutionary, isn't he?

Dharma/Dean

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A cross post-

Hi Dean--I read your post, which triggered Cater's mention of the large size of Mars in his book. I was not able to write these fact from memory like you did, but took the segment from the book and posted it here. This is good, typing it out will make me remember it! The way he figured out the Size by observing photos from Mars was so simple, yet he was the one who "got" it.

Cater's Book--chapter 15 --The New Cosmology

Cater: If a satellite is very small as is the case with Mars' satellites, a planetary diameter can be calculated with a high degree of accuracy. In fact, Mars is the only planet in the solar system whose diameter can be reliably determined from the following relations:

v2 = (_r)2 g 2Pd = t

d ( d) v

Where d is the radius of the orbit in miles, r is the radius of the planet in miles. The diameter is 2r, g is the acceleration of Earth gravity in terms of miles per hour, t is the period of the orbit in hours, and v is the velocity in miles per hour, the others can be readily determined. The results are quite astonishing. Mars turns out to have a diameter of about 11,300 miles.

Recent confirmations that the 11,300 mile calculated diameter for Mars is valid, has been unwittingly supplied by NASA. Measurements of surface detail by radar can be accurately determined. They show the diameter of the great volcano, Olympus Mons is about 375 miles and the diameter of other giant volcanoes is in the vicinity of 400 km or 250 miles. Included in surface detail measurements is a great rift valley 2,800 miles long. Radar pictures of the entire planet, including these prominent landmarks show that the diameter of Mars is indeed over 11,000 miles. Perhaps the most accurate yard stick is the great rift valley whose length is slightly less that 1/4 the diameter of the planet! A radar picture of Mars, including this rift valley and one of the 250-diameter volcanoes appeared in the January 1985 issue of National geographic.

(Cater also states that Mars is Red in color due to its density) Chapter 15 covers quite an amount of information, the Moon and Venus are discussed, along with UFO's and other phenomenon.

I think the man is pure genius, but he keeps his explanations simple. Each chapter builds from the last. I keeping reading his book over and over. In addition to the above, I also went back over chapter 4, where Cater figures the Hollow conditions of the Moon far more pronounced than Earth. And, that is the reason the Moon is able to be held in orbit. Cater also speculates that this is probably due to a very thin shell of only 100 miles or less. The critical thin shell would account for the anomalies on the Moon, and variations in just a few miles in the thickness of the Moon's shell would account for the noticeable differences of surface gravity. And, how, all planets must be Hollow for the Sun's gravity to keep them in orbit--and this makes more sense to me than planets being a solid core. I just can't see how, if they were solid, they would remain spinning.

I am wondering-- does the pronounced Hollow conditions of the Moon, holds true for all planets? Can we say that the size the planet, along with the gravitational pull of the planet, determine the Hollow conditions for that particular planet?

Last time I read Ch. 4 I missed Cater's explanation that asteroids also have gravity and an orbital moon, which science knows now, but I didn't. So, it is a book that one studies like any reference book. I am more aware of his mention of Etidorhpa more and more, and am anxiously awaiting my book. I would like to read the two of them together, especially since Cater refers to Etidorhpa so often.

Everyone who is interested in the HE theory should study Caters "The Ultimate Reality", as it sure brings everything into focus, at least for me.

In Spirit, Leslee

PS---For all you mom's out there, Have a Great Mother's Day!

Leslee Wrote:

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I am wondering-- does the pronounced Hollow conditions of the Moon, holds true for all planets? Can we say that the size the planet, along with the gravitational pull of the planet, determine the Hollow conditions for that particular planet?

Dean Writes:

I know that he says this is the case of Mars BECAUSE Mars has no polar orifices. It has polar depressions and two monster crevices in the Northern one, but no appreciable openings. Therefore, the light of the inner sun is able to radiate back out through the shell, and some type of redistribution of frequency is probably a part of the proccess, or maybe it is low enough in frequncy, by the time it gets radiated back out by the inner sun, to pass right through.

Venus seems to have large orifices which ventilate the planet. A NASA study called Vortex studies the depressive vortex at the Northern polar area of the planet while a huge expression can be seen pouring out of the Southern opening to such an extent that the curvature of the planet gets disturbed. This can be seen in NASA picture 79-HC-46, second one down: http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index4.html Sure as heck the planet is hollow, and the wind gets sucked in through the North and expelled through the South. just look at that picture- knowing that there is even a depressive vortex at the North, what else are you going to conclude?

In terms of shell thickness, though, it seems like every planet gets a different design.

Dharma/Dean

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We've been talking about how a soft particle medium the cosmos refracts light and makes astronomical objects appear smaller and farther away than they are. Well, by saying " soft particle medium " I am simply referring to what are known as the cosmic rays. Their composition is not completely known, but soft particles make up a lot of it.

By the way, the light from stellar objects also gets refracted and they appear farther away than they really are.

My goodness!

Dharma/Dean