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Dean,

Again, I must point out that the mention of an aperture that is X
miles wide is not descriptive.
In the Multi program in my 2D and 3D section, I define not only the
longitude and latitude of the
opening, but, the depth of the shell and the eccentricity of the cross
section. I take it that you are
considering the widest portion of the hole. You have to realize that a
hole that is only 2 or 3
hundred miles across at it widest part will over the course of a minimum
of an 800 mile thick
shell be extremely eccentric in its cross section. This language is
ambiguous and it makes me
frown each time I see such terms which are so open to multiple
interpretations. Accuracy is
important because a hole that was 300 miles apart at its narrowest cross
section would be not
possible in my opinion and others might dismiss HE notions that are so
far beyond the scope of
possibility. I, for one, don't believe that the hole is as wide as the
one that Gardner first implied
in his book on the subject.

Scott

On Sat, 26 May 2001 10:06:44 -0300 "Dean De Lucia" [email protected]
writes:
Leslee/JanJM,

That Artic map was a very simple one. Maybe that's why it jumped out to
me how there is so much area on the other side of the Pole, there is
nothing which clutters up the map. Actually, you can see it on the map
which I use on the Arctic site, at the very bottom:

There is just a lot of space on the other side, a lot of space to hide an
opening in, even one a few hundred miles wide.

DD

Related thread: Shambhala access — Part of the 'Arctic map' exchange of 26-27 May 2001

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Original subject: Aperture of ???

Scott,

I understand your point. My underdstanding of the size and location of the opening is rather rule of thumb. Better to be exact and descriptive. I would be, except that I am not sure, personally, about the width. I do feel rather strongly about the location being 85* North and 141* West, as Rod M. Cluff has previously pointed out in his article The Size and Location of the Polar Opening: http://www.ourhollowearth.com/PolarOpn.htm And I personally feel that the opening stretches, from that point, towards Elizabeth Island where the North magnetic Pole is.

Mr. Cater feels that the width at the neck is 600 miles, and he presents a whole logic to support this, although I would have to look for it ( it's a big book ).

Gardner said 1,400 miles wide. I don't think that he explained much, he didn't openly distinguish between width at the neck of the opening and width as defined as being from outer rim to outer rim. I doubt his figure as being the width at the neck.

In the past I felt uncomfortable about a wide opening because I could never satisfactorily explain the fact that we don't typically see any light beams shooting through, Arctic night or whenever. But the idea of an inner atmosphere largely characterized by soft particles would account for this. Since soft particles reflect light, the bottleneck at the opening would tend to supress the light back downwards.

On the list I do speak in general terms, although I admit that we have to be prepared to define width.

DD

Dean,

Again, I must point out that the mention of an aperture that is X miles wide is not descriptive.
In the Multi program in my 2D and 3D section, I define not only the longitude and latitude of the
opening, but, the depth of the shell and the eccentricity of the cross section. I take it that you are
considering the widest portion of the hole. You have to realize that a hole that is only 2 or 3
hundred miles across at it widest part will over the course of a minimum of an 800 mile thick
shell be extremely eccentric in its cross section. This language is ambiguous and it makes me
frown each time I see such terms which are so open to multiple interpretations. Accuracy is
important because a hole that was 300 miles apart at its narrowest cross section would be not
possible in my opinion and others might dismiss HE notions that are so far beyond the scope of
possibility. I, for one, don't believe that the hole is as wide as the one that Gardner first implied
in his book on the subject.

Scott

Related thread: Shambhala access — Part of the 'Arctic map' exchange of 26-27 May 2001

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Now I have it divided into an Etidorhpa 1 and Etidorhpa 2. I'll do it in about three or four parts. Rightnow, Etidorhpa 1 downloads real fast.

On the page where it was all on the same page, I noticed that I had chapters 12 and 13 posted twice in a row.

DD

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Rose,

Since you are new on the list, let me ask you a question: Are you familiar with Etidorhpa? How do you feel about it?

Dharma/Dean

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Dear Dean,

Haven't read Etidorpha yet, had set it in my mind for a
future study......am currently (time permitting) going through
the Inner Earth Mysteries by David Pratt.

Have also been interested in the Richard Shaver controversy
introduced during the Ray Palmer days.

Will be in and out most of today. Will try to write later.

Love, Rose

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Thanks Dean,

I agree with all your latest comments. I don't wish to appear
over critical of such statements and I am not. As long as we realize
that we are speaking in general "ball park" figures I feel satisfied.

On another matter, I see that a woman that has been interested
or at least knowledgeable of the hollow earth theory since the 1950's
has written to your list. Do you have her e-mail address. I take a
particular interest in people that have been long time believers of the
theory since it lends perspective to the general interest and enthusiasm
that I have. One can never know but such contacts might provide
one with some unexpected insights that have slipped through the
cracks for those who have come to the subject in more recent time
frames.

Scott

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Hello Scott,

I presume you're referring to myself as the woman who has been interested
since the 1950's. What is it you would like to know?

Mine has been a long, arduous journey into knowledge, and I'm not done
yet......have also been a fervent student of the esotreic sciences. These
have taken up most of my free time.

I have issues of Fate magazine from 1950 on to the present, also have one
issue from 1949, but it's not in good shape. I believe Ray Palmer began
the hollow earth theory about that time.....don't know if I have any Amazing
Stories copies left. Found the theory very plausible and haven't had any
reason to think otherwise.

Love, Rose

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Scott,

You are referring to Rose- she is on the list. She will read your request.

I myself am curious to know what it was like believing in the Hollow Earth
Theory back in the 50s and 60s. How did the word get spread around, who were
the torch bearers?

About the measurements, I think that you always want to let the other list
members know what the opposing arguments would be from the scientific
community, and how we should be prepared to relate with that community.
Speaking in terms of measurements would certainly be a first step.

Dean

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http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/inner1.htm

The inner earth mystery has been part of the Ageless Wisdom Teachings.......H.P. Blavatsky began to divulge the Mysteries during the last quarter of the 1800's, in the books Isis Unveiled, and
the Secret Doctrine

If you willl visit the above website, you may have a pleasant surprise.

Happy hunting, let me know what you think.

Love, Rose

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Rose,

Oh, you mean the David Pratt site. We've seen it, and I think it is a good one. I especially like his gravity section, and I picked up a few new things in his legends section. We don't exactly see eye to eye on the Arctic stuff, but that's no biggie. All of us on this list have some differences of opinion, or certain ideas, I'm sure.

DD

Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Aperture of ???

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/dp5/inner1.htm

The inner earth mystery has been part of the Ageless Wisdom Teachings.......H.P. Blavatsky began to divulge the Mysteries during the last quarter of the 1800's, in the books Isis Unveiled, and
the Secret Doctrine

If you willl visit the above website, you may have a pleasant surprise.

Happy hunting, let me know what you think.

Love, Rose

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List Members,

Attached above, Mr. Cater makes some interesting comments in the sixth chapter in relation to the book etidorhpa, and the structure of the inner shell, such as the moho discontinuity.

http://www.healthresearchbooks.com/Authors/joseph_cater.htm

DD

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