Arctic Ice

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Some good logic is brought up here by Olaf Jansen, in relation to Arctic ice.

Posted by DD

" Some of the rivers "within," Olaf Jansen claims, are larger than our Mississippi and Amazon rivers combined, in point of volume of water carried; indeed their greatness is occasioned by their width and depth rather than their length, and it is at the mouths of these mighty rivers, as they flow northward and southward along the inside surface of the earth, that mammoth icebergs are found, some of them fifteen and twenty miles wide and from forty to one hundred miles in length.

Is it not strange that there has never been an iceberg encountered either in the Arctic or Antarctic Ocean that is not composed of fresh water? Modern scientists claim that freezing eliminates the salt, but Olaf Jansen claims differently."

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Are the planets hollow?

Why wouldn’t they be? Think about their round shapes. It was centrifugal force that sculpted them. That force was greater at the equators, so they all bulge at the equators. Going towards the poles, that force would have progressively diminished, such that the outline of the planets would have gradually inclined inwards until, at the poles, there would have been no curvature. The crust at the poles would be very thin because the centrifugal force at the poles would have been very little; the matter there would have slid down and concentrated itself at equator and reinforced the crust there.

As the outer crust cooled, any pent up force within the planet would have most likely expressed itself by blowing out through the axial ( polar ) points and forming openings. ( Does our planet have polar openings? ) This seems to be what is indicated by the huge, crater-like depressions at the tops of the planets which we can observe. The outer rim or collar of such openings could be a tell-tale sign of such an outburst from the interior which happened long, long ago during the formative stages.

What I am saying is that the same force which sculpted the outer shape of the planet, that centrifugal force, would have had to have opened up a cavity within the planet. The force could not have had such a dramatic impact on the exterior of the planet, with none at the core. Because the centrigfugal force was not evenly distributed, the interior cavity would have the shape of a football/rugby ball, with the points edging up towards the poles.

The cavity can’t have a liquid interior. If it had, the tidal force exerted by the Moon would have induced the liquid interior to bust through any crust just as soon as such crust could have formed by cooling. And it can’t be full of molten lava because the Earth has a magnetic field. The magnetic fields touch the poles and the Earth serves as a conductor to close the circuit. If the inner core of the Earth had the temperatures which the Molten Core Theory stipulates that it does, then any magnetic properties would be lost as heat destroys magnetism. And it doesn’t take too much heat- this point is called the Curie Point. So the existence of the Earth’s magnetic field indicates that the core is not molten nor hot.

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Frode,

I changed that section in my latest essay on the site, the one about Ether Science, according to your tip- I read up on chapter two of Cater's book.

http://skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index11.html

Maybe you will like the following section more. I took out that other part.

Dean

Here it is:

The following points culled from Chapter two of Joseph H. Cater's book The Awesome Life Force shines some light on the matter of the perception of ether:

" The Michelson-Morely experiments were devised to detect the presence of ether, but negative results were always obtained. The negative results of the experiments actually disproved the concept that light is propagated in the form of transeverse waves through ether. Not that light isn’t propagated through ether, and not that there is no ether, just that light is not propagated in the form of transverse waves through ether.

The fact that a body can travel through space at a constant velocity and encounter no measureable resistance simply means that matter has no attraction for ether which can be perceived.

It could have been concluded that the transverse wave concept is not necessary to account for the diffraction and interference effects of light, and simply that light wasn’t being transmitted through ether in the manner assumed.

But rather than arriving at such honest and straight-forward conclusions, the absurd conclusion that the velocity of light is independent of the velocity of its source, or that of the observer, was invented. This violates the principle of relative velocities which we encounter in all of our existence."

[ Cater comments paraphrased ]

The conclusions derived from the Michelson-Morely experiment constitute a case not of doubting the experiment, but rather, the interpretation of the experiment.

So we have it on the good authority of Shree Krishna that ethers do exist, and we can take any interpretations to the contrary with a grain of salt.

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Re: [allplanetshollow] Why the interpretations
from th

Frode,
I changed that
section in my latest essay on the site, the one about Ether Science,
according to your tip- I read up on chapter two of Cater's
book.
http://skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index11.html
Maybe you
will like the following section more. I took out that other
part.
Dean
Much better! :slight_smile:

Frode

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This is probably from Rod's site:

In Daines Barrington's book, ON THE POSSIBILITY OF APPROACHING THE NORTH POLE, we read that driftwood is driven on the north coast of Iceland which could come from no other quarter than the north, but that among other fresh pieces whole trees were found which yet had their buds on them something which would have been absolutely impossible if this wood had drifted long distances from southern climes. It is obvious that a very few months in salt water would kill the buds, but here were trees which had evidently been growing only a short time before, And he further tells us that observers in Spitzbergen have always noticed that in spring, just before the hatching season, the wild ducks, geese, and other birds, fly in a northerly direction. There is also a heavy fall migration to the north.

Posted by Dean

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Re: [allplanetshollow] Why the interpretations from th
I’ve been musing over Cater’s writings on gravity, and on how gravity is formed and functions. He writes that

" The greatest contributing factor to Earth and Moon gravity is the tranformation of radiation resulting from the thermal agitation of atoms and molecules. [ I posted Cater’s description of this process in a previous post, but I’ll include the pertinent part at the bottom of this post again ] The particles resulting from this activity are comprised of lower frequency photons. Such radiation is more readily transformed into gravity-inducing radiations, because it is closer to this frequency band to begin with. A significant portion of such radiation, originating miles below the surface, is transformed into gravity-producing energies by the time it reaches the surface.

Most of the Moon and Earth gravity radiations are created in the first fifty miles of their crusts. Below that level, much of the energy from the Sun has been transformed into softer particles, and the material of the Earth and Moon is permeated with them.

These soft particles will screen out gravity radiations more effectively than solid matter because the ethers they are associated with are closer in frequency to those of the gravity radiations. The reason Moon gravity is nearly equal to Earth gravity now becomes apparent. At the same time, it is clear why the famed Cavendish experiment for determining the so-called gravitational constant was misleading. There wasn’t enough material in the bodies used in the experiment to produce any transformations of radiations. The gravitational effects produced by the bodies were due entirely to thermal agitation of the molecules without transformations. The thermal agitation of molecules produces infrared frequencies and only an infintessimal portion of this radiated energy is in the gravity-producing frequency range. ... It is significant that some of the Cavendish experiments indicated gravity effects varied with the temperature. "

Here is something else from Cater indicating that the Moon and the Earth have similar gravities, although the how and why was just explained. This following piece was posted once before, months ago:

" The anemic jumping feats of the astronauts under alleged, one-sixth Earth gravity, as shown on the telecasts, represent only part of the evidence of a high moon gravity. The consistent reports of the point where the space ships entered the gravitational influence of the moon indicated moon gravity comparable to that of the Earth. If the Moon's surface gravity were only one-sixth earth gravity, this point of entry, or the point where the gravitational influence of the moon exceeds that of Earth, would be approximately 22,000 miles from the moon. This can easily be confirmed by elementary mathematics and mechanics and will not be given here. The distance will vary slightly percentagewise because the Moon’s distance from the Earth fluctuates. Since the advent of the Apollo missions, the distance reported reported for this point of entry has been consistently much greater than 22,000 miles. The distances claimed by various writers, as well as the media, have varied from about 39,000 to nearly 44,000 m

iles.

This is, indeed, incredible since it contradicts the consistent claims of a low moon gravity. Interestingly enough, prior to the space program, this distance was always given in the 20,000 to 22,000 range, corresponding to one-sixth Earth gravity of the Moon. It can be found in a number of earlier textbooks, including Encyclopedia Britannica. Yet, the later editions of Encyclopedia Britannica put this distance at about the 40,000 mile range. "

Here is the section which explains how radiated particle undergo a transformation effect:

"Great fluctuations occur in the velocity of electrons in their orbits when materials are subjected to high temperatures. This, in turn, creates interactions and interference effects between electrons moving in opposite directions inside atoms and between electrons in adjacent atoms. These interactions generate changes in the electrostatic field effects of the electrons, which will cause regular and distinct changes in their orbits. This is because the charge on the electron varies with its velocity. Abrupt changes in a particle disrupts the ethers which, in turn, results in the formation of photons."

Comments, anyone?

Dean

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This short narration is from pages 53 – 55 of the book Our Hollow Earth by Dr. Raymond Bernard.

This narration is brief and second hand- it doesn't offer absolute proof of a hollow Earth existence. At the same time, it does seem to confirm the idea that Vedic Culture remains in the interior of the Earth and that the residents have retained a pre Kali Yuga height, lifespan, etc., being sheltered from planetary/solar rays ( Kala ). The personal testimony of Olaf Jansen, another Norwegian explorer who " wandered in," offers more details.

" Dr. Nephi Cottom of Los Angeles reported that one of his patients, a man of Nordic descent, told him the following story:

'I lived near the Arctic Circle in Norway. One summer my friend and I made up our minds to take a boat trip together, and go as far as we could into the North country. So we put one month’s food provisions in a small fishing boat, and with sail and also a good engine in our boat, we put to sea.

At the end of one month, we had traveled far into the North, beyond the pole and into a strange, new country. We were much astonished at the weather there. Warm, and at times at night, it was almost too warm to sleep. [ Artic explorers who penetrated into the far North have made similar reports of warm weather, at times warm enough to make them shed their heavy clothing- Raymond Bernard ] Then we saw something so strange that we were both astonished. Ahead of the warm, open sea we were [ coming up on ] on what looked like a great mountain. Into that mountain at a certain point the ocean seemed to be emptying. Mystified, we continued in that direction until we found ourselves sailing into a vast canyon leading into the interior of the Earth. We kept sailing and then we saw what surprised us- a sun shining inside the Earth!

The ocean that carried us into the hollow interior of the Earth gradually became a river. This river led, as we came to realise later, all through the inner surface of the world from one end to the other. It can take you, if you follow it long enough, from the North Pole clear through to the South Pole.

We saw that the inner surface of the Earth was divided, as the other on is, into both land and water. There is plenty of sunshine and both animal and vegetable life abounds there. We sailed further and further into this fantastic country, fantastic as everything was huge in size as compared with things on the outside. Plants are big, trees gigantic and finally we came to giants.

They were dwelling in homes and towns, just as we do on the Earth’s surface. And they used a type of electrical conveyance like a mono-rail car, to transport people. It ran along the river’s edge from town to town.

Several of the inner Earth inhabitants, huge giants, detected our boat in the river, and were quite amazed. They were, however, quite friendly. We were invited to dine with them in their homes, and so my companion and I separated, he going with one giant to that giant’s home and I going with another giant to that giant’s home.

My gigantic friend brought me home to his family, and I was completely dismayed to see the huge size of the objects in his home. The dinner table was colosal. A plate was put before me and filled with a portion of food so big it would have fed me abundantly for an entire week. The giant offered me a cluster of grapes and each grape was as big as one of our peaches. I tasted one and found it far sweeter than any I had tasted “outside.” In the interior of the Earth all the fruits and vegetables taste far better and more flavorsome than those we have on the outer surface of the Earth.

We stayed with the giants for one year, enjoying their companionship as much as they enjoyed knowing us. We observed many strange and unusual things during our visit with these remarkable people, and were continually amazed at their scientific progress and inventions. All of this time they were never unfriendly to us, and we were allowed to return to our own homes in the same manner in which we came- in fact, they courteously offered their protection should we need it for the return voyage.'”