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Hi Again,

I was thinking about the Olaf's account of the HE. He speaks of unusually tall people, huge vegetation and large birds. He also describes these people as healthy and living extremely long lives. If it is correct in thinking that a HE is able to exist in part due to soft particles being able to penetrate into the earth's crust to provide light, then could we say that the soft particles probably play a huge part in sustaining the higher quality of life in the HE? And, if that is the case, could it be possible to duplicate a HE on the earth? Or something close to a HE? Like in a particular style of home? And, has anyone tried that you know of?

Also, has anyone ever tried any of the orgone products available on the market: blankets, vests, accumulators? If so, what were your results with them?

Leslee****^i^

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Leslee Wrote-

Hi Again,

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I was thinking about the Olaf's account of the HE. He speaks of unusually tall people, huge vegetation and large birds. He also describes these people as healthy and living extremely long lives. If it is correct in thinking that a HE is able to exist in part due to soft particles being able to penetrate into the earth's crust to provide light, then could we say that the soft particles probably play a huge part in sustaining the higher quality of life in the HE? And, if that is the case, could it be possible to duplicate a HE on the earth? Or something close to a HE? Like in a particular style of home? And, has anyone tried that you know of?

Also, has anyone ever tried any of the orgone products available on the market: blankets, vests, accumulators? If so, what were your results with them?

Leslee****^i^

Dharma/Dean Writes-

Once again- smart cookie!

The only thing that the hollow cavity at the center receives are soft particles already filtered by the shell through which they have passed. The harsh rays of the sun are our daily due. Therefore, Olaf described life which was bigger, taller, stronager, more intelligent, longerlived, et cetera.

Pyramids provide a mini soft particle/orgone envirionment. There is some other type of biosphere which Cater mentions at the end of the book. I was drinking orgone wate for a while and I felt good. When I moved, I lost that good window I was using to set the jug out in the sun. At my new work I have a nice window, but I am doing up a new jug anyway, so I have laid off for two or three weeks. This is an area that somebody could jump into, carry on with, keep us informed on, etc.

Dharma/Dean

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Just got that Gyro X car on my links.

http://skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index8.html

Dharma/Dean

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Frode,

Any first impressions on Fran De Aquino's web site?

http://www.elo.com.br/~deaquino/

DD

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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Professor Fran de
Aquino/

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Frode,
Any first impressions on
Fran De Aquino's web site?
http://www.elo.com.br/~deaquino/
DD

(from Dick Fojut in Tucson)

Dean...

Read your above question to Frode. Hope he replies soon.
Interested to read his opinion. Want the impressions of others on de
Aquino's web site?

My impression after printing and reading all the text on
Prof. Aquino's website?

Clearly his writings were meant for his academic associates, NOT
lay people. Continuous mathematical equations and formulas
interspersed mostly with unfamiliar scientific terms (beyond my
present grasp). But, some "normal" dialog here and there to give
one some general ideas... such as Null gravity (Nulified) allowing
near infinite speeds of Photons. Aquino has several simple graphs of
proposed MOTORS, etc. Wish he'd attached (a.b.c., etc) text to the
parts of each graph to explain the functions of the motors to mind
limited ordinary readers like myself. Probably Frode, Mathew, Scott
and others in the group are better suited to understand him. Soon, I
hope they each read Aquino's material and give us THEIR
impressions.

HE HISTORY...

Read the OTHER attachment you sent earlier, HE history by
an unknown author.

My wife read it too. Interesting and apparently fairly well
researched general history about SOME of the better known individuals
who proposed Hollow Earth theories (but strangely leaving out Cater
and Lamprecht!) and about underground caverns, like those in the
SHAVER MYSTERY.

That particularly caught me eye as a close friend of mine became
partially involved with Ray Palmer and Richard Shaver. I never met
either of them but for a time around 1950 my friend was involved with
putting out the "SHAVER MYSTERY LETTERZINE," a memo printed
bulletin for interested fans. He met and talked with both men. Palmer
had also recently sold FATE magazine which he also published and
which also published Shaver's stories about the Deros with their many
destructive machines - and the (good guy) Teros - living
inside deep tunnels and caverns in the crust.

I don't think HE history enhances belief in a hollow earth, but
really doesn't knock the idea either. But still worth reading for
general background info.

AL BIELEK and THE PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT...

Have read several Emails from members about Al Bielek's
lectures. Al has also been on Art Bell several times, and on other
radio talk shows.

About Al... My wife and I knew Al over 30 years back BEFORE he
remembered being a naval officer (with his brother) on the Eldridge.
Al was a contract engineer for private companies and sometimes the
government. Years past, when he came through Tucson, he would
sometimes stay overnight at our home (and with another contract
engineer friend also living in Tucson). Al had a brilliant science
oriented mind and kept more than abreast of most things happening in
orthodox science and alternative science. For Example, Al seemed to
know and understand just about any scientific things going on inside
Russia or here in America. He never stumbled. Could easily explain
anything he knew of. Probably had an IQ off the top.

We had many multi hour talks with Al at our diningroom table. In
fact, the 3 of us (at that time many years back) had only recently
heard about the Philadelphia Expertiment and we each wondered if it
really happened. Then, for no particular reason later, we lost
contact with Al. (It may have had something to do with dwindling
contract jobs and less trips through Tucson and/or we also later
heard his eyesight was failing.) Next time we heard of Al was
unexpectedly on Art Bell! Al saw the Philadelphia Experiment movie
and (he claimed) it triggered his memories. What a story! We nearly
fell off our chairs.

Later, a few years back, my wife went to a UFO/Alternate Science
conference where Al lectured and spent a few hours with him afterward
at a restaurant. He looked like he hadn't aged a bit. Had to be
getting close to 80. One annoying thing about him when we knew him
years back while he sat talking with us, when WE were doing most of
the talking, Al just silently listening, would nod and quickly doze
off sound asleep. Then, give him more coffee and let him do most of
the talking and Al would stay up, alert and aware all night. But
after being with him for several hours after that conference (when
she did much of the talking), she was surprised and pleased that he
never once doped off.

Al is incredibly convincing about the Eldridge event as those
who've heard him know. My wife and I are STILL on the shelf,
undecided whether he is telling the truth or is one of the cleverest
con guy story teller ever! In years past, we never detected Al ever
lying. He was always honest with us and others we knew.

But a couple things bother us (mostly me)... Every new time we
hear him on radio, his story GROWS, additional experiences have been
added... like later being sent back in time and in the future
multiple times. And we really have a problem believing the part about
our government wiping out his memory and inserting his consciousness
(soul?) into a new baby body with different parents. OUR government
had that capability? Hard to believe.

Also, about a year back, may have been via WorldNetDaily, and
eastern newspaper purported to have interviewed the Eldridge's
Captain and (surviving) crew members at their annual get together. In
the newspaper article, the Captain and crew members, aware of the
story, laughed at it and claimed the incident never happened.. Were
they government plants? Have no idea, but it added to our doubts.
Whether he's a brilliant phoney or telling the truth, is up to each
person who listens to his story.

  • Dick Fojut in Tucson

P.S. Dean and Mathew... you gave me worthy arguments recently
about the Churchward data and statements I wrote to both of you
earlier. Will reply soon, I hope, AFTER I read more from the URLs
supplied on the EXpanding Earth theory and more material about Cater.
Thanks.

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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Professor Fran de Aquino/
An excerpt from:

  Venus, Venera Nine and the Puranas

http://skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index4.html

" Does any support exist of such Puranic descriptions? The following NASA photograph of Venus, number: 79-HC-46, seems to do so insofar as it supports the Hollow Planets Theory. If Venus were hollow then perhaps in this way a Vedic civilisation could exist- not " on " Venus, but within.

( Note: This picture was culled out of NASA files by Jan Lamprecht and appears in his book “ Hollow Planets.” Both the picture as well as the arguments in relation to it have been adapted from Mr. Lamprecht's book www.hollowplanets.com ).

We can start with evidence of polar openings. Astronomers tell us that the cloud levels above the Venusian North Pole is 15 kilometers lower than those of the rest of the planet- there is even a NASA study in this regard called " Vortex." Is this depression indicative of atmosphere being sucked into Venus, just as the cloud billows appearing out of the southern pole indicate a huge, spirling updraft? Does ventilation occur through the Venusian poles?

The reader will notice how the curvature of the planet’s atmosphere changes as his/her eye approaches the Southern pole. Several, rounded, twirling, cloud billows are obvious, and there seem to be several folds. They rise out of the Southern extremity and elongate the atmosphere. Venus does, in fact, experience a rising and falling of its atmosphere by as much as 1.1%. That represents a huge expansion given the fact that the diameter of the Venusian globe is supposed to be 7,700 miles. Could the expansion of the Venusian atmosphere and the billowing at the poles be a symptom of the planet’s breathing through polar holes? "

Members,

We've never gotten into the astronomical evidence for hollow planets too much. The above-mentioned picture, however, the second one down on the page, is a huge source of evidence for hollow Earthers.

Dharma/Dean

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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Professor Fran de
Aquino/

Frode,
Any first
impressions on Fran De Aquino's web site?
http://www.elo.com.br/~deaquino/
DD

It looks interesting. But I have to take a serious look at it
another time. Some of it seems to contradict Cater. That is not
necessary bad though.

Frode

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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Professor Fran de Aquino/
List Members,

I have been meditating on Nansen's reports and their significance in terms of curvature.

On April 9th, he and Johansen decided to turn back and head towards Franz Josef Land, further progress being impossible. They had been heading up from that side anyway. Nansen calculated his latitude on that day as 86* 10' North. Five days later on the 14th, even though they had marched Southwards, their position was only 86* 05.6' North! He felt that a Northward drift of the ice had worked against their Southward march.

They were near the rim of the opening because the compass behaved erratically:

Page 216: “ To give the course of the drift [ longitude ] is a difficult task in these latitudes, as there is a perceptible deviation of the compass with every degree of longitude as one passes East or West.”

But before the April 9th turnback date, they couldn't make much progress North, and after the turnback, they couldn't make much porogress Southwards:

Page 288: [ April 6th ] “ It became more and more of a riddle to me that we did not make greater progress Northward. I kept on calculating and adding up our marches later on, but always with the same result ... we must be far above the 86th parallel. It was becoming only too clear to me that the ice was moving southward.”

Page 291: [ April 14th ] “ I find that we should yesterday have come farther South than 86* 53 North; ...I cannot explain it in any other manner than by the surmise that we have been drifting radiply northward, which is very good for the Fram, but less so for us [ on foot ].”

But why would they experience a Southward current when they were trying to head Northwards, and a Northwards current a few days later as they tried to head South. There was a Northwards current in the area because the ship Fram did drift North, but not a Southwards one. Their lack of Southwards progress was truly due to an opposing Northwards current, but their prior lack of Northward progress had to have been due to the fact that they were already on the inward-sloping portion of the opening, past the highpoint of the rim. This had foreshortened their lateral progress towards the Pole.

In prior posts I've made the point that there had been curvature anomalies experienced by Greely above Ellesmere Island, Nansen at 86* N above Nova Zemlya ( here ), and Nansen directly above the New Siberian Islands. So it doesn't seem as if the opening is so narrow that the cuvature doesn't change until you get right up to it.

Posted by Dean