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What are we supposed to make of this picture? That can't be a natural formation. What's going on?

Blake

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According to Cater’s soft particle presentation, gravity is not caused by the density of mass as there are examples of massive bodies which don’t correspond to this scheme; for example, the largest bodies in our atmosphere and solar system: clouds and the Sun. Clouds don’t fall although they are possessed of much denser mass than the surrounding air, and neither the viscosity of air nor air resistence explain this phenomenon. The sun is deemed to be such a source of gravity due to its mass that it is able to keep all the planets in its orbit, though the Sun exerts paucious influence over the tides, while the Moon’s influence is overwhelming. The sun is further away than the Moon although it is much more massive; if it is able to keep the Moon and Earth in orbit from such a distance, what to speak of larger and more distant planets, then it should exert significant influence over the tides also. But it does not. These two examples involving the largest objects in front of our eyeballs demonstrate that gravity is not caused by mass.

If we conceive of gravity as a negative, electrostatic charge, then the descriptions from Etidorhpa acquire new meaning. This concept has been better developed in the essay entitled Clouds Don’t Fall, but it suffices to say that an electrostatic charge would not be able to penetrate too far into the Earth’s shell; it would become transformed to lower frequencies as it penetrated and thus experience forces that oppose it. In this way, gravity would diminish the further down one penetrated giving rise to the experiences related by The Man in Etidorhpa.

Clouds Don't Fall: http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index8.html

Dharma/Dean.

Blake: I think this is one of the best photos ever taken of the North Pole. It shows the earth flattened at the pole as it truely is. I think it shows the artic ocean since all the ice is melted and it must be a recent photo. Earlier photos showed a big snowy depression at the pole. I am curious as to what land masses are shown. I will have to compare them to a map of the north pole region which I got off another site. I wish they had also shown the circular cloud area that is offset to the left of the pole. I have never heard from Jan Lamprecht for his views on this picture, so you would have to ask him. I would also like to know what he thinks of this photo. A night time photo of the same area would be great and I think it would help to settle if the interior sun comes from this area. I am ordering a video on the Northern Lights and I hope it will help give us some more clues. From: Ralph

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Ralph,

What are we supposed to make of this picture? That can't be a natural formation. What's going on?

Blake

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Blake: I can't tell you for sure what this picture shows. I do think it shows the artic ocean and it must be a recent picture since the ice is all melted. This picture shows the world flattened at the pole as it truely is. I'll have to compare the land masses shown to a map of the north pole region which I got from another site. I couldn't send the map, but I should be able to send the site. I thought that maybe the moon had been ejected from this area, but I'm not sure now seeing these land masses. Maria Timms mentions about the earth ejecting a new moon in her book on prophecies. I wish they had also shown the circular hole that is offset to the left of the north pole, but they didn't. I never heard anything from Jan Lamprecht or anyone but you on this picture. I think if we had a night time photo of the same area that it would prove if the interior sun was from this area, or the area offset to the left. I think it is one of the best photos ever taken of the North Pole and I'm glad I found it! Earlier pictures seemed to show a big snowy depression at the pole. From: Ralph

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Ralph,

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Ralph,

Keep in mind that the initial radiation from the inteior sun cpuld be in lower frequencies which are not easily perceptible.

Cater writes a lot on the mechanics of the inner Sun in The Ultimate Reaality.

Dean

A night time photo of the same area would be great and I think it would help to settle if the interior sun comes from this area. I am ordering a video on the Northern Lights and I hope it will help give us some more clues. From: Ralph

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Ralph,

What are we supposed to make of this picture? That can't be a natural formation. What's going on?

Blake

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Jeff,

Have you read much of Cater's book? When I first read it, I got through chapter one rather easily, although his arguments about lunar gravity in that chapter aren't strong. The perceived gravity could be due to the fact that the films were taken on Earth in a studio or whatever.

And chapter two is rather complex- I skipped it after reading about the Michaelson Morely experiment and only went back late.

Chapter three is extremely interesting and not too hard to read. Once you prove through an analysis of tidal action that gravity is not uniformly penetrating, then you open the door for the hollow Earth theory- big time!

Anyway, if you have any questions in regard to the book, you can ask them in an open-ended way on the list. Frode can always help, he spoon-fed me through the book in the beginning.

Late,

Dharma/Dean

Hey Dean,

This week I've started reading his Ultimate Reality
book. I've been doing a lot of research lately. I may
have to end up writing my own book as I figure some
things out.

For example, in mathematics & physics there is something
know as the right hand rule. Every math/physics major
knows what I'm talking about. However, it has never been
explained why this is a right hand rule. (I haven't read
it anyway.) Why is it not a left hand rule instead?

A practical example is that when you send current through
an electromagnet that, let's say, on the top end you generate
a North pole and on the other end you Generate a south Pole.
Why the top end, why not a North pole on the bottom end?
What determines the end of the North Pole? This is no classical
physics explanation that I know about.

Sure, you can reverse the poles by reversing current but that
is meaningless information.
Everyone just explains it as an effect of the right hand rule.
But no one knows why it's a hand rule and not a right hand
rule.

P.S. Some refer to the right hand rule as the left hand rule.
Either way, they are describing an effect that occurs only
in one direction but they have no idea why.

Do a google.com search for "left hand rule" or "right hand rule"
to see people demonstrate an EFFECT with no explanation for the
CAUSE.

Jeff

Ralph,

A nighttime video would be interesting. Still the aurora was described by H. D. Northrop as a " ring of light which is elevated considerably above the surface." ( Page 287 of Gardner's book ) That means that he observed the elevated ring, but nothing between the ring and the ground. So I doubt that the low frequency light would be visible at any time. Such rays would completely camouflage any visible particles held within iteven if the aurora were visible. I say this because the aurora itself is composed of light which has already been released by the low frequency rays. Do you see? Below the ring, between the ring and the ground, the light emanating from within is not in a visible frequency, although may some other animal, such as a cat, could perceive it. Cats must have quite a wide range of frequencies that they can observe because they see well in the dark. ( But I digress! )

Dharma/Dean

Ralph Wrote:

A night time photo of the same area would be great and I think it would help to settle if the interior sun comes from this area.  I am ordering a video on the Northern Lights and I hope it will help give us some more clues.   From:  Ralph

Jeff,

It's good that you have started reading Cater. I guess we'll be talking
about it.

He does explain the right hand rule, it is all in there.

Dean

This picture insinuates to me the possibility that the inner earth atmosphere escaping through the hole is pushing the clouds back.

A previous picture of the Northern Lights seems show the lights radiating from a center or the hole.

Michael-Jon

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Blake: I think this is one of the best photos ever taken of the North Pole. It shows the earth flattened at the pole as it truely is. I think it shows the artic ocean since all the ice is melted and it must be a recent photo. Earlier photos showed a big snowy depression at the pole. I am curious as to what land masses are shown. I will have to compare them to a map of the north pole region which I got off another site. I wish they had also shown the circular cloud area that is offset to the left of the pole. I have never heard from Jan Lamprecht for his views on this picture, so you would have to ask him. I would also like to know what he thinks of this photo. A night time photo of the same area would be great and I think it would help to settle if the interior sun comes from this area. I am ordering a video on the Northern Lights and I hope it will help give us some more clues. From: Ralph

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Ralph,

What are we supposed to make of this picture? That can't be a natural formation. What's going on?

Blake

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Jon,

Very good point, but did we ever decide if the photo were real or artificially generated. Weren't there some comments in this regard? I find the photo very indicative of an opening.

Dean

This picture insinuates to me the possibility that the inner earth atmosphere escaping through the hole is pushing the clouds back.

A previous picture of the Northern Lights seems show the lights radiating from a center or the hole.

Michael-

Dean,

There is another recent black and white photo which was presented a couple of days ago from "The Smoky God and other Inner Earth Mysteries" edited by Timothy Green Beckley. It says it is taken from high above the Earth looking down, released from NASA and says it shows clearly the opening at the North Pole. That is the photo showing latitudinal and longitudinal lines.

If you look at it closely, it looks as if it is showing not an actual hole in the earth, but an opening in the clouds. .

I want to see actual photographic proof just like other HE advocates, but the similarities to the circular cloud are, IMHO (in my humble opinion) too close to deny.

Michael-Jon

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Jon,

Very good point, but did we ever decide if the photo were real or artificially generated. Weren't there some comments in this regard? I find the photo very indicative of an opening.

Dean

This picture insinuates to me the possibility that the inner earth atmosphere escaping through the hole is pushing the clouds back. 
A previous picture of the Northern Lights seems show the lights radiating from a center or the hole.

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Hi Jeff,

The purpose of the right- and left hand rule is just to describe what is observed and not the why's behind it. The direction of the magnetic field is related to the direction of the current in the conductor: But one have to know which current one is dealing with. The electron current or the conventional current. With the electron current one use the left hand rule and with the conventional current one use the right hand rule. Do you get the picture?And, can you tell me what is meant with the conventional current?

If you want to go into the why's behind all of this you have to know what happens when charged particles moves through the ether. You find information on this in " the Ultimate Reality" on page 151.

Frode

PS! The use of the conventional current is a good example of why science today is so complicated. It amazes me that it still is in use.

Michael-Jon,

Oh yes, I remember that one. Since there is light on all sides of the polar area in that photo, I do think that it is a montage taken from sides which were in daylight and then pieced together. If there is no night side to that pic, then it would be hard to be an actual photo. Still, there would be a piece in the middle which would have remained in darkness, and that would account for the dark area, the " hole."

This was Jan Lamprecht's idea and it makes sense to me, but I don't want to be absolute about it. Other opinions are always helpful.

Dharma/

Written and posted by Dharma/Dean:

Science tells us that sunlight only penetrates the Earth’s surface for a few meters, but science refers to visible sunlight in this case. Low frequency particles penetrate further and, as Mr. Cater explains above, even the visible light goes through a redistribution of frequency such that in the new dress of lower frequency light it " continues on and penetrates below the surface." Notice that Mr. Cater says that the " [ lower frequency ] soft particles are continuously breaking up with the formation of new particles ...." This is the key. Initially, the lower frequency particles will be invisible because, even though they contain some light in the visible ranges, the visible properties are camouflaged. However, once the light penetrates as little as ten miles below the surface of the oceans, the darkness becomes less intense and grayish, hazy outlines become barely perceptible- according to the authority of the book Etidorhpa. At a depth of 150 miles, the luminosity was described by the man as being " vividly distinct in the brightness of an earth light that now proved to be superior to sunshine." Again, this is because the lower frequency, invisible radiation begins to break up and release particles in the visible range, which had been contained within the lower frequency aggregates, as is experienced in the domain structure of magnets.

It is in this way that the sunlight and warmth which we experience are actually " Earth-bred," that light " seeps through the Earth as a fluid," that light and warmth may be generated within the bowels of the Earth, that such light is " revitalized darkness," and that " darkness touches on my nerves." ( All quotes from The Guide ). Since there is no central source of light, we can understand how no shadows exist. Mr. Cater’s understanding of soft particle physics has certainly come to the rescue of the book Etidorhpa, and our rescue, too!

No wonder The Man tells of underground worlds full of giant, lush vegetation, and myriad species of living entities. In the worlds below our feet there exists illumination, warmth and water; the extreme, turbulent conditions experienced on the surface are absent below:

" I have acquainted you with but little that I experienced. Near surface earth we passed through caverns filled with creeping reptiles; neither beast nor bird; we passed through passages of and labyrinths of apparently interminable intra-earth structures; to have disported on such features of my journey would have been impracticable. From time to time I experienced strains of melody, such as never before had I conceived, seemingly choruses of angels were singing in and to my very soul. From empty space about me, from out the crevices beyond and behind me, from the depths of my spirit within me, came these strains in notes clear and distinct, but yet indescribable. Did I fancy, or was it real? I will not pretend to say. Flowers and structures beautiful, insects gorgeous and inexplicable were spread before me. Figures and forms I can not attempt to indicate in word descriptions, ever and anon surrounded, accompanied, and passed me by. The canvas conceptions of earth-bred artists bring to mind no forms so strange and weird and yet so beautiful as were these compound beings. Restful beyond description was it to drink in the indescribable strains of poetry of motion that I appreciated in the movements of fair creatures I have not mentioned, and it was no less soothing to experience the soul relief wrought by the sounds about me, for musicians know no notes so sweet and entrancing.

There were also, in side caverns to which I was led, combinations of sounds and scenes in which floating strains and fleeting figures were interwoven and interlaced so closely that the senses of both sight and hearing became blended into a single sense, new, weird, strange, and inexpressible. As flavor is the combination of odor and taste, and is neither taste nor odor, so these sounds and scenes combined were neither scenes nor sounds, but a complex sensation, new, delicious. Sometimes I begged to be permitted to stop and live forever 'mid those heavenly charms, but with as firm a hand as when helping me through the chambers of mire, ooze, and creeping reptiles, my guide drew me onward." ( Etidorhpa, page 268 )

Frode wrote:

Hi Jeff,

The purpose of the right- and left hand rule is just to describe what
is observed and not the why's behind it.

[snip]

If you want to go into the why's behind all of this you have to know
what happens when charged particles moves through the ether. You
find information on this in " the Ultimate Reality" on page 151.

Doh! I mised that the first time. :slight_smile: His explaination is more complicated
than I hoped (Electrons & protons having a spiral shaped front) but it is
similar to ideas I was forming. Sounds like the most logical theory I've
heard so far away.

Jeff

Jeff,

I don't know what your background is, but it usually takes a while to
assimilate Cate. By the time certain information is presented in his book he
has given the necessary background info. When you get to that point again by
reading the book straight through, then you will probably pick it right up.

Dean

Re: [allplanets-hollow] Cater's
Book

Doh! I mised that the first time. :slight_smile: His explaination is more
complicated

than I hoped (Electrons & protons having a spiral shaped front)
but it is

similar to ideas I was forming. Sounds like the most logical theory
I've

heard so far away.
Jeff

So I guess you understood what I meant with the conventional
current ( I don't know if that is the right word for it in English),
but just in case some of the other list members were wondering: Before
electrons were known scientists believed that the direction of the
current was moving from the positive pole of the battery to the
negative pole. It was basically just a wild guess. When they later
discovered that the real current was going the other way, they
still decided to use the old one too. I guess some scientists like to
keep some of the old traditions, though I will not call that very
scientific.

Frode

Frode wrote:

So I guess you understood what I meant with the conventional current

Yes.

( I don't know if that is the right word for it in English), but just
in case some of the other list members were wondering: Before electrons
were known scientists believed that the direction of the current was
moving from the positive pole of the battery to the negative pole.

Some still believe this. :slight_smile: But it's just a perspective thing I guess.

On page 303 of Cater's "The Ultimate Reality", he mentions that his
two previous books were "The Awesome Force" and "The Awesome Life Force".
As anyone been able to locate "The Awesome Force"? And if so, how does it
differ from the other one?

Also, Health Research books has 3 damaged versions of this hollow earth
book for sale: PHANTOM OF THE POLES. Has anyone read it? Any good?
You can order it here:

http://www.healthresearchbooks.com/Specials/damaged.htm

Thanks,

Jeff

Jeff,

The Awesome Life Force is the same as The Ultimate Reality, it is just that
it was re-written in the sense that extra examples and " pieces " have been
inserted. The Awesome Life Force has about 90 pages less than than The
Ultimate Reality, which has around 600 total.

Phantom of the Poles is a hollow Earth classic. It is the first book that
appeared, right after the turn of the century, which made HE conclusions
based on the resutls of Artic exploration. It is a good source of raw data
and practically a catalogue of observations.

The author is Reed- I do think that his secondary conclusion is wrong. He
says that there is no pole in the conventional sense beacaue the the opening
swallows it up, that where the pole would be is where the middle part of the
opening is. I think, I say think, that they have found the geographic pole-
it is along the inside of the funnel-like opening . The neck of the opening
is offset. There is no reason to think that after millions of years the
geographic North pole will exactly coincide with the opening; the Earth has
wobble.

Dharma/Dean