[allplanets-hollow] Vegetation in the Hollow Portion--???

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For all who believe in some sort of afterlife, moving to other worlds, heaven, and entertain the idea that Earth is just one stop of many for us along our path.....I would like your "take" on the journal entry below the except of today's "The Smokey God", that I wrote Feb 10, 2001.

Hi, my name is Leslee and I am new to this group. Wanting to familiarize myself with what this group is all about, I took to studying the Hollow Earth web site of Dharma/Dean yesterday. For some reason I chose the tale of "The Smokey God" which was experienced by Olaf Jansen. I printed out the story and went to bed reading. When I reached PART FOUR: IN THE UNDER WORLD I thought to myself--this is familiar to me. Now, what is strange about this is that I had never heard the term "Hollow Earth" before, nor had I heard of Olaf Jansen. So, why did I feel I was reading about a place I had been to?

I am able to travel between worlds, and one of the reasons I joined this group was in hopes of finding more out about Parallel Worlds, Invisible Worlds, (at least to normal sighting), and any other kind of World separate from Earth. So, I was quite taken back when reading about a place I felt I had visited. After much thought I recalled a Journey I had with the Spirit of a woman who left this Earth back in June. Since I am collecting material for writing, I began to record my experiences, either by entrance into a journal, or by cassette recording if I am able. I went to my computer and scrolled through my journal of travels and came across the journey which reminds me of "Hollow Earth" and have pasted my journal entry below.

My question is this: If I was indeed taken by Grace to a Hollow Earth, was she taking me knowing I would soon be hearing about such a place and she wanted to validate for me that it did exist, or, is this a place spirits can go to after life on Earth has been completed, or, was it a manifestation of my mind---and I was simply glimpsing into the future when I would indeed be reading about Olaf Jansen's story?

Date: Sunday, March 11, 2001 5:55 PM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Vegetation in the Hollow Portion

`Members,

The soft particle/orgone environment of the hollow portion, with less of the
harsher hard particles that we have on the surface, seem to do wonders for
agriculture, too.

From Olaf's testimony, The Smokey God:

" Vegetation grew in lavish exuberance, and fruit of all kinds possessed the
most delicate flavour. Clusters of grapes four and five feet in length, each
grape as large as an orange, and apples larger than a man's head typified
the wonderful growth of all things on the "inside" of the earth. The great
redwood trees of California would be considered mere underbrush compared
with the giant forest trees extending for miles and miles in all directions.
In many directions along the foothills of the mountains vast herds of cattle
were seen during the last day of our travel on the river."
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Feb/10/01

Bedtime Vision & Journey

I went to bed at 1 AM extremely exhausted and thought I would fall immediately in a deep and restful sleep. Just as I was about to close my eyes for a good night’s rest I felt a Spirit appear-- someone was next to my bed who wanted my attention. Gracie! Her hair is white now, and shoulder length, which is much longer than it was at the time of her death? (Still growing?) I am looking at her intently, trying to figure why she comes to me, as if she wanted to get a message to a loved one she has mystical children still here on earth and surely she could appear to any one of them.

Gracie is reaching out to me with both hands, Like she wants me to grasp on and go somewhere with her, yet I am skeptical and untrusting of her. Why? I had known her my whole life—until she passed on last June at the age of 80. No sure why I am hesitant to grasp on—so I tell her I will follow her.

Everything around her was white, including her "night dress" as it reminded me of what a gown woman would wear to bed perhaps in the 1800’s, or earlier. It was white cotton, a collar and the sleeves belle out quite wide at the elbows. She was reaching out her hands for me to grasp on to, but I told her no again. I did not trust her enough to grab on to her.

When she realized I was not going to take her hands she took me on a journey where I followed her, sure not to touch her. We traveled to a river that reminded my of the Nile—Yet it was not the Nile—I want to say Egypt, but that was also wrong. This is a place I have never seen on any map, I am sure of it. Also, a place I have never heard of on TV. Or Radio. Or books. Where were we and why is Gracie not telling me, but instead it is as if she wants to be a silent guide through this unknown territory of beauty. She was riding in one of those boats where the front and back curls upward almost like a intricate scroll work with intricate designs but the bottom of the boat is wide and flat. (It brings to mind an old Viking Sea Ship) Gracie was resting on pillows in the center of the boat, and she looked to be a quarter of the size of the man who was guiding the boat along the river. What I saw next surprised me—giants of men. The looked like Hercules' men--all buffed out carrying cement blocks into various cave opening along the sides of the river for building something? Were we back in the days of Egyptian architecture? Not sure, but don’t think so, and the reason is that this place did not feel ancient, it felt like a place in existence today…but where? Where are there men 10,11, 12’ in height? And broad in shoulders. Picking up objects, that on earth, any man would be incapable of lifting. Everything is peaceful, the greenest vegetation I have ever seen. But, the most striking element is one of calmness and serenity. Is this because it is a place for spirits to live after shedding their body on earth? In all my travels with spirits, or astro-travel, I have never seen such a place before. Will have to ask Don his take on why his mom came to me, and if he has any clues as to what she is trying to tell me. (Don had no ideas at all about why his mother came to me. Telling him about the journey he is clueless, although one thing strikes him as odd, Gracie never liked being alone---so, why was she alone and where was she? Otherwise, nothing, and the only answer I can arrive at is that this was just a place she wanted me to see—will have to investigate if there are places where men grow twice the size of men here). Also, in the journey I did not feel like we traveled up, but across the earth and then down.

So, could this place have been somewhere in the Hollow Earth? Opinions & thoughts will be highly valued.

Thanks, Leslee

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Ralph,

Thanks for posting the route map of those two ladies. According to the map, they swung wide of the area where the opening is supposed to be. They seem to have traveled off to the left, in other words, closer to Mc Murdo. But the initial reports were that the ladies had strayed too close to the Russian side, and that they were actually IN the Russian side. So there could be a bit of " spin " to this, I don't know.

The suspected location, thanks to Rod M. Cluff, is located at: http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index6.html

Dharma/Dean

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Leslee,

About your post on an astral journey to the hollow earth: It is definitely a three-dimensional, physical world, as it is nothing but the surface of our planet. Just as there was no reason for Europeans of the times of Columbus to speculate that the other side of the world might be astral or whatever, there is no reason to speculate that the inner surface is not physical as we know it.

In the same 3-D space realms of higher frequency matter can and do co-exist with our realm. Particles of differing frequency don't interefere with each other. As an example, ghosts and ethereal bodies, much subtler and composed of higher frequency particles, have been reported to pass through walls and other solid matter. They are temporarily visible in such cases only because they have been infused somehow by soft particles in the visible frequency. In the case of UFO creatures, this is probably due to mechanical technologies- they have also been known to pass through walls and other solid matter in the act of abduction attempts and such. So there can be such world co-existing with the world which Olaf described, and such worlds co-existing with our world here on the surface. Perhaps you had an experience along these lines, or perhaps you experienced the world of Olaf's description, but in an astral body. I can't deny that some people have such abilities, although I certainly don't. Mr. Cater has a chapter called " Manifestations from Higher Realms," it is chapter 27.

On my page entitled " Mysticism," the top article contains the narrations of Chitralekha- now she was a mystic, and lady, could she travel!

Later,

Dharma/Dean

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Ralph,

Your Tunguska post raises interesting questions. The explanation on that site says that glowing clouds were left such that people in Eastern Europe could read papers by it for three nights. I think that a comet which could cause such an effect would have been noticed and documented. Of course, they can speculate on that it came from the Sun's direction andd that's why it wasn't seen, but that and 50 cents buys a cup of coffee.

Keep in mind Mr. Cater's description of a particle beam weapon and how it would act. Mr. Cater also stipulates a radial pattern. ( Attached )

The question is, who and why? I can't answer that. I don't know that anything significant was going on at that time in that area. In fact, the area was isolated, wasn't it? maybe the impact had an underground effect. There are cavernous worlds underground, places of activity- just ask Mike Mott.

Dharma/Dean

Official explanation:

The explosion sent out a shockwave that knocked down all of the trees in a radial pattern. It left orange, noctiluscent clouds glowing so brightly, that for three nights people as far away as Eastern Europe could read their newspapers by its light.

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Dean: The Tunguska explosion was featured on Sightings a few years ago. It said that Tesla may have been mad when he tried to send this beam of electricity to the north pole. Tesla's experimentation of sending electricity through the air is also shown on the video (The Secret of Nikola Tesla.) I also have a short article that was printed in Fate magazine on his experiments of shooting electriciy through the air. My main point that I always wondered is:Could this beam have been deflected by people living inside the planet to a region where it will do the least harm on the planet? They say that the effect of gravity caused Tesla to miss his mark. Tad Wise recently had a book out on this. It had to be listed as fiction to get printed and it is already extinct. I think the exact timing of when the explosion happened and the time of Tesla's tower burning down could be narrowed down. They are said to have happened on the same day! From: Ralph

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----- Original Message -----

From:
Dean De Lucia

To: [email protected]

Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:38 AM

Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Tunguska and particle beams

Ralph,

Your Tunguska post raises interesting questions. The explanation on that site says that glowing clouds were left such that people in Eastern Europe could read papers by it for three nights. I think that a comet which could cause such an effect would have been noticed and documented. Of course, they can speculate on that it came from the Sun's direction andd that's why it wasn't seen, but that and 50 cents buys a cup of coffee.

Keep in mind Mr. Cater's description of a particle beam weapon and how it would act. Mr. Cater also stipulates a radial pattern. ( Attached )

The question is, who and why? I can't answer that. I don't know that anything significant was going on at that time in that area. In fact, the area was isolated, wasn't it? maybe the impact had an underground effect. There are cavernous worlds underground, places of activity- just ask Mike Mott.

Dharma/Dean

Official explanation:

The explosion sent out a shockwave that knocked down all of the trees in a radial pattern. It left orange, noctiluscent clouds glowing so brightly, that for three nights people as far away as Eastern Europe could read their newspapers by its light.

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Ralph,

Ah, now I see your point.

How do you know the exact nature of Telsa's beam. Could it have been a particle beam?

Maybe there was more to Telsa than we know. Maybe some alien technology communicated by suggestion, hypnosis or something.

Dharma/Dean

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Dean: The Tunguska explosion was featured on Sightings a few years ago. It said that Tesla may have been mad when he tried to send this beam of electricity to the north pole. Tesla's experimentation of sending electricity through the air is also shown on the video (The Secret of Nikola Tesla.) I also have a short article that was printed in Fate magazine on his experiments of shooting electriciy through the air. My main point that I always wondered is:Could this beam have been deflected by people living inside the planet to a region where it will do the least harm on the planet? They say that the effect of gravity caused Tesla to miss his mark. Tad Wise recently had a book out on this. It had to be listed as fiction to get printed and it is already extinct. I think the exact timing of when the explosion happened and the time of Tesla's tower burning down could be narrowed down. They are said to have happened on the same day! From: Ralph

----- Original Message -----

From:
Dean De Lucia

To: [email protected]

Sent: Monday, March 12, 2001 9:38 AM

Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Tunguska and particle beams

Ralph,

Your Tunguska post raises interesting questions. The explanation on that site says that glowing clouds were left such that people in Eastern Europe could read papers by it for three nights. I think that a comet which could cause such an effect would have been noticed and documented. Of course, they can speculate on that it came from the Sun's direction andd that's why it wasn't seen, but that and 50 cents buys a cup of coffee.

Keep in mind Mr. Cater's description of a particle beam weapon and how it would act. Mr. Cater also stipulates a radial pattern. (  Attached )

The question is, who and why? I can't answer that. I don't know that anything significant was going on at that time in that area. In fact, the area was isolated, wasn't it? maybe the impact had an underground effect. There are cavernous worlds underground, places of activity- just ask Mike Mott.

Dharma/Dean

Official explanation:

The explosion sent out a shockwave that knocked down all of the trees in a radial pattern. It left orange, noctiluscent clouds glowing so brightly, that for three nights people as far away as Eastern Europe could read their newspapers by its light.

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