Frode,
First off, unless we are concerning ourselves with intangible
things such as
faith in a Supreme being how else would one expect to prove something?
With
faith we must have hope and faith but when dealing strictly from a
scientific point
of view I see nothing wrong with the attempt to try and prove something
using
a tool like mathematics. I will admit as you point out that there can be
some
difficulties when trying to prove something with mathematics alone. For
one thing,
the theory and application of something must "fit" the problem but to my
thinking
we cannot become overly engrossed in such skepticisms because our daily
lives are
filled with all sorts of things that have been scientifically rendered.
As a case in
point I would presume that the most of the people rely implicitly on such
things as
the mathematics that the engineers and technicians use in constructing
bridges, roads,
sky scrapers or any number of other things in our modern age and we don't
ever
doubt their methods because they have a track record for dependable if
not perfect
performance.
The challenge I see before me is to present as logically flawless
an argument
as one can figure out so that even if the current day formulas don't end
up being
correct in the final analysis there would be nothing flawed about my
methods using
as a basis the current established scientific formulas.
It is no marvel to me that I seemingly am constantly dwelling on
ideas that are
in my own admission even dubious in nature. I comfort myself with
reasoning that
when one attempts to buck the current trends or go against the grain as
some may
put it, my chance of total success may not be very high and it may be my
own lack
of knowledge that will cause me to be wrong in the end. There does exist
the very
slight possibility that one might come up with unique scientific thinking
and that
would be the hope that drives me.
I noted with all the talk of the theory Mr. Cater has come up
with that here
was a fellow who may have done the same thing with the possibility that
he was
successful. This would be glad news to my ears if it advanced the hollow
earth
theory. I must confess though that it seemed from what little I know
about his
soft particle theory on gravity from reading posts on this list that it
actually might
render the strategy I was using on such things as the plumbob paradox
obsolete.
You see my strategy actually embraces the Newtonian formulas for
mass
attraction and gravity though there are some who think that they are not
harmonious
with the hollow earth theory. If they prove out my points the
establishment types
cannot invalidate my theory because they were based on funny math or
science and
I will have done something to boost the supports for a hollow earth. On
the other
hand if in applying Newtonian formulas, I can show that they are either
wrong by
a creditable pure science and logical approach, or, incomplete in
explaining what
I hope is a measurable phenomenon, then our theory also gains ground by
drawing
attention to the flaws inherent in Newtonian thought, or established
scientific theory.
All this is a tall order though, so lets not hold our breaths!
In fact, the idea I have
in mind was until recently so daunting a task that I pretty much assumed
that it was not
within the realm of things that could legitimately even be proven and
would thus be not
worth the time and effort to pursue.
In saying all of this let me make a small apology to those in the
list that might be
anxious for me to come up with something that was concrete enough to get
excited
about. In my enthusiasm to play a role and contribute to our field of
study, I paid little
heed to the idea that I might be jumping the gun on this stuff. The last
kind of person
I want to be is one that promises to come up with the goods and then
fails to deliver.
I still hope to perform as promised or at least to perform the experiment
to see if it is
worth publication, but, I have the habit of dreaming up things that may
not be doable.
In this case, the math and method of attempting to examine my idea is a
very difficult
thing to assemble.
So, I would on the one hand wish to apologize for false or at
least premature
advertising and on the other hand I almost think it would be constructive
if I laid out
the plan in detail without my actually writing the computer program
required to test my
theory. Some of you, which I could clue in to the idea, might then be
in a position to
save me the time and effort I would have to put into it if they could say
to me,
"Look Scott, this is ambitious thinking but for the following reasons I
don't think your
idea has any merit."
On the other hand, I am not anxious to spill the beans on an idea
that, let us say
might have some small chance of being very significant. So, probably what
I should do
is to prepare a brief on it and send it to selected or interested enough
parties who
would act as consultants.
Thank you for your interest and patience with me,
Scott
Scott,
I am a littles sceptic to things that can only be proven
mathematically. It seems to me that math can prove close to anything
be it real or unreal, and thus it actually does not prove anything.
I hope you can enlighten me on this if you think I am wrong.
First of all I think that to prove anything regarding this puzzle
one have to repeat the experiments that was done 100 years ago many
times and on many places around the globe to see if is not just a local
thing but a global one. I also wonder why this has not been done. I
don't consider cover ups unlikely, but? I also want to ask how we
can be sure that this experiment is authentic.Is it possible to describe this theory of yours in a visual way?
I am genuinely intrigued by this plumb bob puzzle, but there is also
something with it that make me which that it did not existed.
I know the feeling!
I would appreciate if you could help me out of this dilemma. I will
listen
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On Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:47:26 +0100 Frode <[email protected]> writes:
as long as it not involve something similar to the mathematical bending
of time and space, and dimensions beyond three.
Frode
>
>
>I have a way out theory why this is happening and I plan to share
it with
>everyone
>sometime but it involves some rather daunting math to try to
substantiate
>and is a
>rather formidable task.
>
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