[allplanets-hollow] Soft Particles and flight characteristics

Dean, Norlan and other believers,

    There are many great minds that have contributed to the HE theory and
this site. I don't think that the supporters are doing themselves any good
trying to convince the skeptics, and conventional scientists. It is a waste
of valuable energy and talent. Intellectual saber rattling over this theory
vs that theory could be counter productive, especially if done publicly. I
think the skeptics thrive on this type of opposing view's conflicts.

    What would happen if this site was successful enough to persuade a
scientist to go forward with an expedition? More than likely they would take
all the credit, and not even mention this site, if he was successful. If one
of us was to enter, and come back with many video tapes of the interior the
skeptics and conventional scientists would say that the tapes were doctored.

    I believe, and of course I may be wrong, we should be using our time and
energy in forming our own expedition. Not that many involved of course, and
it would have to planned way in advance, and not via the Internet. If the
pioneers of yesteryear, with what little knowledge, and resources they had
came very close, we could do it with ease. How many explorers do you think
went there, and never came back, that we don't know about? I am sure there
were quite a few. If it is as beautiful as Olaf, Byrd and the others say it
is, I myself would never come back out to this mess. I wouldn't go there with
the hope of going on "Oprah's" TV show.

At this point I say let the skeptics sink or swim on their own, the serious
believers should start getting real serious; lets form a small group and make
it happen

It's gonna be nice and warm in Greenland this August and September.

Mike, NYC

Dean, Norlan and other believers,

    There are many great minds that have contributed to the HE theory and
this site. I don't think that the supporters are doing themselves any good
trying to convince the skeptics, and conventional scientists. It is a waste
of valuable energy and talent. Intellectual saber rattling over this theory
vs that theory could be counter productive, especially if done publicly. I
think the skeptics thrive on this type of opposing view's conflicts.

Mike,

To work out if a theory is good map to understand reality or not requires that one constantly challenge the theory with existing and new observations. If there are contradictions between observations and theory there has to be something wrong somewhere. So, skepticism is a must in science, as long it is not used for ego protection only. This apply to the HE as well as to Sort-particle physics.

Frode

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Dean, Norlan and other believers,

    There are many great minds that have contributed to the HE theory and
this site. I don't think that the supporters are doing themselves any good
trying to convince the skeptics, and conventional scientists. It is a

waste

of valuable energy and talent.

Mike,

I certainly agree with you here. I like the idea of exposing the HET to many
people, and just letting the people who are open-minded come forward,
otherwise, we are going to waste a lot of time.

Intellectual saber rattling over this theory

vs that theory could be counter productive, especially if done publicly. I
think the skeptics thrive on this type of opposing view's conflicts.

    What would happen if this site was successful enough to persuade a
scientist to go forward with an expedition?

Scientists are worse than bitches when it comes to grabbing the glory and
stabbing other people in the back.

More than likely they would take

all the credit, and not even mention this site, if he was successful. If

one

of us was to enter, and come back with many video tapes of the interior

the

skeptics and conventional scientists would say that the tapes were

doctored.

    I believe, and of course I may be wrong, we should be using our time

and

energy in forming our own expedition. Not that many involved of course,

and

it would have to planned way in advance, and not via the Internet. If the
pioneers of yesteryear, with what little knowledge, and resources they had
came very close, we could do it with ease. How many explorers do you think
went there, and never came back, that we don't know about? I am sure there
were quite a few. If it is as beautiful as Olaf, Byrd and the others say

it

is, I myself would never come back out to this mess. I wouldn't go there

with

the hope of going on "Oprah's" TV show.

It is a matte of money and probablity, even if we had money, because the
NATO by are just dying to meet you- I mean you ( Could be ) dying to meet
them ( catch my drift? )

Dharma/Dean

At this point I say let the skeptics sink or swim on their own, the

serious

believers should start getting real serious; lets form a small group and

make

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it happen

It's gonna be nice and warm in Greenland this August and September.

Mike, NYC

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