[allplanets-hollow] Sitchin's Theory

Sitchin says; “the word, Nefilim, the name by which those extraordinary beings, the sons of the gods were known, means literal
Hazel,

I have a few of Sitchin's books too. What you state at the end of your commentary

below is interesting but as far as the quote about the Egyptians:

"It was the duty of all Maya, through tests and initiation, to conquer death (the gods of the underworld) and so cease to be reincarnated but remain in the higher heavens. Achieving this Afterlife was the sole purpose of existence for Ancient Egyptians."

I find this idea to be inconsistent with what we know of the history of the Egyptians. This was a people that

held the preservation of the physical body in high priority. Their quest was to preserve it with the mummification

process to the best of their ability. They expected to be using their old body apparently as the vessel they would live out eternity in. Now to the modern mind and way of thinking, we believe God will give us a new body and superior existence to the one we now enjoy. This is the case for the Christian at least. It therefore makes little

sense to me that if these peoples sought to cease a cycle of reincarnation and return to the purity of consciousness

in some high heaven, they would at the same time be so concerned about preserving their old inferior physical

bodies. I often think that these people just didn't "get it" since we in the modern world would not be concerned

just what the condition of our earthly body would be after death. There have been people who have no body at

all. Many people choose cremation and scatter their ashes to the wind in a place they appreciated. Other's simply

had, through no negligence on their own part, been destroyed utterly. There is the story of the man who was pushing a hand cart across a bridge in Hiroshima which was right beneath the fission blast of the atom bomb dropped there. All that was left of the man was a shadow impression or photographic residue on the ground of

the bridge itself. The only mercy that individual had in dying was probably that he was melted in such immediate and extreme heat that he was gone before his mind could register any pain.

Escaping a wheel of Karma or cycle of reincarnation is typically a very eastern religious component. If they desired release from it upon gaining some sort of perfection their own religious faith aimed them at, then preservation of a physical body is inconsistent with that goal.

Scott

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On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:06:59 +0100 "Hazel" [email protected] writes:

Dear All, Here is an alternative interpretation of Zecharia Sitchin’s theory.

Sitchin says; “the word, Nefilim, the name by which those extraordinary beings, the sons of the gods were known, means literally, ‘* Those who have come down to earth from the heavens.’*

This automatically assumes ‘the heavens ’ is outer space. My understanding is that the seven (actually nine) heavens are alternate realities and dimensions; Channelling from the Council of Nine states:

  • ‘Not really a dimension, a state of being…of consciousness, there are nine of* * them. Level Nine is pure, of great purity. Souls come from Level Nine…souls are* created here’.

So the son’s of the gods, fell not from the sky, but from a state of pure consciousness.

Sitchin claims, “people from that planet (Nibiru) came to Earth almost half a million years ago and did many of the things about which we read in the Bible.”

They travelled from their planet to Earth and splashed down in the Persian Gulf. The Sumerians had immense knowledge. They were proficient in mathematics, astronomy, writing and, in many respects, their knowledge surpassed modern times.

They said, "All that we know was told to us by the Anunnaki."

The Father of the Annunaki was Anu, (Zeus, Llud, Odin, Ra, Jove, in other mythologies, usually represening the sun or sky) who resides in the remote * heavens,* on the holy mountain. And to here, his sons returned during the deluge, taking Utnapishtim too…so by Sitchin’s account they all flew off back to Nibiru.

But Gilgamesh set sail in a boat for the mountain at the end of the Earth, and found Utnapishtim, so he could not have been in some far off planet. He was in fact in the paradise at the estuary of the streams, these four rivers, the Gihon, Hiddikel, Pison and Euphrates originate in Eden (hollow earth) and converge at the polar opening, which is where the Annunaki came from, they were the gods of the underworld.

If the gods return with their planet every 3,600 years as Sitchin believes, and treat earthlings as genetic engineering subjects, or molest the women, why if they are capable of interplanetary flight in spacecraft would they require to wait till Nibiru was between Mars and Jupiter? They could come here at any time, and why go to great lengths to educate and civilize people they plan to enslave?

It is a comet that passes Earth on an eliptical orbit every 3,600 years and reverses the poles, causing deluge and conflagration. The gods return at this time from the remote heavens of Anu, to restore civilization, and all fields of learning, to survivors. Then they allow mankind to develop, as they did in Sumeria and Central America, while they keep watch, from the distance. But the people continue to worship them and make offerings and sacrifices to them.

However, one of these gods was in conflict with the others, Enki (Seth, Loki, Mars, Sammael, Satan in the Hermetic tradition) it was he who caused Adam and Eve to be excluded from Eden, which meant they had to endure birth and death, in a lower frequency, material existence (the surface world.) Which is where we all are today. It was the duty of all Maya, through tests and initiation, to conquer death (the gods of the underworld) and so cease to be reincarnated but remain in the higher heavens. Achieving this Afterlife was the sole purpose of existence for Ancient Egyptians.

Sitchin says; “the word, Nefilim, the name by which those extraordinary beings, the sons of the gods were known, means literal

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I find this idea to be inconsistent with what we know of the history of the Egyptians. This was a people that

held the preservation of the physical body in high priority. Their quest was to preserve it with the mummification

process to the best of their ability. They expected to be using their old body apparently as the vessel they would live out eternity in. Now to the modern mind and way of thinking, we believe God will give us a new body and superior existence to the one we now enjoy. This is the case for the Christian at least.

  • Scott,

I find this fascinating. In Etidorhpa, at the end, The Man left aside his mortal body in order to enter the final realm, so to speak, on the ethereal platform. but he came back to it and, apparently reanimated it in order to carry out his mission, i.e., dictating the book.

We have seen evidences or comments about eternal, subterranean worlds/ethereal worlds underneath Egypt- there is some comment to this effect in the Egyptian Book of the Dead. What if they were aware through experience or some teaching handed down to them that they had to lay aside their body in order to participate in that world deep underneath, that the pyramids lead to? Maybe they ended up with some corruption of this idea.

it is just to much of a co-incidence that they had that practice of mummification, that the tunnels underneath the pyramids go on and on for kilometers, so much so that we haven'texplored to the end, and that there is supposed to be an eternal, ethereal world underneath.

I know that I am brainstorming, but there are times when it is beneficial to do so.

DD

Sitchin says; “the word, Nefilim, the name by which those extraordinary beings, the sons of the gods were known, means literal
Scott, The Egyptians preserved the morphogenetic field of the deceased, as well as the physical body, by mumification, which they required in the Afterlife, however the ba and akh, (soul and spirit) continues to exist without the physical body, because we have an ethereal body (superior body) however, escaping a wheel of Karma or cycle of reincarnation is typically a universal concept, in ancient cultures, the Druids firmly believed it was so. Hazel

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Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Sitchin's Theory

Hazel,

I have a few of Sitchin's books too. What you state at the end of your commentary

below is interesting but as far as the quote about the Egyptians:

"It was the duty of all Maya, through tests and initiation, to conquer death (the gods of the underworld) and so cease to be reincarnated but remain in the higher heavens. Achieving this Afterlife was the sole purpose of existence for Ancient Egyptians."

I find this idea to be inconsistent with what we know of the history of the Egyptians. This was a people that

held the preservation of the physical body in high priority. Their quest was to preserve it with the mummification

process to the best of their ability. They expected to be using their old body apparently as the vessel they would live out eternity in. Now to the modern mind and way of thinking, we believe God will give us a new body and superior existence to the one we now enjoy. This is the case for the Christian at least. It therefore makes little

sense to me that if these peoples sought to cease a cycle of reincarnation and return to the purity of consciousness

in some high heaven, they would at the same time be so concerned about preserving their old inferior physical

bodies. I often think that these people just didn't "get it" since we in the modern world would not be concerned

just what the condition of our earthly body would be after death. There have been people who have no body at

all. Many people choose cremation and scatter their ashes to the wind in a place they appreciated. Other's simply

had, through no negligence on their own part, been destroyed utterly. There is the story of the man who was pushing a hand cart across a bridge in Hiroshima which was right beneath the fission blast of the atom bomb dropped there. All that was left of the man was a shadow impression or photographic residue on the ground of

the bridge itself. The only mercy that individual had in dying was probably that he was melted in such immediate and extreme heat that he was gone before his mind could register any pain.

Escaping a wheel of Karma or cycle of reincarnation is typically a very eastern religious component. If they desired release from it upon gaining some sort of perfection their own religious faith aimed them at, then preservation of a physical body is inconsistent with that goal.

Scott

On Sat, 2 Jun 2001 16:06:59 +0100 "Hazel" <[email protected] > writes:

Dear All, Here is an alternative interpretation of Zecharia Sitchin’s theory.
Sitchin says; “the word, Nefilim, the name by which those extraordinary beings, the sons of the gods were known, means literally, ‘*    Those who have come down to earth from the heavens.’*

This automatically assumes ‘the heavens ’ is outer space. My understanding is that the seven (actually nine) heavens are alternate realities and dimensions; Channelling from the Council of Nine states:

  • ‘Not really a dimension, a state of being…of consciousness, there are nine of* * them. Level Nine is pure, of great purity. Souls come from Level Nine…souls are* created here’.
So the son’s of the gods, fell not from the sky, but from a state of pure consciousness.
Sitchin claims, “people from that planet (Nibiru) came to Earth almost half a million years ago and did many of the things about which we read in the Bible.”
They travelled from their planet to Earth and splashed down in the Persian Gulf. The Sumerians had immense knowledge. They were proficient in mathematics, astronomy, writing and, in many respects, their knowledge surpassed modern times.
 They said, "All that we know was told to us by the Anunnaki."
The Father of the Annunaki was Anu, (Zeus, Llud, Odin, Ra, Jove, in other mythologies, usually represening the sun or sky) who resides in the remote *    heavens,*     on the holy mountain. And to here, his sons returned during the deluge, taking Utnapishtim too…so by Sitchin’s account they all flew off back to Nibiru.
But Gilgamesh set sail in a boat for the mountain at the end of the Earth, and found Utnapishtim, so he could not have been in some far off planet. He was in fact in the paradise at the estuary of the streams, these four rivers, the Gihon, Hiddikel, Pison and Euphrates originate in Eden (hollow earth) and converge at the polar opening, which is where the Annunaki came from, they were the gods of the underworld.
If the gods return with their planet every 3,600 years as Sitchin believes, and treat earthlings as genetic engineering subjects, or molest the women, why if they are capable of interplanetary flight in spacecraft would they require to wait till Nibiru was between Mars and Jupiter? They could come here at any time, and why go to great lengths to educate and civilize people they plan to enslave?
It is a comet that passes Earth on an eliptical orbit every 3,600 years and reverses the poles, causing deluge and conflagration. The gods return at this time from the *remote heavens* of Anu, to restore civilization, and all fields of learning, to survivors. Then they allow mankind to develop, as they did in Sumeria and Central America, while they keep watch, from the distance. But the people continue to worship them and make offerings and sacrifices to them.
However, one of these gods was in conflict with the others, Enki (Seth, Loki, Mars, Sammael, Satan in the Hermetic tradition) it was he who caused Adam and Eve to be excluded from Eden, which meant they had to endure birth and death, in a lower frequency, material existence (the surface world.) Which is where we all are today. It was the duty of all Maya, through tests and initiation, to conquer death (the gods of the underworld) and so cease to be reincarnated but remain in the higher heavens. Achieving this Afterlife was the sole purpose of existence for Ancient Egyptians.

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Dean,

I don't think I have told you this before, and I don't really know if
this is as unique as I belive it to be. An acquaintance of mine
have been in the Great Pyramids a couple of times. The first time
he was there as a leader for a bunch of spiritual minded people
in Europe. They were sitting in the pyramids for hours doing
some kind of rituals. They did not see anything unusual in the
pyramids then, though he, Ananda, took the opportunity to sneak
into the ass of the sphinx. I don't know if that is well known, but
there is a chamber in the ass of the sphinx..

The second or third time, I am not really sure, he came back to
the Giza plateau the Kheops pyramid was closed. There were
preparations going on for the millennium ceremony, that was at
least the official reason. Ananda went on another little sneaking
adventure again where he went down in a shaft that was closed
off. He took some pictures, you can see them on his site:
www.akasha.de/~aton. If I remember correctly he tried to go
back there a second time, but then he was caught by the guards
as he climbed over the iron bar door that protected the entrance.
He was then brought to Hawas (spelling?), I think that was the
name of the one who owns the plateau. Hawas was quite angry,
but Ananda claimed that he had not seen anything down there
because it was dark. He didn't tell that he found the light switch.

So after being threatened with years in jail Hawas was asking
Ananda if he could help him with something. Ananda wanted to
have a look inside the Keops pyramid and Hawas said yes, for a
considerable fee, of course. The fee was paid by a wealthy
women that was with Ananda on this trip along with Ananda's girl
friend and maybe a couple of others. This little group went into
the pyramid and they filmed what they saw. And I have seen that
film.

Down in the ground chamber they had done some digging and
you could see that there was a shaft continuing downwards and
at the bottom, still filled with sand so it might not be the bottom,
there seemed to be a small tunnel going horizontally. They had
not been been digging enough to confirm this yet. In the Queens
chamber there was a small cave into a second chamber behind
the queens chamber. The interesting thing in that chamber was
that it was filled with bat excrements. How did the bats get in
there in the first place is the obvious question?

The third interesting thing that they saw, and filmed, was an
entrance before you go into the Kings chamber. Earlier that
entrance was blocked by a door, but this time the door was
open. Behind that door they found a small channel that they
obviously had tried to dig out to see where it was leading. The
amazing thing was that the air was blowing in there, it was a
suction. The channel was maybe 15cm*15cm. Where did that
channel lead to? Out or into a new chamber that had a
connection to the underground network? There is no movement
of air elsewhere in the pyramid, so why did the air move into that
channel?

When I saw that film and heard Ananda's story I was convinced
that something "big" is hidden from us in Egypt.

Frode

Dean,

I don't think I have told you this before, and I don't really know if
this is as unique as I belive it to be. An acquaintance of mine
have been in the Great Pyramids a couple of times. The first time
he was there as a leader for a bunch of spiritual minded people
in Europe. They were sitting in the pyramids for hours doing
some kind of rituals. They did not see anything unusual in the
pyramids then, though he, Ananda, took the opportunity to sneak
into the ass of the sphinx. I don't know if that is well known, but
there is a chamber in the ass of the sphinx..

Frode,

That friend of yours has guts to just up and sneak in like that. There are
certainly vast areas underneath the Sphinx which haven't been made public.
They have taken away the ornaments and artifacts which were inside. They
keep not only this, but the areas themselves, secret. They might lead to a
whole world underneath, a world which we shouldn't know about, or can't know
about.

I also wonder if the artifacts themselves wouldn't tell us something, such
as theage of the Sphinx, and the age of culture. The artifacts might
evenpoint out some kind of connection with Indo-European culture. What if
the artifacts suggested that Egypt was part of India's ancient culture? I
think that we are being kept in the dark about these types of implications,
too, not only about the existence of cavern worlds.

Dean

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Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underneath Pyramids and Mummification

My Brazilian friend Professor Arysio Nunes dos Santos, has placed the lost
Atlantis in the sunken Indonesian Islands, and believes Egyptian culture
came from the east. I suggested this may have been actually due to
civilization and religion arising from Shambhala in the Himalayas, because I
don't believe he's found Atlantis, however, he may have discovered the heart
of the long lost Mu, which Churchward claims sank in the Pacific during the
antediluvian flood. A missing part of the puzzle, but they may have been
part of a wordwide civilization, with the same sun-worshipping customs and
traditions.

Ananda, took the opportunity to sneak

> into the ass of the sphinx. LOL.

Hazel

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From: "Dean De Lucia" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2001 12:00 AM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underneath Pyramids and Mummification

Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: Underneath Pyramids and Mummification

> Dean,
>
> I don't think I have told you this before, and I don't really know if
> this is as unique as I belive it to be. An acquaintance of mine
> have been in the Great Pyramids a couple of times. The first time
> he was there as a leader for a bunch of spiritual minded people
> in Europe. They were sitting in the pyramids for hours doing
> some kind of rituals. They did not see anything unusual in the
> pyramids then, though he, Ananda, took the opportunity to sneak
> into the ass of the sphinx. I don't know if that is well known, but
> there is a chamber in the ass of the sphinx..

Frode,

That friend of yours has guts to just up and sneak in like that. There are
certainly vast areas underneath the Sphinx which haven't been made public.
They have taken away the ornaments and artifacts which were inside. They
keep not only this, but the areas themselves, secret. They might lead to a
whole world underneath, a world which we shouldn't know about, or can't

know

about.

I also wonder if the artifacts themselves wouldn't tell us something, such
as theage of the Sphinx, and the age of culture. The artifacts might
evenpoint out some kind of connection with Indo-European culture. What if
the artifacts suggested that Egypt was part of India's ancient culture? I
think that we are being kept in the dark about these types of

implications,

too, not only about the existence of cavern worlds.

Dean

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