[allplanets-hollow] Re: U.S. Military Transport Crashes in Antarctica

DD,

Maybe the plane didn't crash. Maybe they were pulled in by some sort of
tractor-beam, similar to the one that Admiral Byrd was commandeered by, and
they had just enough time to send a distress signal.

MM

DD,

Maybe the plane didn't crash. Maybe they were pulled in by some sort of
tractor-beam, similar to the one that Admiral Byrd was commandeered by,

and

they had just enough time to send a distress signal.

MM

Or made to crash because they were snooping where they shouldn't have? Maybe
things are m0ore testy than they were during the times of Byrd.

DD

SPACE MAPPING MISSION OF ANTARCTICA ABORTED DUE TO NSA OVER-RIDE

In a brief announcment today, NASA and the JPL terminated all further study
of Lake Vostok in S. Antarctica. In an apparent slip of confidentiality,
spokeswoman Debra Shingteller alluded to "National Security Issues" allowing
the NSA to assume full control of what had been an International effort to
explore a huge, under-ice lake near the Russian Vostok research station. Ms.
Shingteller was immediately led away from the podium, and an aid responded
to the many further questions with the same answer: "the project has been
halted due to environmental issues", and that no further releases were
pending. The large crowd of press corp. were left clamoring as the officials
left the stage. Ms. Shingteller has not responded to repeated attempts at
contact.

Members,

The transport went down in the Russian area, too. It seems that somebody got
too close, found out toomuch, and now they got rubbed out.

HE secrecy is still the order of the day, and it is still enforced. All
those thinking about an expedition have to take this into consideration.

Dharma/Dean

···

From: http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/antmag.html

--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., "Dean De Lucia" <0108@t...> wrote:

Members,

The transport went down in the Russian area, too. It seems

that somebody got

too close, found out toomuch, and now they got rubbed out.

HE secrecy is still the order of the day, and it is still enforced.

All

those thinking about an expedition have to take this into

consideration.

Dharma/Dean

Dean, you are absolutely right about the dangers of actually
trying to find any possible entrances, or even to explore those
areas which are thought of as "anomalous." The powers that be
simply won't let that happen.

This is my concern regarding Jan L.'s trip in search of the
northern entrance or anomaly.

I will cross-post this info to the other list, as I think it of extreme
importance.

Thanks

--Mike

Transport in Antarctica

   Dean and MM,

  Military planes practically crash all the time even here in the states.
Couldn't a crash in the Antarctic be just another crash? What the plane
was doing there is the big mystery but planes do crash and the envirnment
for flying is not so great down there.

Sean

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----- Original Message -----
From: <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 10:29 AM
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: About that crash of the U.S. Military

--- In allplanets-hollow@y..., "Dean De Lucia" <0108@t...> wrote:

> Members,
>
> The transport went down in the Russian area, too. It seems
that somebody got
> too close, found out toomuch, and now they got rubbed out.
>
> HE secrecy is still the order of the day, and it is still enforced.
All
> those thinking about an expedition have to take this into
consideration.
>
> Dharma/Dean

Dean, you are absolutely right about the dangers of actually
trying to find any possible entrances, or even to explore those
areas which are thought of as "anomalous." The powers that be
simply won't let that happen.

This is my concern regarding Jan L.'s trip in search of the
northern entrance or anomaly.

I will cross-post this info to the other list, as I think it of extreme
importance.

Thanks

--Mike

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   Dean and MM,

  Military planes practically crash all the time even here in the states.
Couldn't a crash in the Antarctic be just another crash? What the plane
was doing there is the big mystery but planes do crash and the envirnment
for flying is not so great down there.

Sean

Sean,

Could be, but the crash happened just when this Lake Vostok stuff is
surfacing, and just when the two girls were nixed, wherefrom I don't know.
And they crashed in the Russian area. How close to Vostok?

Lots of coincidences, but it could have just been one of those things,
that's true.

Dean

Members,

The thing about Vostok is that it is not too far away from the area
indicated by Radarsat as having bad resonances, or whatever. This area, of
course, is the area where Rod M. Cluff put a red circle on the Radarsat map,
fifth down, I believe: http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index6.html

The red circle area is kind of between Vostok and Mc Murdo, but closer to
the pole. Closer to 85*, like the Northern opening! Go look at an atlas. By
the way, going to the library and looking at the polar areas of a good atlas
is always good HE research.

Dharma/Dean

Here is a nice hollow Earth article by someone named Tim Swartz.

http://www.themestream.com/gspd_browse/browse/view_article.gsp?c_id=302361

" Thursday, January 18th. The wind that began yesterday had gone on blowing
from ... S.S.E., S.E., and E.S.E. [ But now he anticipates a change ] Let us
hope it is not bringing a Northerly wind ... It is curious that there is
almost always a rise of the thermometer with these stronger winds, today it
rose to 13* F below zero ( - 25* C ). A south wind of less velocity
generally lowers the temperature, and a moderate North wind raises it."

Again we run into the temperature anomaly, along the lines of the " mild air
" reported not far from there, but back in September ( their movement
perched on the ice current was only a couple of miles a day ). Now the
phenomenon - Warmer winds from the North than from the South, is more
pronounced because it is occurring in January. It is a phenomenon which has
been encountered by all Artic explorers. Although there could be various
explanations for this, the explanation according to a Hollow Earth
understanding practically arrests one's attention, and it is simply that,
since the polar opening was nearby, probably centered at 84.4* North in that
area, while Nansen was at 79* North, then a North wind coming out of the
interior could account for the warmer temperature.

And just to obtain an even better idea of how unusual the wildlife anomaly
was deemed to be, we'll reproduce his statement from page 154, also made
from 79* North: " But who expects to meet a walrus on close ice in the
middle of a wild sea of a thousand fathoms depth, and that in the heart of
winter? None of us ever heard of such a thing before; it is a perfect
mystery."

···

From: Seven Days North of Tibet

Just talked to a friend of mine who lives an hour or so south of me in
south-central Montana. He has family in Fairbanks. He says they have only 8
inches of snow on the ground instead of the usual 4 feet and the weather is
warmer there than here. If you look for weather data in Montana remember
Great Falls and Billings are lowland, probably 1500 feet lower for GF and
maybe a bit more for Billings. Gives people in other states the wrong
picture.Out of staters need to prepare for colder weather than they see on
the weather channel.

···

-----Original Message-----
From: Dean De Lucia [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 4:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Temperature anomalies

From: Seven Days North of Tibet

" Thursday, January 18th. The wind that began yesterday had gone on blowing
from ... S.S.E., S.E., and E.S.E. [ But now he anticipates a change ] Let us
hope it is not bringing a Northerly wind ... It is curious that there is
almost always a rise of the thermometer with these stronger winds, today it
rose to 13* F below zero ( - 25* C ). A south wind of less velocity
generally lowers the temperature, and a moderate North wind raises it."

Again we run into the temperature anomaly, along the lines of the " mild air
" reported not far from there, but back in September ( their movement
perched on the ice current was only a couple of miles a day ). Now the
phenomenon - Warmer winds from the North than from the South, is more
pronounced because it is occurring in January. It is a phenomenon which has
been encountered by all Artic explorers. Although there could be various
explanations for this, the explanation according to a Hollow Earth
understanding practically arrests one's attention, and it is simply that,
since the polar opening was nearby, probably centered at 84.4* North in that
area, while Nansen was at 79* North, then a North wind coming out of the
interior could account for the warmer temperature.

And just to obtain an even better idea of how unusual the wildlife anomaly
was deemed to be, we'll reproduce his statement from page 154, also made
from 79* North: " But who expects to meet a walrus on close ice in the
middle of a wild sea of a thousand fathoms depth, and that in the heart of
winter? None of us ever heard of such a thing before; it is a perfect
mystery."

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List Members,

I am going to post the above article to the Arctic section of my site. Take
a look.

Any feedback is welcome.

Dharma/Dean

Kirk,

Frode recently told me that it was -30 in South Central Norway, while it was
only zero*, 32* F, at the tip of Norway.

Polar warming is significant and typical. I think that the opening might be
larger at the neck than we have imagined.

Dharma/Dean

Just talked to a friend of mine who lives an hour or so south of me in
south-central Montana. He has family in Fairbanks. He says they have only

8

inches of snow on the ground instead of the usual 4 feet and the weather

is

warmer there than here. If you look for weather data in Montana remember
Great Falls and Billings are lowland, probably 1500 feet lower for GF and
maybe a bit more for Billings. Gives people in other states the wrong
picture.Out of staters need to prepare for colder weather than they see on
the weather channel.

From: Dean De Lucia [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2001 4:31 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Temperature anomalies

From: Seven Days North of Tibet

" Thursday, January 18th. The wind that began yesterday had gone on

blowing

from ... S.S.E., S.E., and E.S.E. [ But now he anticipates a change ] Let

us

hope it is not bringing a Northerly wind ... It is curious that there is
almost always a rise of the thermometer with these stronger winds, today

it

rose to 13* F below zero ( - 25* C ). A south wind of less velocity
generally lowers the temperature, and a moderate North wind raises it."

Again we run into the temperature anomaly, along the lines of the " mild

air

" reported not far from there, but back in September ( their movement
perched on the ice current was only a couple of miles a day ). Now the
phenomenon - Warmer winds from the North than from the South, is more
pronounced because it is occurring in January. It is a phenomenon which

has

been encountered by all Artic explorers. Although there could be various
explanations for this, the explanation according to a Hollow Earth
understanding practically arrests one's attention, and it is simply that,
since the polar opening was nearby, probably centered at 84.4* North in

that

···

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area, while Nansen was at 79* North, then a North wind coming out of the
interior could account for the warmer temperature.

And just to obtain an even better idea of how unusual the wildlife anomaly
was deemed to be, we'll reproduce his statement from page 154, also made
from 79* North: " But who expects to meet a walrus on close ice in the
middle of a wild sea of a thousand fathoms depth, and that in the heart of
winter? None of us ever heard of such a thing before; it is a perfect
mystery."

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Max,

Now I remember where Cater talked about positive charges on atoms; the first
paragraph of Chapter 11. I imagine that this would include water as well as
any other substance:

" Since the electrons move at much higher velocities in atoms than prtons
and cover much more territory, a higher percentage of their electrostatic
charge is transformed into magnetic energy. This means that the positive
charge in the atom will overbalance the negative charge, and give the atom
an overall, positive charge."

Here are some specific comments by him on water from chapter 14:

" The reason water has a great affinity for soft electrons must be made
clear. Water is a unique substance. It is comprised of two ele﷓ I merits
among the most chemically active and are gases. In fact, it is the only
stable compound which is a liquid at normal temperatures, and whose
molecules consist exclusively of gaseous elements. The fact that three
oxygen atoms can magnetically combine to form an ozone molecule indicates
that the oxygen atom is extremely magnetic. This means that a higher
percentage of its orbital electrons are moving in approximately the same
plane. This leaves fewer orbital electrons tending to offset the positive
charge of the nucleus and other portions of the atom. Consequently, two
sides of the oxygen atom possess an inordinately strong overall positive
charge. When the hydrogen atoms combine with an oxygen atom, the electrons
on the side of the hydrogen atoms adjacent to the oxygen atom are brushed
aside. (This is on the segment of the oxygen atom where most of the
electrons of the oxygen atom are orbiting). The normal flow of electrons
around the proton of the hydrogen atom are diverted to a flow which
encircles the oxygen atom and the outer periphery of the hydrogen atoms.
This results in a powerful bond between the hydrogen atoms and the oxygen
atom which is both electrostatic and magnetic. The electron flow around the
hydrogen atoms is extremely rapid. As a result, the overall positive charge
of the hydrogen atoms in this case is very high. Since there is a very
strong mutual repulsion between them, they will line up on opposite sides of
the oxygen atom. Thus the water molecule has the structure H-O-H.

The molecule created from this combination has strong and extensive positive
zones. The attraction zone is consequently a considerable distance from the
molecules relatively speaking. This is why the specific gravity of water is
low despite the strong positive charge of the molecules.

The great affinity of water for soft electrons is now apparent. The large,
positive zones between molecules are havens for soft electrons, drawn there
by the attenuated, but significant, attraction of the hard electrons
captured by the soft electrons. Although soft electrons are large compared
to hard electrons, they are still very small compared to an atom. Therefore,
the spaces between water molecules can harbor large quantities of soft
electrons, without their being bound to the water molecules."

Maybe now is becomes feasable how water can be imbued with soft electrons
and how the antigravity process sometimes displayed by water becomes
possible, i.e., mist floating, clouds don't fall.

At least I hope that you are coming to the conclusion that there is nothing
oversimplistic in Cater's presentation, whether or not you accept it.

Dharma/Dean

ralph,

The non lethal energy weapon is interesting. I hope they don't ever use it
to surpress fredom or suspend the constitution.

It is also interesting to me that they are working with electromagnetic
energy. They must know about the gravity-inducing effects of that frequency
between radar and infrared. This is just one of the toys that they let you
see.

Dharma/Dean

Did anyone read the Tim Swartz article. Is was nice.

Who is this hollow Earther whom nobody knows?

Dharma/Dean

List Members,

The third line down leads to nothing less than a full blown photographic
atlas of the Moon.

" The Lunar Orbiter Photographic Atlas of the Moon by Bowker and Hughes
(NASA SP-206) is considered the definitive reference manual to the global
photographic coverage of the Moon. The images contained within the atlas are
excellent for studying lunar morphology because they were obtained at low to
moderate Sun angles. This digital archive consists of the complete set of
675 plates contained in Bowker and Hughes. Images in the archive have been
enhanced to display the best photo quality possible. For accuracy and
usability surface feature information has been improved and updated, and
multiple search capabilities added to the database. More detailed
information about the digital archive process can be read in abstracts
presented at the 30th and 31st Lunar and Planetary Science Conference."

http://www.lunacity.com/space.html

What a resource! There are other nice resources on that page.

Dharma/Dean