[allplanets-hollow] RE: [HollowPlanets] blake and john mc fun :) (a bit off topic)

Frei_Blake · December 12, 2000, 7:55pm

Roy,

Thanks for your compliment. Your question is difficult to answer. How does
the HE play into the next life?

Mike Mott offered some scripture earlier from John 14..

2. In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have
told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

The Lord said to Joseph Smith in the 1800s:

"Let not your hearts be troubled; for in my Father's house are many
mansions, and I have prepared a place for you; and where my Father and I am,
there ye shall be also." (D&C 98:18)

Notice the subtle change in tense, from the Bible (I go to prepare a
place...) to the modern Doctrine and Covenants (I have prepared a place...).

Whatever Christ has been up to, he's been busy! But I wouldn't worry about
what is to occur in the next life. If our church is any indication, the Lord
likes to put his people to work and keep them busy. If you don't want to
work, get out of the way.

I guess the more immediate question is, What will people do during the
Millennium? What is that "marvelous work and a wonder" spoken of? I believe
it will be the Church of Jesus Christ working to redeem humanity--past and
present. I believe that if Satan is indeed bound during that time, the veil
will be thinned somewhat and we will work closely with those in the spirit
world, and with the lost tribes of Israel that return. So the HE could play
a large role in whatever occurs, and could be a commonly-visited place.

But are those mansions Christ refers to within the hollow earth? Or are they
other worlds and heavens? Whose to say exactly when or where. Perhaps those
mansions are rewards that are given after the Millennium--which is going to
be a long time!

Blake

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-----Original Message-----
From: ROY BARRUS [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2000 8:35 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] RE: [HollowPlanets] blake and john mc
fun (a bit off topic)

Blake,

You are doing a good job of representing The Church of Jesus Christ of
Latter-day Saints. One of the questions we all need to ask ourselves
is, even if we do prove the HE theory and are allowed to live there,
what happens when we die? Where do we go? What role do we play? Is
there an organized plan or a purpose to continuing life after this
life? The teachings of the above mentioned church are the only
teachings that I am yet aware of that seem to answer with affirmity what
this plan or purpose is. I hope we have goals and ambitions beyond the
HE alone.

Roy

"Frei, Blake" wrote:

John,
More God stuff...

Scriptures are clear (Biblical, in this case) that there are many
Gods...

Genesis 3:5

For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall
be
opened, and ye shall be as GODS, knowing good and evil.

Genesis 1:26

And God said, Let us make man in OUR image, after our likeness: and
let them
have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air,
and
over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing
that
creepeth upon the earth.

The point of confusion between the LDS church and other beliefs comes
from
(1) understanding the nature of God, and (2) knowing whom to worship.
Everyone agrees that we are only supposed to worship one God, our
creator.
Because other mainstream theologies have had no revelation concerning
the
nature of God, and continue to misinterpret scripture, they think that
there
is only one God. This belief originates from a doctrine mandated at
the
council of Nicene by some men who never saw God or knew Christ.
Further,
people have taken the good belief all should worship only one God to
an
extreme by saying that Christ and God must, therefore, be the same
person.

Just because a Mormon will claim that there are many gods, or that we
have
the potential to be like God, doesn't mean we worship all of them. We
worship God the Father (Elohim), who is our creator and the creator of

countless worlds and people. He is THE MAN. We believe he is the
father of
Jesus Christ (Jehovah) and all those who have lived on this earth. We
worship God the Father through Jesus Christ, our brother, because
following
Christ's example is the only way to return to God. Equal respect is
given to
both God the Father and Jesus Christ because they are equals in both
purpose
and righteousness, but each play different roles. Christ is the
example, the
Savior of this people and this world. Under the Father's supervision,
Christ
is a "creator" because he created this physical world and all things
on (and
in) it. (Whereas God the Father created us and the world spiritually,
first). We pray to the Father in Christ's name, as instructed. Christ,
in
every respect, is like his father. That accounts for two Gods right
there.

We know that by following Christ's example we can become like God.
It's a
sweet message. Not everyone agrees with it--and, quite frankly, I
don't
understand why.

Blake

-----Original Message-----
From: john mcalpin [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2000 8:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [HollowPlanets] blake and john mc fun (a bit off
topic)

rod

i, personally, have no problem with this multiple god's
concept; however, as i said, i would normally prefer to use
some other term than "God" (at least, God with a capital G) to
refer to this multiplicity of gods. but, that is a semantics
thing.

i am not at all familiar with this "Archo" thing. what is
this? is the christian mainstream accepting of this
document? and, is there any biblical evidence for the
existence of multiple gods?

john mc

"Rodney M. Cluff" wrote:
>
> John,
>
> It is interesting that No. 1 item on the list Caiaphas,
> High Priest of the Sanhedrim had for condemning Jesus
> Christ to death was: "First, with teaching the doctrine
> that there are more gods than one, which is contrary to the
> teachings of Jewish law, which he (Jesus) most positively
> refuses to desist from in the presence of this court."
> - p. 114, The Archo Volume, the historical records of Jesus.
>
> It would seem that "mainstream christianity" is more inline
> with the Jewish relgion rather than what Jesus taught. The
> LDS religion comes directly from Jesus Christ, no changes,
> no if's, ors, ands or buts. It is the gospel of Jesus Christ
> restored in its purity -- the true christian religion.
>
> In fact, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is
> destined to become the mainstream religion during this
> millennium. In a recent article in US
> News and World Report, it was reported that because of it's
> rapid growth, the LDS church will be the 2nd largest christian
> religion by 2080. That's because we adhere strictly to
> the actual teachings of Jesus Christ, who is it's head.
>
> Rod
>
> Next Year in Eden!
>
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> all be hollow bodies?
> Amazingly, the answer is Yes!
> And very likely inhabited within!
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> ---- On Fri, 17 Nov 2000, john mcalpin ([email protected]) wrote:
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> > <html><body>
> > <tt>
> > 
> > blake :) 
> > 
> > with your belief about "god" / "gods," it is no
> > wonder why the 
> > mainstream christian community view you and your church as a 
> > cult. your beliefs are very different from the christian 
> > mainstream. 
> > 
> > this is NOT a condemnation of you or your church !!! it is 
> > just an observation :) 
> > 
> > i totally understand your perspective about god and gods, and 
> > basically i can see the possibility of the truth in it. the 
> > problem is simply one of semantics (in other words, there is 
> > NO problem) hehe i just dont define the term
> > "god" in 
> > the same way you do. 
> > 
> > for me, "god" is that universal matrix of consciousness
> > from 
> > which ALL other things have sprung - this would include the 
> > things which you call gods. 
> > 
> > one of these days i am going to have to join your church :) 
> > 
> > john mc 
> > 
> > :) 
> > 
> > p.s. OH -- another question for you... please tell me
> > what 
> > the mormon church teaches "The Holy Spirit" to actually be.
> > 
> > what exactly IS "The Holy Spirit" from the Mormon
> > perspective 
> > ?? 
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