Gerry wrote:
Hi, Jan, Dean, Rod, and All.
First off, Dean, I was very taken with your new site-section: "Images", and
must profess my sincerest admiration for your interesting and very
professional-looking website - even though I don't fully comprehend all the
Vedic aspects of it!
Dean Writes:
Thanks, Mac!
Gerry writes:
Anyhow, to get down to brass tacks. I thank you for your message of Wed Dec
6, 2000, and it appears that we are now principally in agreement as to the
general location of a North Polar hole. I recently received (after an
agonising long wait) a copy of the wall-poster: "Age of the Ocean Floor",
which is a finely-produced piece of work, jointly produced by the NOAA and
six other organizations - which include well-respected US, Canadian,
Australian and French oceanic and geological institutions. Beside an
excellent coloured chart of the ocean floor geology, the poster also depicts
five excellent 3-D projections of the global ocean-beds, including great
depictions of the polar regions.
The Northern polar global view gives an excellent rendering of the bare
Arctic ocean floor, (at top-centre of the poster), and it is this which I
find surprisingly enlightening. If you wish to get a preview of it -
(unless you already have this same poster ), I suggest that you check out
the following -
- where you'll find a small colour-image of this poster, which can be blown
up to a fairly decent size by clicking on it!
Referring back to your text under the satellite-image Earth view. I would
suggest that, from my own perusal of ocean floor data, the "hazy, bluish"
triangular-crescent area of ice cover just above the New Siberian Islands is
located directly above what is, in fact, the very start of the tectonic
Mid-Atlantic Ridge ( this first section also being known as the "Nansen
Cordillera") which runs almost from the very side of the New Siberian
Islands and zig-zags across the pole and down the side of Greenland, under
Iceland, and on into the North Atlantic, and that, being a very highly
volcanic part of the ocean floor, this magma-extruding fracture is probably
responsible for the warm water in the sector you mention.
According to my comparisons with the actual ocean floor and your third
illustration - which shows Nansen's route to the Pole - he must have
travelled virtually directly above this hot ocean-floor fracture for much of
his trip across the ice! Hence the anomalous open stretches of warmish
sea, and mammals and land-birds, etc. that Nansen encountered!
Dean Writes:
The " magma-extruding fracture " can have a hand in the warmer waters which
Nansen encountered, but I don't think that it has to become, therefore, a
lone cause. It doesn't explain the existence of mammals so far away from
land, at least not very well.
Gerry wrote:
Because of this tectonic rift, I believe that any polar "hole" would need to
be located well aside from this plate-fracture zone - precisely as is
revealed in that global view of the Arctic ocean floor - which I've
mentioned above - in the top central image of the poster! Don't just take
my word for it. You can check and compare all this for yourself! You will
find substantial corroboration there, too, of your suggested "elongated
slit-like opening" - which corresponds quite well with the Russian magnetic
meridian concept! Thus it would seem, therefore, that, if this is indeed
the Polar Hole, it's not a circular one, but rather more of a triangular
aperture!
Before I close, Dean, let me ask you to glance back at your first "Image".
(The satellite photo of the ice-covered polar region, culled by Rod Cluff).
I am pretty well convinced that the actual position of both the "hole" (and
the Pole) is about 20mm above that first bluish patch you mention, under
the next mauve-coloured patch (which rather resembles a valley beneath the
peak of Mount Everest). Can you see what I'm driving at?
I feel we might actually finally be getting somewhere with all this, by
comparing a variety of different images from far less- biased sources, don't
you? I just can't really see any sane reason why these particular images
would have needed to be tampered with - especially when the one on the
poster distinctly shows a triangular black hole in the Arctic Ocean sea
floor! Be interested to hear, Dean, what you and Jan make of all this.
I'd also like to hear your views too, Rod!
List Members,
My interesting correspondence with Gerry continues:
Dean Writes:
You said: " I am pretty well convinced that the actual position of both
the "hole" (and the Pole) is about 20mm above that first bluish patch you
mention, under the next mauve-coloured patch "
This is still right at about 84.4* latitude. On my Images page, in that
first caption, I brought it down to 79* because the bluish part of that
first " image " seemed lower than Rod's 84.4* However, that bluish part
doesn't have to BE the opening, of course. It can be indicative of the
opening because warmer waters of the opening can typically flow into and
through that bluish patch and, of course, your comments about the volcanic
ridge below Nansen's route warming that area can also apply. So I think we
are back to Rod's 84.4* as a latitude. I really think that we are all on the
same page in this regard.
Rod mentioned that: " It is interesting that the north atlantic ridge
terminates just west of the New Siberian Islands."
Again, this accomodates 84.4* N and 141* East.
By the way, once one gets to 85* latitude, there isn't much difference
between 141* of longitude and, say, 135*, right?
Dean