Dean,
I tried entering to poll again, but failed. I cannot get through a certain
point.
MM
Mike,
I clicked on the address and it took me to a page immediately. Then I
clicked on " yes," and then on vote at the bottom, then got out. Allin less
than a minute.
DD
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Dean,
I tried entering to poll again, but failed. I cannot get through a certain
point.MM
Dean, it always want's me to log in first and I have forgotten my login and
PW for Yahoo. It would be nice if these things could be put up on a web
page where we didn't have to login every time. That way newbies could see
it too.
Will
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on 05/20/2001 5:46 AM, Dean De Lucia at [email protected] wrote:
Mike,
I clicked on the address and it took me to a page immediately. Then I
clicked on " yes," and then on vote at the bottom, then got out. Allin less
than a minute.Yahoo | Mail, Weather, Search, Politics, News, Finance, Sports & Videos
DD
Will,
I think you are right about that. This is probably killing the whole atempt.
Because I am the owner of the list, I had to get my act together in relation
to the login and password. But I went about six months on this list without
ever going into the part that controls things, and without ever looking up
an old post, counting new members, unsubscribingpeople, messing with polls,
or any of that, because I couldn't remember my password.
So then, I rememberregistering again and gettinganother password. I gave the
controlling site my password, but it was a new password, and had no relation
to the site, so the site wouldn't accept it. this ent on and on until I
finally went a looked up some old papers that I had thrown ina bag in the
bottom drawer of the file cabinet ( yes, I am that bad ), and I finally
found that stupid password. Now I've got it written everywhere so I can
always find it.
I think that we'll have to do something different. I'll just try asking a
question, and I'll give my personal e-mail address, and people can click
back to me, and I''ll tally things up on paper and get back in touch with
the list with the results.
DD.
Dean, it always want's me to log in first and I have forgotten my login
and
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PW for Yahoo. It would be nice if these things could be put up on a web
page where we didn't have to login every time. That way newbies could see
it too.Will
List Members,
Marshall gardner had the idea that there was an ice barrier around the outer
Arctic Ocean and that inside, there was open polar sea leading to the
orifice. It is not exactly like that.
Still, the logic behindthe open polar seaidea doesnot have to be abandoned,
because it seemsto be at work. There is a large section of polar sea which
is typically open all year 'round, every year. I passed around that
satellite image of the area last night from my images page:
http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index6.html
It may look like a small, fuzzy triangular area, but the area is huge. One
could sail for a week or two in that area, as Nansen did. It is the same
area depicted in Nansen's own chart, but in nansen's chart, it is hard to
see because the chart is so small. It is on the same page, labelled.
The new point I am emphasizing is that the area is typically open. Gardner
makes this point in relation to Lt. Wrangel below, on page 135 of his book,
A JOURNEY TO THE EARTH'S INTERIOR:
" HAYES AGREES WITH WRANGEL
Before leaving Hayes, however, we may briefly note a number of interesting
observations he makes all of which go to support our explanation of the true
nature of the polar regions. Lest it he thought that the foregoing accounts
of open water were, simply due to temporary conditions it may be noted- on
Hayes' authority- that as early as the time when Baron Wrangel, then a young
lieutenant in the Russian navy made his polar attempts it was clearly proved
that the open water to the north was always open whatever the time of year.
He also quotes Dr. Kane's findings, whose explorations preceded his own and
have been already, described here. It may be noted that Wranger found the
open polar sea from an almost opposite point in the polar circle while Parry
discovered it to be open from a point above Spitzbergen."
And on page 118, Gardner relates:
" As far back as the days of Barentz, in 1596, without referring to the
earlier and more uncertain chronicles, water has been seen to the eastward
of the northernmost cape of Nova Zemlya; and until itslimited extent was
defined by direct observation it was assumed to be the sea itself."
The area east of Nova Zemlya is the area above the New Siberian Islands,
where Nansen went, and which is shown in that satellite image at the top of
the page.
So there you have it. As far back as 1596 that area has been known to be
open. And it is at one end, exactly, of where we all assume the opening to
be, such that currents emanating from the inner world through the opening
could typically pass through there and keep that section of the ocean free
of ice. Volcanic activity is not constant and would not typically keep the
area open.
What I am saying to you all is that you shouldn't discount the earlier logic
along the lines of an open polar sea; it just got modified a bit, that's
all.
Dean