[allplanets-hollow] Nuke war on the surface

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Frode,

There are many mind control and oppressive dictatorships still in existance
even as we speak. These wackos are still building up arms and attempting to
create nuclear weapons so they can bring the U.S.A. to its knees with
terroristic acts. It only takes a single lunatic to get through the defences
with a suitcase size nuclear bomb to destroy and entire metropolitan area.
Is Rome going to be destroyed by a nuclear attack from the sea like
Nostrodomus suggests? Is a terrorist group going to finally build or acquire
a black market nuclear device? If so, what then? They don't seem to value
life, or democracy, or civilization for that matter. They only have their
own agendas to wreak havoc on society or the western world and their
fanatical causes are the only thing that matters. Then there's China. They
have the bomb, the manpower, the attitude, and the need to expand. The B!
lue
Turbin Anti-Christ from the Arab nations and the Yellow Beast from the East
are prominant aspects of the turmoil yet predicted. Y2K is nothing compared
to the volumes of legitimate sources warning of this destructive era.

Again, though, along with these predictions are the accompanying predictions
that a certain selected group of people will be led to a place of safety
while this carnage is taking place to wait it out. Is it in Etidorhpa that
talks about forests of mushrooms in the interior which is there to feed the
refugees from the wars in their flight from the surface of the earth? If not
in Etidorhpa, then perhaps in the book The Underpeople and others.

I'd like to think that we, who are aware of the possible existance of such a
place of refuge, would be the ones inclined to be taking that flight if the
time ever comes in our lifetimes requiring that desparate escape.

Why would someone think that the information in Etidorhpa is so important
that it needs to be told at all costs?

Does the society that holds the secrets of its entrance location want to
reserve this escape route for themselves?

All I'm saying is that there are many possibilities, and the more knowledge
that we have about what makes up the structure of the earth can only help.

Let's keep searching, shall we?

Norlan

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Rod,

With regards to the first and last two images on this page, I'd like to work up to a question, to get your opinion.

http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index6.html

A while ago somebody suggested that the warmth responsible for the " open sea " area, as Nansen described it, was volcanic and that it originated on the floor of the Artic Basin, i.e., the Nansen Cordillera/the mid Atlantic fault. But it seems that, although these two come close to the open seas area, they don't actually come up to it; and the currents, as Nansen found out, don't head Easts towards the open area but rather, from the open seas area, head back out the polar basin towards the North Atlantic.

This again suggests to me that, while other causes may be at work, currents from the opening must be the principal cause of the warming which cause that open seas area.

I've already made the point that the anomalous temperatures of the Arctic atmosphere would not at all be caused by underwater volcanic activity nor air currents from the Equator, I won't repeat those arguments. But now it seems that volcanic activity doesn't completely explain the open polar sea in that area, which seems to be typically open. I mean, if this were the case, how come the Arctic sea directly above the mid Altantic fault and the cordillera haven't typically been open and melted?

I think that you made this point briefly before, when we were discussing with Gerry, so I just wanted to get some feedback from you.

How is www.ourhollowearth.com
coming along?

Please respond to the list.

Dean

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Members,

On page 380 of The Ultimate Reality, Cater points out that some of Baron Von Reichenbach’s experimenting supports the idea of the Earth’s gravitational field consisting of a negative, electrostatic charge:

" Some of Von Reichenbach’s experiments also demonstrated that negative charges are repelled by a gravitsational field. In these experiments, the poles of very strong magnets with long flames were situated in a horizontal direction The following passage, from pages 303-304 of his treatise, explains what happened:

It first shot out some distance

limb

**horizontally in the direction of theof the magnet, then rose in a curve upwards and formed a
quadrant, so that it at length it flowed vertically upward ( at its point . ...

Thus the odic flame is sent sent out from the poles of the magnet with a

certain.force, na impetus is communicated to it, which drives it forth

from the poles; but on the other hand, a tendency is implanted in it to ascend in the air....

The influence of the magnetic field close to the poles [ of the magnet ] was too great for the Earth’s gravity to have any

effect on the concentrations of soft electrons. Strong magnets give many of the particles momentum, which takes them beyond the influence of the field. Such particles then come under the influence of the Earth’s gravity and are repelled upward. It should he noted that the odic flame represents only the disintegrating particles. 'hhe bulk of the particles captured by the magnet arc invisible."
Obviously, if the negatively charged soft electrons were repelled instead of attracted, then it follows that the force of gravity involves a negative charge, too.

Dharma/Dean

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Etidorhapa on the nature of subterranian light- According to Mr. Cate, this light manifests as soft particles finally disintegrate and loosen harder, visible particles:

I observed as we walked along its edge that the shore of the lake was precipitous in places, again formed a gradually descending beach, and the dead silence of the space about us, in connection with the death-like stillness of that rigid mass of water and its surroundings, became increasingly impressive and awe-inspiring. Never before had I seen such a perfectly quiet glass-like surface. Not a vibration or undulation appeared in any direction. The solidity of steel was exemplified in its steady, apparently inflexible contour, and yet the pure element was so transparent that the bottom of the pool was as clearly defined as the top of the cavern above me. The lights and shades of the familiar lakes of Western New York were wanting here, and it suddenly came to my mind that there were surface reflections, but no shadows, and musing on this extraordinary fact, I stood motionless on a jutting cliff absorbed in meditation, abstractedly gazing down into that transparent depth. Without sun or moon, without apparent source of light, and yet perfectly illuminated, the lofty caverns seemed cut by that aqueous plane into two sections, one above and one below a transparent, rigid surface line. The dividing line, or horizontal plane, appeared as much a surface of air as a surface of water, and the material above that plane seemed no more nor less a gas, or liquid, than that beneath it. If two limpid, transparent liquids, imniiscible, but of different gravities, be poured into the same vessel, the line of demarkation will be as a brilliant mirror, such as I now beheld parting and yet uniting the surfaces of air and water.

Lost in contemplation, I unconsciously asked the mental question
" Where are the shadows?"

My guide replied:
" You have been accustomed to lakes on the surface of the earth; water that is illuminated from above; now you see by a light that is developed from within and below, as well as from above. There is no outside point of illumination, for the light of this cavern, as you know, is neither transmitted through an overlying atmosphere nor radiated from a luminous center. It is an inherent quality, and as objects above us and within the lake are illuminated alike from all sides, there can be no shadows."

···

To: List Members

From: Dharma/Dean

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List Members,

I have some more of Etidorhpa up- I'll be working on it until New Year's, so I might not be too active on the list. It's that time of year anyway, to get involved in the holidays and all.

We do have another poll in progress. It would be interesting just to know how many of you have even one hollow Earth book at all. Don't worry, you don't have to leave your name. Here is the page for it: http://www.egroups.com/polls/allplanets-hollow

Dharma/Dean

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We've had a lot of postings about soft-particles.

Now for the sake of discussion 'consider' Earth as a complete self-
contained eco-system. Try to follow a whole cycle. What are all of
the pieces that would comprise such a cycle. Scientists are going to
have to figure it out to terra-form Mars, we might as well get a jump
start on them. Besides, when the sun-dogs reappear, the aborigines
know an ice-age is imminent- it always has happened. At some point
Earth may have to be re-terraformed also.

It might also be worth considering that we are not experiencing a
greenhouse effect here; we are getting double input from our own
sun's waves because waves that use to just go out are now hitting
wavelengths from extinguished stars and reflect and refract waves
back to us.

Scientists may soon discover that the universe is not expanding. If
they were to look at the atomic spectra a little closer they will
soon discover that the waves are no longer lengthening.

From what I've learned it is very rare that a planet is inhabited on
the outside. It makes sense. We don't travel on the outside of our
airplanes or space shuttles. Space is not particularily hospitable.

Tuscan

To: List Members

From: Dharma/Dean

Etidorhapa on the nature of subterranian light- According to Mr.

Cate, this light manifests as soft particles finally disintegrate and
loosen harder, visible particles:

I observed as we walked along its edge that the shore of the lake

was precipitous in places, again formed a gradually descending beach,
and the dead silence of the space about us, in connection with the
death-like stillness of that rigid mass of water and its
surroundings, became increasingly impressive and awe-inspiring. Never
before had I seen such a perfectly quiet glass-like surface. Not a
vibration or undulation appeared in any direction. The solidity of
steel was exemplified in its steady, apparently inflexible contour,
and yet the pure element was so transparent that the bottom of the
pool was as clearly defined as the top of the cavern above me. The
lights and shades of the familiar lakes of Western New York were
wanting here, and it suddenly came to my mind that there were surface
reflections, but no shadows, and musing on this extraordinary fact, I
stood motionless on a jutting cliff absorbed in meditation,
abstractedly gazing down into that transparent depth. Without sun or
moon, without apparent source of light, and yet perfectly
illuminated, the lofty caverns seemed cut by that aqueous plane into
two sections, one above and one below a transparent, rigid surface
line. The dividing line, or horizontal plane, appeared as much a
surface of air as a surface of water, and the material above that
plane seemed no more nor less a gas, or liquid, than that beneath it.
If two limpid, transparent liquids, imniiscible, but of different
gravities, be poured into the same vessel, the line of demarkation
will be as a brilliant mirror, such as I now beheld parting and yet
uniting the surfaces of air and water.

Lost in contemplation, I unconsciously asked the mental question
" Where are the shadows?"

My guide replied:
" You have been accustomed to lakes on the surface of the earth;

water that is illuminated from above; now you see by a light that is
developed from within and below, as well as from above. There is no
outside point of illumination, for the light of this cavern, as you
know, is neither transmitted through an overlying atmosphere nor
radiated from a luminous center. It is an inherent quality, and as
objects above us and within the lake are illuminated alike from all
sides, there can be no shadows."

···

--- In [email protected], "Dean" <0108@t...> wrote:

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I have several and was able to vote, but I noticed that "NONE" wasn't
available as a choice. Only those with books can vote. Just letting
you know....

Danelle

P.S. Hi Rod.

List Members,

I have some more of Etidorhpa up- I'll be working on it until New

Year's, so I might not be too active on the list. It's that time of
year anyway, to get involved in the holidays and all.

We do have another poll in progress. It would be interesting just

to know how many of you have even one hollow Earth book at all. Don't
worry, you don't have to leave your name. Here is the page for it:
http://www.egroups.com/polls/allplanets-hollow

···

--- In [email protected], "Dean" <0108@t...> wrote:

Dharma/Dean

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Danelle,

I goofed- If I change it now, all of the previous voting gets erased.

But we can just assume that if someone didn't vote they probably don't have
a hollow Earth book.

Dean

···

I have several and was able to vote, but I noticed that "NONE" wasn't
available as a choice. Only those with books can vote. Just letting
you know....

Danelle

P.S. Hi Rod.

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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Nuke war on the
surface
Norlan,

I don't know of any greater mind controlled and oppressive
nations then the U.S.A. Ok! Maybe I exaggerate a little, but I don't
think it is too fare from the truth. And in the greater scheme of
things I think it is good. People need resistance to wake
up.

To view the world through prophesies color your mind to the
extent that one is not able to see what really is going on. I
have been into that for close to ten years, and I must honestly say
that it did not really contribute any value other then the learning
experience and a nice house in the Norwegian mountains where the flood
can not reach me.

So I am safe,

:slight_smile:

Frode

···

Frode,

There are many mind control and oppressive dictatorships still in
existance

even as we speak. These wackos are still building up arms and
attempting to

create nuclear weapons so they can bring the U.S.A. to its knees
with

terroristic acts. It only takes a single lunatic to get through
the defences

with a suitcase size nuclear bomb to destroy and entire metropolitan
area.

Is Rome going to be destroyed by a nuclear attack from the sea
like

Nostrodomus suggests? Is a terrorist group going to finally
build or acquire

a black market nuclear device? If so, what then? They
don't seem to value

life, or democracy, or civilization for that matter. They only
have their

own agendas to wreak havoc on society or the western world and
their

fanatical causes are the only thing that matters. Then there's
China. They

have the bomb, the manpower, the attitude, and the need to expand.
The B! lue

Turbin Anti-Christ from the Arab nations and the Yellow Beast from the
East

are prominant aspects of the turmoil yet predicted. Y2K is
nothing compared

to the volumes of legitimate sources warning of this destructive
era.

Again, though, along with these predictions are the accompanying
predictions

that a certain selected group of people will be led to a place of
safety

while this carnage is taking place to wait it out. Is it in
Etidorhpa that

talks about forests of mushrooms in the interior which is there to
feed the

refugees from the wars in their flight from the surface of the earth?
If not

in Etidorhpa, then perhaps in the book The Underpeople and others.

I'd like to think that we, who are aware of the possible existance of
such a

place of refuge, would be the ones inclined to be taking that flight
if the

time ever comes in our lifetimes requiring that desparate escape.

Why would someone think that the information in Etidorhpa is so
important

that it needs to be told at all costs?

Does the society that holds the secrets of its entrance location want
to

reserve this escape route for themselves?

All I'm saying is that there are many possibilities, and the more
knowledge

that we have about what makes up the structure of the earth can only
help.

Let's keep searching, shall we?

Norlan
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