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Opening Statement: FRAGGLE ROCK presented by Ds Thompson

JIM Henson's Fraggle Rock does not ship in the cardboard boxes of the common
television series.Because this Cavern Realm is filled with He(HOLLOW EARTH)
caves and the colorful creatures, and most of all, progress. Not the type of
progress that shovels and pollutes but a progress that unites.

FRAGGLE Rock features four races which speak the same language but choose not
to hear each other. The ponderous Gorgs rule the Universe(OUTER EARTH) (EARTH
SURFACE) yet cannot "see the big picture," being so near-sighted(ASLEEP). The
tiny Doozers who value hard-work and creation of new caverns ignore the
Fraggles who live in such a brittle harmony with them because they cannot
understand their culture of playfulness and the intricate balance of
specialization that binds Fraggle society. Finally, the Silly-Creatures of
Outer Space(OUTER EARTH) (EARTH SURFACE) will only dream of the magic in the
limestone caverns beneath their feet, until they learn to see with their
hearts.

BUT from caves, characters, themes and revelations, Fraggle Rock continues
forward toward this resolution: to unite the worlds which seemed so unaware
of each other in the beginning.I have to say this is very interesting hence
its HE atmosphere,and how it merged as a household name.I think we should
explore JIM Henson's Fraggle Rock ...

I have a Few question?Do you think the firmament was ice or water?Did it act
as a telescopic lens?
Did the firmament create a bubble that allowed prolonged human life?
What if the HE has a firmament bubble atmosphere?

http://www.biblicalastronomer.org/geocentricity/ft.htm

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Is this for real? Did Fraggle Rock have a HE theme?

DD

Opening Statement: FRAGGLE ROCK presented by Ds Thompson

JIM Henson's Fraggle Rock does not ship in the cardboard boxes of the

common

television series.Because this Cavern Realm is filled with He(HOLLOW

EARTH)

caves and the colorful creatures, and most of all, progress. Not the type

of

progress that shovels and pollutes but a progress that unites.

FRAGGLE Rock features four races which speak the same language but choose

not

to hear each other. The ponderous Gorgs rule the Universe(OUTER EARTH)

(EARTH

SURFACE) yet cannot "see the big picture," being so near-sighted(ASLEEP).

The

tiny Doozers who value hard-work and creation of new caverns ignore the
Fraggles who live in such a brittle harmony with them because they cannot
understand their culture of playfulness and the intricate balance of
specialization that binds Fraggle society. Finally, the Silly-Creatures of
Outer Space(OUTER EARTH) (EARTH SURFACE) will only dream of the magic in

the

limestone caverns beneath their feet, until they learn to see with their
hearts.

BUT from caves, characters, themes and revelations, Fraggle Rock continues
forward toward this resolution: to unite the worlds which seemed so

unaware

of each other in the beginning.I have to say this is very interesting

hence

its HE atmosphere,and how it merged as a household name.I think we should
explore JIM Henson's Fraggle Rock ...

I have a Few question?Do you think the firmament was ice or water?Did it

act

···

as a telescopic lens?
Did the firmament create a bubble that allowed prolonged human life?
What if the HE has a firmament bubble atmosphere?

http://www.biblicalastronomer.org/geocentricity/ft.htm

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Frode and All,

I just got a letter from Mr. Cater. I had asked him why light from the inner
world wasn't visible beaming out of the polar orifices.

First of all he responded about the nature of light in the inner world. He
said: " The light from the so called central sun is dull and does not emit
any concentrated rays. the light experienced in the hollow Earth does not
come from this so-called sun."

Frode, this makes so much sense. The soft particles which break up on their
way through the earth's shell liberate photons of light and illuminate
cavern worlds. They break up due to friction with other frequencies of soft
particles, not so much due to any friction with matter of the Earth's shell.
In the hollow cavity, they would continue to break up and emit light. Thus
Olaf described the rich colors although he described the sun itself as dull.
I want so much to go there!

About light beaming out, or not beaming out, through the orifices, this is
now partly explained. The light is generated in an omnipresent manner, it is
not beamed from a localized source.

About the lack of " beaming," he said: " No light shines out of the North
opening for obvious reasons. Most of the opening contains no atmosphere.
Thus nearly all the soft electrons ejected out of the opening do not
disintegrate and thus no light is the result [ no photons are liberated ].

Frode-

I think that we have been looking in the wrong direction. We have
anticipated a role for the central sun which it does not have, basing our
anticipation on the sun of our experience. A so-called, dull "sun " is there
because soft particles congregate in the center of the hollow cavity. They
no doubt experience some friction and break up, releasing some light. But
all throughout the cavity the soft particles, which are newly introduced
though the shell, experience friction with soft particles bouncing around at
different frequency, and disintegrate, releasing light all over the place.

I just wish that I could visit with the guy, but I don't live in Seattle.

Dharma/Dean

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Dean:

Does Mr. Cater live in Seattle?

I think that what Mr. Cater says to you about the light in the HE, that the same concept is just being introduced in Ch. 25 of Etidorhpa. I wondered about the light particles as I read this chapter a few days ago, and was under the impression that in a HE a person would be surrounded by light from all angles and positions, not just from above, therefore, there would be no direct hovering of light above a HE opening. If that is correct, then I would speculate that there is indeed other entrances which remain hidden from our view, since we have been looking for an entrance by focussing on what lies above it in our skies.

Etidorhpa talks a bit about the the light in CH. 25, beginning on the middle of page 147 of the 1976 paperback: I Am the Man asks his guide about the lake:

"But I see no evidence of heat or even motion of any kind."

"Not here", he replied; "in this place there is none. The energy is developed thousands of miles away, but since the phenomena of volcanic action are to be partially explained to you at a future day, I will leave that matter for the present. We shall cross the lake."

I observed as we walked along its edge that the shore of the lake was precipitous in places, again formed a gradual descending beach, and the dead silence of the space about us, in connection with the death-like stillness of that rigid mass of water and its surroundings, became increasingly impressive and awe-inspiring. Never before had I seen such a perfectly quiet glass-like surface. Not a vibration or undulation appeared in any direction. The solidity of steel was exemplified in its steady, apparently inflexible contour, and yet the pure element was so transparent that the bottom of the pool was as clearly defined as the top of the cavern above me. The lights and shades of the familiar lakes of Western New York were wanting here, and it suddenly came to mind that there were surface reflections, but no shadows, and musing on the extraordinary fact, I sat motionless on a jutting cliff absorbed in meditation, abstractly gazing down into that transparent depth. Without sun or moon, without apparent source of light, and yet perfectly illuminated, the loft caverns seemed cut by that aqueous plane into two sections, one above and one below a transparent, rigid surface line. The dividing line, or horizontal plane, appeared as much a surface of air as a surface of water, and the material above that plane seemed no more nor less a gas, or liquid, than beneath it. If two limpid, transparent liquids, immiscible, but of different gravities, be poured into the same vessel, the line of demarkation will be a brilliant mirror, such as I now beheld parting and yet uniting the surface of air and water.

Lost in contemplation, I unconsciously asked the mental question:

"Where are the shadows?"

My guide replied:

"You have been accustomed to lakes on the surface of the earth; water that is illuminated from above; now you see by a light that is developed within and below, as well as from above. There is no outside point of illumination, for the light of this cavern, as you know it, is neither transmitted through an overlying atmosphere nor radiated from a luminous center. It is an inherent quality, and as objects above us and within the lake are illuminated from all sides, there can be no shadows."

Musingly, I said:

"That which has occurred before in this journey to the unknown country of which I have been advised, seemed mysterious; but each succeeding step discovers to me another novelty tat is more mysterious, with unlooked-for phenomenon that are more obscure."

"This phenomenon is no more of a mystery that is the fact that light radiates from the sun. Man can not explain that; and I shall not now attempt to explain this. Both conditions are attributes of force, but with this distinction--the surface of the earth, is here refined and softened, and the characteristic glare and harshness of the light that is known to those who live on the earth's surface is absent here. The solar ray, after penetrating the earth's crust, is tempered and refined by agencies which man will yet investigate understandingly, but which he can now not comprehend.

···

----- Original Message -----

From:
Dean De Lucia
To: [email protected]

Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 6:42 PMSubject: [allplanets-hollow] A letter from Mr. Cater

`Frode and All,

I just got a letter from Mr. Cater. I had asked him why light from the inner
world wasn't visible beaming out of the polar orifices.

First of all he responded about the nature of light in the inner world. He
said: " The light from the so called central sun is dull and does not emit
any concentrated rays. the light experienced in the hollow Earth does not
come from this so-called sun."

Frode, this makes so much sense. The soft particles which break up on their
way through the earth's shell liberate photons of light and illuminate
cavern worlds. They break up due to friction with other frequencies of soft
particles, not so much due to any friction with matter of the Earth's shell.
In the hollow cavity, they would continue to break up and emit light. Thus
Olaf described the rich colors although he described the sun itself as dull.
I want so much to go there!

About light beaming out, or not beaming out, through the orifices, this is
now partly explained. The light is generated in an omnipresent manner, it is
not beamed from a localized source.

About the lack of " beaming," he said: " No light shines out of the North
opening for obvious reasons. Most of the opening contains no atmosphere.
Thus nearly all the soft electrons ejected out of the opening do not
disintegrate and thus no light is the result [ no photons are liberated ].

Frode-

I think that we have been looking in the wrong direction. We have
anticipated a role for the central sun which it does not have, basing our
anticipation on the sun of our experience. A so-called, dull "sun " is there
because soft particles congregate in the center of the hollow cavity. They
no doubt experience some friction and break up, releasing some light. But
all throughout the cavity the soft particles, which are newly introduced
though the shell, experience friction with soft particles bouncing around at
different frequency, and disintegrate, releasing light all over the place.

I just wish that I could visit with the guy, but I don't live in Seattle.

Dharma/Dean

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Dean:

Does Mr. Cater live in Seattle?

  • Leslee,
  • Yes ma'am.

I think that what Mr. Cater says to you about the light in the HE, that the same concept is just being introduced in Ch. 25 of Etidorhpa. I wondered about the light particles as I read this chapter a few days ago, and was under the impression that in a HE a person would be surrounded by light from all angles and positions, not just from above, therefore, there would be no direct hovering of light above a HE opening.

  • No direct beaming shooting out from the hole, yes. But the rationale that Mr. Cater is giving is that the hole is so tremendously wide at the neck that there is no atmosphere in the middle, only along the sides. If there is no atmosphere, then the little bit of diffuse light which does flow outwards doesn't have anything to reflect off of.
  • More than that, though, you have to remember that the light which is seen shooting out of the opening, i.e., the auroras, is generated as it flows out along the sides where there is atmosphere, because the accelerated soft particles break up into their constituent photons as they experience friction through the atmosphere. Since there is no atmosphere in the center of the doughnut hole, there is no friction to produce light.
  • H.D. Northrup did state that there was a ring of light off towards the Pole which was constant during the Arctic night. This refers to a constant flow of soft particles which break up into light, and some diffuse light from within already broken up, which hugs the sides of the doughnut-light opening as it flows out.

If that is correct, then I would speculate that there is indeed other entrances which remain hidden from our view, since we have been looking for an entrance by focussing on what lies above it in our skies.

  • Yeah, but in order to have an opening so wide that the atmosphere stretches across it such that there is the " vacuum "of space in the middle, well, it has to be hundreds of miles wide at the neck. Cater feels that the neck of the opening is 600 miles wide at the neck. If there were other openings, that big, they would be visible.
  • That doesn't mean that there can't be tunnels and connecting cavern worlds which go there, though. I really wonder about Tibet. I've heard that Tibet was at the pole at one time. have you ever noticed that several mountain chains lead right up to the Tibetan plateau from all sides around? It makes you wonder.

Etidorhpa talks a bit about the the light in CH. 25, beginning on the middle of page 147 of the 1976 paperback: I Am the Man asks his guide about the lake:

  • Leslee,
  • Yes, this portion of Etidorhpa is very appropriate-

"Where are the shadows?"

My guide replied:

"You have been accustomed to lakes on the surface of the earth; water that is illuminated from above; now you see by a light that is developed within and below, as well as from above. There is no outside point of illumination, for the light of this cavern, as you know it, is neither transmitted through an overlying atmosphere nor radiated from a luminous center. It is an inherent quality, and as objects above us and within the lake are illuminated from all sides, there can be no shadows."

  • Light which is generated by a breakup of soft particles all around does not cast shadows. My problem is that I was artificailly distinguishing between the type of light generated in the cavern worlds of Etidorhpa and the type of light generated in the hollow portion. I was thinking that because there is a sun in the hollow portion, that it would be the chief generator of light, i.e., a single source. But the soft particles break up in the hollow portion just like they do in the caverns. They break up not in contact with matter of the Earth's shell, but due to friction with other soft particles, which are abundant in the hollow cavity.
  • Leslee, you have caught on completely- more power to ya!

DD

"But I see no evidence of heat or even motion of any kind."

"Not here", he replied; "in this place there is none. The energy is developed thousands of miles away, but since the phenomena of volcanic action are to be partially explained to you at a future day, I will leave that matter for the present. We shall cross the lake."

I observed as we walked along its edge that the shore of the lake was precipitous in places, again formed a gradual descending beach, and the dead silence of the space about us, in connection with the death-like stillness of that rigid mass of water and its surroundings, became increasingly impressive and awe-inspiring. Never before had I seen such a perfectly quiet glass-like surface. Not a vibration or undulation appeared in any direction. The solidity of steel was exemplified in its steady, apparently inflexible contour, and yet the pure element was so transparent that the bottom of the pool was as clearly defined as the top of the cavern above me. The lights and shades of the familiar lakes of Western New York were wanting here, and it suddenly came to mind that there were surface reflections, but no shadows, and musing on the extraordinary fact, I sat motionless on a jutting cliff absorbed in meditation, abstractly gazing down into that transparent depth. Without sun or moon, without apparent source of light, and yet perfectly illuminated, the loft caverns seemed cut by that aqueous plane into two sections, one above and one below a transparent, rigid surface line. The dividing line, or horizontal plane, appeared as much a surface of air as a surface of water, and the material above that plane seemed no more nor less a gas, or liquid, than beneath it. If two limpid, transparent liquids, immiscible, but of different gravities, be poured into the same vessel, the line of demarkation will be a brilliant mirror, such as I now beheld parting and yet uniting the surface of air and water.

Lost in contemplation, I unconsciously asked the mental question:

"Where are the shadows?"

My guide replied:

"You have been accustomed to lakes on the surface of the earth; water that is illuminated from above; now you see by a light that is developed within and below, as well as from above. There is no outside point of illumination, for the light of this cavern, as you know it, is neither transmitted through an overlying atmosphere nor radiated from a luminous center. It is an inherent quality, and as objects above us and within the lake are illuminated from all sides, there can be no shadows."

Musingly, I said:

"That which has occurred before in this journey to the unknown country of which I have been advised, seemed mysterious; but each succeeding step discovers to me another novelty tat is more mysterious, with unlooked-for phenomenon that are more obscure."

"This phenomenon is no more of a mystery that is the fact that light radiates from the sun. Man can not explain that; and I shall not now attempt to explain this. Both conditions are attributes of force, but with this distinction--the surface of the earth, is here refined and softened, and the characteristic glare and harshness of the light that is known to those who live on the earth's surface is absent here. The solar ray, after penetrating the earth's crust, is tempered and refined by agencies which man will yet investigate understandingly, but which he can now not comprehend.

From:
Dean De Lucia
To: [email protected]

Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2001 6:42 PMSubject: [allplanets-hollow] A letter from Mr. Cater

`Frode and All,

I just got a letter from Mr. Cater. I had asked him why light from the inner
world wasn't visible beaming out of the polar orifices.

First of all  he responded about the nature of light in the inner world. He
said: " The light from the so called central sun is dull and does not emit
any concentrated rays. the light experienced in the hollow Earth does not
come from this so-called sun."

Frode, this makes so much sense. The soft particles which break up on their
way through the earth's shell liberate photons of light and illuminate
cavern worlds. They break up due to friction with other frequencies of soft
particles, not so much due to any friction with matter of the Earth's shell.
In the hollow cavity, they would continue to break up and emit light. Thus
Olaf described the rich colors although he described the sun itself as dull.
I want so much to go there!

About light beaming out, or not beaming out, through the orifices, this is
now partly explained. The light is generated in an omnipresent manner, it is
not beamed from a localized source.

About the lack of " beaming," he said: " No light shines out of the North
opening for obvious reasons. Most of the opening contains no atmosphere.
Thus nearly all the soft electrons ejected out of the opening do not
disintegrate and thus no light is the result [ no photons are liberated ].

Frode-

I think that we have been looking in the wrong direction. We have
anticipated a role for the central sun which it does not have, basing our
anticipation on the sun of our experience. A so-called, dull "sun " is there
because soft particles congregate in the center of the hollow cavity. They
no doubt experience some friction and break up, releasing some light. But
all throughout the cavity the soft particles, which are newly introduced
though the shell, experience friction with soft particles bouncing around at
different frequency, and disintegrate, releasing light all over the place.

I just wish that I could visit with the guy, but I don't live in Seattle.

Dharma/Dean

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The Daniel Ross book:

[http://www.wexclub.com/ExtraTerrestrial/pages/uce.htm](http://www.wexclub.com/ExtraTerrestrial/pages/uce.htm)

``

DD

7

Hey Blake,

Check out " On Crystal Wings." Those have to be roads down there.

http://www.kksamurai.com/moon/crystalline.html

DD

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If NASA were capable of reaching the moon in a tin bucket, almost four decades ago, why haven’t they been back on a regular basis to either explore it’s still unexplained anomalies, or establish a base, not even in the aurora spaceplane? Or have they? Let’s face it, no-one knows what the shuttle does up there. We see it take off, we see it land, but we see no footage of it’s interim journey in space. However, the space program seems to have bypassed the moon for Mars or Europa or anywhere else.

The alleged moon landing, was either a hoax, or they were warned off by ET’s and every orbitor and voyager since, has been sabotaged by them. But, another theory implies that the reason the cosmonaughts were disgruntled by their mission was because when they got to the moon, Americans were already in residence, with far superior (electromagnetic) spacecraft than the ‘decoy’ Apollo module they arrived in.

Ed Mitchell has gone on the record, openly declaring that Area 51 is the proverbial ‘Big Brother’ in operation and an inclement threat to us all.

Hazel

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----- Original Message -----

From:
Dean De Lucia

To: [email protected]

Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 1:07 AM

Subject: [allplanets-hollow] On Crystal Wings

Hey Blake,

Check out " On Crystal Wings." Those have to be roads down there.

http://www.kksamurai.com/moon/crystalline.html

DD

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