[allplanets-hollow] Mike Mott's book

Hi,

The east central area of Alabama and the west central area of Georgia comprise what is known as the Troup-Heard Corridor (THC) :

http://www.ufomind.com/place/us/ga/lagrange

Besides the hundreds of UFO sightinings that have taken place in this area, there have been abductions http://isur.com/articles/john_int.html

and reports of such critters as Bigfoot and demons

http://www.isur.com/articles/corridor.html .

GSU

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From: "Dean" [email protected]

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To: >Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Mike Mott's book>Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 13:42:20 -0200>>Members,>>Here is a sample of the stuff from Mike Mott's book; you can see why I think>it is so appropriate. The underground abductions which are going on- IMHO->really affect people's lives.>>Dharma/Dean>>>>>THE MORE THINGS CHANGE, THE MORE THEY STAY THE SAME>> Norman L. (his name changed at his request), a single father>living in the mountainous region of> North Alabama, is one person who can testify to the truth of>this continued intrusiveness. His> wife had become deeply involved in caving (spelunking), leaving>Norman and their toddler> daughter to care for themselves most of the time. The wife>became engrossed and fascinated> with the past-time of caving, and often reported to her husband>of seeing UFOs during some of> the expeditions made with her hard-partying friends,>multiple-day trips into remote and> sometimes almost-inaccessible areas near "wild" caves and pits.>The marriage began to> deteriorate for a variety of reasons, many of them traceable to>the obsession of the wife for> spelunking; and strange phenomena began to occur around the>house when the wife was> home, or on the rare outing with the family.>> Around nine one evening this family of three paid a visit to a>local department store, one of the> type which incorporates "mart" into its name. This store was>located near a large ridge of> mountains which ran alongside the eastern edge of the town,>mountains which are> honeycombed with caves and pits. The oldest part of the town>itself is said to sit atop an> ancient network of caverns, around which many local legends>revolve. So husband, wife, and> child cruised the aisles of the supermarket, when both adults>became aware of an intense> sense of presence.>> The back corner of the store was unusually dark, as if some of>the lighting were either dimmed> or out. At the end of an intersecting aisle a strange figure>lurked, literally leering at them as> they walked by. According to Norman L., this figure was>hideously malformed, in that he had no> discernable neck, almost no chin, misshapen ears and facial>features, and a decidely evil,> grimacing disposition. His eyes were squinted and piggish, his>head literally "squarish." His> rounded, hunched body was wrapped in very loose clothing,>primarily an immense flannel shirt> which hid the true contours of his body. His attitude was>definitely menacing as he transferred> his gaze from the man, to the child riding in the shopping cart.>He leaned forward as if to get a> better look.>> Norman stepped forward defensively, even though he was filled>with an instinctive revulsion by> this being. He insists that the person they encountered wasn't>human, an opinion that his wife> at the time had concurred with. Norman's take on this strange>voyeur?>> "He simply wasn't a human being. He looked human in a>fundamental, first-glance kinda way,> but he was something else. He had a strong air of evil and hate>about him. He actually looked> like a troll.">> Upon seeing Norman's reaction, the creature slunk back into the>shadows of the aisle and was> soon left behind.>> Over the next year, the marriage dissolved and ended. Norman>ended up with custody of the> daughter, and took her with him everywhere. One night they>visited a below-ground-level> toystore in a local multi-level shopping mall; with the>exception of the sales clerk standing near> the front of the store, they were the only people in the place.>Or so it seemed.>> As his young daughter squatted to play with toys on the bottom>of the shelf, Norman became> aware of another presence. He turned to see a small child>slowing meandering down the aisle> toward them, seemingly a thin little girl of about five or six>years of age. Suddenly this "child"> made a quick move toward his daughter, and Norman scooped her up>and took several steps> back.>> "It wasn't a little girl," he says. "It was wearing a dingy>yellow dress, had a girl's shoes and> socks on, and its hair looked loose on its head, like a straight>black wig, very artificial in> appearance--kind of like a "Prince Valiant (haircut)." Its skin>was abnormally pale, the eyes> wide-set and almost at the side of its head, 'wrapping around>the edge,' sort of. The eyes were> almond-shaped, turning up at the outer edges, but squinty, and>they were pure black or dark> brown. There were no whites to the eyes at all! They were like>ink.">> Thinking that perhaps this being was an unsupervised, malformed>or mentally-handicapped> child, Norman took his daughter and moved over an aisle; the>little being followed them almost> immediately. This was repeated twice, but the being stood off, a>bit warier than before, still> staring fixedly at Norman's daughter. He picked her up and they>looked around the store for the> parent of the "disturbed child," but there was no other shopper>in the place. Aggravated,> Norman complained to the cashier at the front of the store,>asking that he have the parents of> the child come supervise "it.">> The cashier reacted with complete surprise. "You and your>daughter are the only customers in> the store, sir," he said. A quick look determined that this was>in fact so, and no one had exited> by way of the only way of egress in the front of the business. A>quick look through the store by> both men failed to reveal the strange "child.">> Over time, many additional facts came out, largely gleaned from>the daughter, who had been to> visit her mother upon occasion. The child was terrified to make>these visits, indicating that,> among other things, she had been taken into wild, dangerous>caves, leaned over pits (and> allegedly almost dropped into one, to luckily be caught by the>mother's boyfriend), and other> such insanity. Eventually the mother's visitations were>terminated completely, but this raises> the question of motivation and influence--what would lead a>mother to risk the life of her child in> such a callous, almost sacrificial way? The child also witnessed>UFO manifestations during> one of the caving trips with her mother. Since that time, the>girl has grown to be a happy and> healthy teen, and no further instances of this type of encounter>have troubled her, or her father.>> First-hand accounts like this abound. Another account, also from>the mountains of east-central> Alabama, involves a group of children (now adults) who saw what>they termed "a leprechaun,"> following them through the woods one evening. Initially noticed>as he sat atop an outcropping of> mossy rock, this entity hopped down from his perch as the kids>passed, maintaining a> respectful distance, but he paralleled the children for miles,>scaring them badly. He was> described by the now-grown woman and two men as being some two>or three feet in height,> wearing green clothing, and looking quite sinister.>> It's interesting to note that the TAG (a National Speleological>Society term) or> Tennessee-Alabama-Georgia region is considered to be one of the>most densely caverned> areas in North America. Many accounts of mysterious lights,>UFOs, livestock mutilations, and> strange deaths and disappearances have come from this region.>Tales of "haints" and> "boogers" abound in the hills and mountains, and some spelunkers>joke to cover up their fear> when they talk about "hodags," unseen cave entities which cut>rope or pull it up behind cavers> after a descent; drop or throw rocks and boulders; mislead with>mysterious noises; and create> other such strange occurences.>


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Frode,

This description from The Guide in Etidorhpa, in the chapter called Matter is Retarded Motion, seems to correspond well to Cater's idea that matter is a matter ( no pun intended ) of disturbed motion, i.e., compacted ether particles which adhere to each other. Ether forms photon aggregates which for electrons and protons which combine together to produce atoms, which combine to produce molecules. It all begins when the ethers become compacted and adhere to each other.

Here is the description:

" Hold," I interrupted; " that would be as one quality of matter passing through another quality of matter without disturbance to either, and it is a law in physics that two substances can not occupy the same space at the same time."

That law holds good as man understands the subject, but bullets are no longer matter. Motion of mass was first changed into motion of molecules, and motion of molecule became finally augmented into motion of free force entities as the bullets disintegrated into molecular corpuscles, and then were dissociated, atoms resulting. At this last point the sense of vision, and of touch, ceased to be affected by that moving column ( neither matter nor force ), and at the next jump in velocity the atoms themselves disappeared, and free intangible motion resulted in nothing, vacancy.

" This result is the all-pervading spirit of space ( the ether of mankind ), as solid as adamant and as mobile as vacuity. If you can reverse the order of this phenomenon, and imagine an irregular retardation of the rapidity of such atomic motion, you can read the story of the formation of the material universe. Follow the chain backward, and with the decrease of velocity, motion becomes tangible matter again, and in accordance with conditions governing the change of motion into matter, from time to time the various elements successively appear.

Posted by Dharma/Dean

By the way,

Do feel free to download Etidorhpa, there is no copyright: http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index13.html

Dean

--- In [email protected], "Dean" <0108@t...>
wrote:

By the way,

Do feel free to download Etidorhpa, there is no copyright:

http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index13.html

Dean

Thanks, Dean.

Your site is looking GREAT, btw.

--Mike

Re: [allplanets-hollow] Matter is Retarded
Motion

Frode,
This description from The Guide in
Etidorhpa, in the chapter called Matter is Retarded Motion, seems
to correspond well to Cater's idea that matter is a matter ( no pun
intended ) of disturbed motion, i.e., compacted ether particles which
adhere to each other. Ether forms photon aggregates which for
electrons and protons which combine together to produce atoms, which
combine to produce molecules. It all begins when the ethers become
compacted and adhere to each other.

Think about this!

Can motion exist by itself?

There is never a Yin completely devoid of Yang

as well as a Yang completely devoid of Yin.

So, motion and matter are two concepts that are dependent on each
other.

One can't exist without the other.

Everything does not come out of nothing.It has to be
something.

It can't be both something and nothing at the same time.

:slight_smile:

Frode

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Here is the
description:
" Hold," I
interrupted; " that would be as one quality of matter passing
through another quality of matter without disturbance to either, and
it is a law in physics that two substances can not occupy the same
space at the same time."

That law holds good as
man understands the subject, but bullets are no longer matter. Motion
of mass was first changed into motion of molecules, and motion of
molecule became finally augmented into motion of free force entities
as the bullets disintegrated into molecular corpuscles, and then were
dissociated, atoms resulting. At this last point the sense of vision,
and of touch, ceased to be affected by that moving column ( neither
matter nor force ), and at the next jump in velocity the atoms
themselves disappeared, and free intangible motion resulted in nothing, vacancy.

" This result is the all-pervading spirit of space ( the ether of
mankind ), as solid as adamant and as mobile as vacuity. If you can
reverse the order of this phenomenon, and imagine an irregular
retardation of the rapidity of such atomic motion, you can read the
story of the formation of the material universe. Follow the chain
backward, and with the decrease of velocity, motion becomes tangible
matter again, and in accordance with conditions governing the change
of motion into matter, from time to time the various elements
successively appear.
Posted by Dharma/Dean

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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Matter is Retarded Motion

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Think about this!

Can motion exist by itself?

There is never a Yin completely devoid of Yang

as well as a Yang completely devoid of Yin.

So, motion and matter are two concepts that are dependent on each other.

One can't exist without the other.

Everything does not come out of nothing.It has to be something.

It can't be both something and nothing at the same time.

:slight_smile:

Frode

  • Frode,

Well, the guide seems to trace physical matter back to the atomic state ( see quote below ) and then, after a final jump in velocity, he defines it as " free, intangible motion." This to me referst o the ethereal stage. But then he says that the free, intangible motion results in " nothing, vacancy." How can something be nothing, all of the sudden? I am not a voidist. I actually did notice that as I was copying it and didn't feel comfortable with it. Except for his final result, reading Cater helped me to follow the Guide's process, but Cater, of course, does not seem to support the existence of nothingness at any point.

DD

Here is the description:
" Hold," I interrupted; " that would be as one quality of matter passing through another quality of matter without disturbance to either, and it is a law in physics that two substances can not occupy the same space at the same time."
That law holds good as man understands the subject, but bullets are no longer matter. Motion of mass was first changed into motion of molecules, and motion of molecule became finally augmented into motion of free force entities as the bullets disintegrated into molecular corpuscles, and then were dissociated, atoms resulting. At this last point the sense of vision, and of touch, ceased to be affected by that moving column ( neither matter nor force ), and at the next jump in velocity the atoms themselves disappeared, and free intangible motion resulted in ** nothing, vacancy**.

" This result is the all-pervading spirit of space ( the ether of mankind ), as solid as adamant and as mobile as vacuity. If you can reverse the order of this phenomenon, and imagine an irregular retardation of the rapidity of such atomic motion, you can read the story of the formation of the material universe. Follow the chain backward, and with the decrease of velocity, motion becomes tangible matter again, and in accordance with conditions governing the change of motion into matter, from time to time the various elements successively appear.

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Re: [allplanets-hollow] You got my
point!
Exactly!!

You wrote,

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but Cater, of course, does not seem
to support the existence of nothingness at any
point.
DD

I would disagree on this, Dean.

The 'universes' as we know them were initially the 'no-thing'
(nothing) but within the no-thing lay all possibility and probability-
everything. When the no-thing turned in upon itself it created
friction (imperceptable movement)- the first physics principle.

Eons of eternities have unfolded since then. The no-thing became
manifest- unfolding every-thing (to this point of progress). Within
every-thing is duality and polarity- right/wrong, good/bad,
light/dark, and everything else- planets, solar systems, intelligent
and non-intelligent species, etc. (all of which creates movement and
reflection).

Beyond the no-thing lies Supreme Intelligence, Universal Mind, to
some, God. To my way of learning 'every thing' was not created by the
SI (God). 'Every thing' "is" part and parcel "of" SI. We were not
created by god, we are god- an aspect of god, the unfolding of
everything- every possibility and probability. And every aspect,
every piece, was given the ability to be equal to the original. There
is no heirarchy in the universe, that is a creation of mankind. All
of this was initiated in an effort such that SI would 'know itself'
and never again be bored with it's perfection. In essence- make known
the unknown- forever, The Eternal Quest.

Re: [allplanets-hollow] Matter is Retarded MotionThink about this!
  Can motion exist by itself?
  There is never a Yin completely devoid of Yang
  as well as a Yang completely devoid of Yin.
  So, motion and matter are two concepts that are dependent on each

other.

  One can't exist without the other.
  Everything does not come out of nothing.It has to be something.
  It can't be both something and nothing at the same time.

  :-)

  Frode

  * Frode,

  Well, the guide seems to trace physical matter back to the atomic

state ( see quote below ) and then, after a final jump in velocity,
he defines it as " free, intangible motion." This to me referst o the
ethereal stage. But then he says that the free, intangible motion
results in " nothing, vacancy." How can something be nothing, all
of the sudden? I am not a voidist. I actually did notice that as I
was copying it and didn't feel comfortable with it. Except for his
final result, reading Cater helped me to follow the Guide's process,
but Cater, of course, does not seem to support the existence of
nothingness at any point.

  DD

    Here is the description:

    " Hold," I interrupted; " that would be as one quality of

matter passing through another quality of matter without disturbance
to either, and it is a law in physics that two substances can not
occupy the same space at the same time."

    That law holds good as man understands the subject, but bullets

are no longer matter. Motion of mass was first changed into motion of
molecules, and motion of molecule became finally augmented into
motion of free force entities as the bullets disintegrated into
molecular corpuscles, and then were dissociated, atoms resulting. At
this last point the sense of vision, and of touch, ceased to be
affected by that moving column ( neither matter nor force ), and at
the next jump in velocity the atoms themselves disappeared, and free
intangible motion resulted in nothing, vacancy.

    " This result is the all-pervading spirit of space ( the ether

of mankind ), as solid as adamant and as mobile as vacuity. If you
can reverse the order of this phenomenon, and imagine an irregular
retardation of the rapidity of such atomic motion, you can read the
story of the formation of the material universe. Follow the chain
backward, and with the decrease of velocity, motion becomes tangible
matter again, and in accordance with conditions governing the change
of motion into matter, from time to time the various elements
successively appear.

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I would disagree on this, Dean.

The 'universes' as we know them were initially the 'no-thing'
(nothing) but within the no-thing lay all possibility and probability-
everything. When the no-thing turned in upon itself it created
friction (imperceptable movement)- the first physics principle.

We might have to agree to disagree here and, of course, we are getting into
personal beliefs and away from the hollow Earth theory.

The point that Frode was making was that the Guide's belief in voidism, "
nothing," was where that little piece differed from Cater.

Buddhists are also voidists. I think that Buddhist teaching has a lot to
offe modern society, starting with Ahimsa, non-violence, so you can see that
I respect a person's belief.

But again, we are starting to get off topic.

Love to all,

Dharma/Dean

Jeff,

I really appreciated having that ESD publication which talked about the
factory which had the electrostatic barrier problem, but I think my finger
gave it the nix.

Do you still have it? Next time I would save it right away.

Dharma/Dean

I've got some drawing up on the Etidorhpa page. I'll be improving the
quality and trying out some other ones.

Dean

Dean wrote:

Jeff,

I really appreciated having that ESD publication which talked about the
factory which had the electrostatic barrier problem, but I think my finger
gave it the nix.

Do you still have it? Next time I would save it right away.

Yeah, here's a link to several stories:

http://www.esdjournal.com/static/static.html

...or, the original post by Sean:

http://www.egroups.com/message/allplanets-hollow/1246

Interesting stuff..

···

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Speaking of interesting stuff, years ago I was working together
with a vice-president of engineering for a local telephone company.
(I used to design telco equipment for orion-dc.com)
He was telling me that they would sometimes see some weird
stuff that would happened as the result of lightning strikes.

The only example he gave to me was mentioning that sometimes
they would examine telephone wire after a strike and the copper
in the wire would be completely gone. The plastic surrounding the
wire would be perfectly fine (non-melted) but there would be no
sign of copper. As if it just vaporized.

Jeff

Re: [allplanets-hollow]
Nothingness?

The point that Frode was making was that the Guide's belief in
voidism, "
nothing," was where that little
piece differed from Cater.

It is not a little piece Dean. Every mistake comes from mixing up
what appears to bee with what is . When I empty my mind
and enter a state of apparent nothingness I discover that that
nothingness contains everything. When the ego is dissolved one
experience what appears to bee nothing, but it is only nothing in the
sense that it take some time to see with the "ego-less"
eyes. It's a shift of perspective. The void and nothingness is not
real in any other sense then being the door. Before this civilization
can accept the reality of a hollow earth it has to go through that
door. But, all of us dread that door. Do you know that fear
Dean?

Frode

I recall the golfer Lee Trevino telling a story about how he and a
fellow golfer were once right by a lightning strike out on a golf course. I
forget the details but I recall him saying a strnge feeling came over him
within a split second after the strike and then his body was briefly lifted
up from the grass or levitated momentarily.

Sean

Dean wrote:
>
> Jeff,
>
> I really appreciated having that ESD publication which talked about the
> factory which had the electrostatic barrier problem, but I think my

finger

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Frohwein" <[email protected]>
To: <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2001 11:56 AM
Subject: Re: [allplanets-hollow] Electrostatic wall / high voltage

> gave it the nix.
>
> Do you still have it? Next time I would save it right away.

Yeah, here's a link to several stories:

http://www.esdjournal.com/static/static.html

...or, the original post by Sean:

http://www.egroups.com/message/allplanets-hollow/1246

Interesting stuff..

-----------

Speaking of interesting stuff, years ago I was working together
with a vice-president of engineering for a local telephone company.
(I used to design telco equipment for orion-dc.com)
He was telling me that they would sometimes see some weird
stuff that would happened as the result of lightning strikes.

The only example he gave to me was mentioning that sometimes
they would examine telephone wire after a strike and the copper
in the wire would be completely gone. The plastic surrounding the
wire would be perfectly fine (non-melted) but there would be no
sign of copper. As if it just vaporized.

Jeff

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Re: [allplanets-hollow] Nothingness?
Frode,

When I said " little piece," I was referring to the part which I quoted. I think that it would be common for us to say it that way.

Maybe you are saying that when we reach the point of cessation, a whole new reality opens up. Maybe it is fear or resentment which makes us reject a whole different reality. I guess you are saying that this is what makes it difficult to accept the HE Theory. It's like not being sure of the ground under your feet anymore, it can really shake your ego.

Dharma/Dean

···
The point that Frode was making was that the Guide's belief in voidism, "
nothing," was where that little piece differed from Cater.

It is not a little piece Dean. Every mistake comes from mixing up what
appears to bee with what is . When I empty my mind and enter a state of apparent nothingness I discover that that nothingness contains everything. When the ego is dissolved one experience what appears to bee nothing, but it is only nothing in the sense that it take some time to see with the "ego-less" eyes. It's a shift of perspective. The void and nothingness is not real in any other sense then being the door. Before this civilization can accept the reality of a hollow earth it has to go through that door. But, all of us dread that door. Do you know that fear Dean?

Frode

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Sean,

So it was you who posted that ESD thing- thanks.

I imagine that Lee Trevino experienced electrostatic antigravity.

DD

Re: [allplanets-hollow] Nothingness?
Hey All,

Here is a site of Pole shifts and the Earth's magnetic field. http://www.sciam.com/askexpert/geology/geology9/geology9.html

Dharma/Dean

Re: [allplanets-hollow] Ego
resistence?

Frode,
When I said " little piece," I
was referring to the part which I quoted. I think that it would be
common for us to say it that way.

You're right! I made a "little" mistake when I thought
you meant "of little importance".

:slight_smile: