Eric,
I must have missed it, too. Unless it was something sent out a while back. I
do recall something a while ago about Libertarianism coming through though.
MM
Now I hope you will bear with me because I am certain that the
paucity
of the sun's force or influence on earth tides has neither anything to do
with
soft particles of gravitational radiation nor the static force equation
that is
suggested by Newton that is so much larger than that of the moon.
THE EARTH ACTS LIKE THE SWINGING BUCKET, because although
the force of gravity that suggests that the stronger gravitational
product of the
Sun and the Earth ought to reflect a higher instead of lower
gravitational
influence on ocean tides than the earth, the very velocity of the orbit
keeps this
from being the case.
The Earth / Moon system orbits the Sun at the barrycenter. This
is the fulcrum
or balance point between the Earth and the Moon. This BARRYCENTER is the
basis
of the consideration for judging the difference between the lunar tides
and Solar
tides. If a baseball for example were to orbit the Sun at a position and
velocity
equivalent to the barrycenter, ALL THE FORCE OF GRAVITY WOULD BE
CANCELLED OUT IN THE BALANCE BETWEEN THE GRAVITATIONAL
FORCE OF THE BASEBALL TO FALL TOWARDS THE SUN AND THE LAWS
OF INERTIA TO AT ANY POINT IN TIME FLY OFF IN A STRAIGHT LINE
AND LEAVE THE SOLAR SYSTEM FOREVER.
Scott,
I've been reading over your explanation for the tides. I understand that the
barrycenter is a critical point, but first of all I question, where is the
barrycenter? Where does it begin? I've repeated some interesting comments
by Cater in this regard at the bottom. Please comment.
But I'm not here looking for an excuse to put forward Cater's theories, for
once ( don't anybody fall out of their chair ). I have a question: What are
you saying when you say that an object, a baseball, at the barrycenter would
fall towards the sun with its gravity cancelled out and fly off in a
straight line and leave the solar system forever? The sentence seems to be
mixed up there, and there seems to be a contradiction.
Then you say " This means that at any point in time, the portions of
the Earth's surface
that are closer to the Sun than the barrycenter are prone to sheering
forces in that direction.
They are a matter of no more than a thousand miles or so closer to the
sun than the
perfect balance point which is the barrycenter.
Now I am really confused. According to Cater's statement below, this
barrypoint is further away than 1,000 miles.
Cater's comments:
" The anemic jumping feats of the astronauts under alleged, one-sixth Earth
gravity, as shown on the telecasts, represent only part of the evidence of a
high moon gravity. The consistent reports of the point where the space
ships entered the gravitational influence of the moon indicated moon gravity
comparable to that of the Earth. If the Moon's surface gravity were only
one-sixth earth gravity, this point of entry, or the point where the
gravitational influence of the moon exceeds that of Earth, would be
approximately 22,000 miles from the moon. This can easily be confirmed by
elementary mathematics and mechanics and will not be given here. The
distance will vary slightly percentagewise because the Moon's distance from
the Earth fluctuates. Since the advent of the Apollo missions, the distance
reported reported for this point of entry has been consistently much greater
than 22,000 miles. The distances claimed by various writers, as well as the
media, have varied from about 39,000 to nearly 44,000 miles.
This is, indeed, incredible since it contradicts the consistent claims of a
low moon gravity. Interestingly enough, prior to the space program, this
distance was always given in the 20,000 to 22,000 range, corresponding to
one-sixth Earth gravity of the Moon. It can be found in a number of earlier
textbooks, including Encyclopedia Britannica. Yet, the later editions of
Encyclopedia Britannica put this distance at about the 40,000 mile range. "
I will re-send scott's explanation so that everyone can get a look at it and
refresh memories. It's important for the HET to get to the bottom of
gravity, and the behavior of tides tells us a lot.
But if it ain't your bag, don't worry about it.
Dharma/Dean
Now I am really confused. According to Cater's statement below, this
barrypoint is further away than 1,000 miles.
Dean,
What Cater write below has nothing to do with the Barycenter which is thousand miles below the Earth's surface. I don't know what the name of the specific point that Cater is writing about. If you find out, please tell me.
Frode
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Cater's comments:
" The anemic jumping feats of the astronauts under alleged, one-sixth Earth
gravity, as shown on the telecasts, represent only part of the evidence of a
high moon gravity. The consistent reports of the point where the space
ships entered the gravitational influence of the moon indicated moon gravity
comparable to that of the Earth. If the Moon's surface gravity were only
one-sixth earth gravity, this point of entry, or the point where the
gravitational influence of the moon exceeds that of Earth, would be
approximately 22,000 miles from the moon. This can easily be confirmed by
elementary mathematics and mechanics and will not be given here. The
distance will vary slightly percentagewise because the Moon's distance from
the Earth fluctuates. Since the advent of the Apollo missions, the distance
reported reported for this point of entry has been consistently much greater
than 22,000 miles. The distances claimed by various writers, as well as the
media, have varied from about 39,000 to nearly 44,000 miles.This is, indeed, incredible since it contradicts the consistent claims of a
low moon gravity. Interestingly enough, prior to the space program, this
distance was always given in the 20,000 to 22,000 range, corresponding to
one-sixth Earth gravity of the Moon. It can be found in a number of earlier
textbooks, including Encyclopedia Britannica. Yet, the later editions of
Encyclopedia Britannica put this distance at about the 40,000 mile range. "I will re-send scott's explanation so that everyone can get a look at it and
refresh memories. It's important for the HET to get to the bottom of
gravity, and the behavior of tides tells us a lot.But if it ain't your bag, don't worry about it.
Dharma/Dean
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