Dean,
I like you have been very intrigued by this tide factor and how
much
of the tidal effect is attributable to the sun and how much is accounted
for
by the moon. You state below that something is an "inescapable" fact.
After my study of tides which I spent some time on, I have determined
that
anyone who considers the tides strictly from the aspect of gravitational
influence is dealing only with static numbers and frankly in my book is
all wet.
The tides are very complex and by that I digress from the idea of
a
comparison of static forces being compounded by earth related
considerations
like environment, humidity, wind patterns, barometric pressure,
temperature or
any other earth based causalities that might be also interpreted to
effect the
activity of tides. These factors surely have their place but I consider
that tides
are more a function of the rotation of the planet and the acceleration
curve of the
planet earth as it orbits the Sun. There are mathematical calculations
for this, and,
I have even written a small program in Pascal to illustrate some of this
orbital function.
I have been trying to make up my mind each time this subject of
tides
comes up whether to spill what I know now or wait till later until I have
all the
particulars of my theory on tides worked out. Just to give you another
hint on this
though, consider the fact that the peak tide swell for the moon actually
doesn't correlate
to the point in time when the ocean is directly beneath the moon, or at
right angles to the
moon. The peak in my understanding doesn't occur after this moment but
actually slightly
before which would not be what one would assume to have happen if the
most important
factor was the point of closest proximity to the gravitational source.
In stating all of this I have not as yet read the article on
tides located at
http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index8.html. However, to
speculate that
the Sun produces less gravitational influence than the moon is incorrect
in the extreme!
You see it is my steadfast belief that the effect of the the Sun's
gravitational influence is
not even the correct question to ask. The sun could actually have 5 times
the amount of
gravitational influence than it does and it would not necessarily make
that much of a difference
on the actual height of tides. I am quite serious about this.
If live in the continental US and would give me your phone
number, I would like to call you
up and give you some of the particulars regarding my theory. You should
include the time and
day this should happen if you take me up on it.
Scott
Members,
I am interested in taking a look at Cater's comments about gravity
and the Sun. I don't want to do this in didactic sort of way- over the
last several months
we've gone over the arguments in favor of gravity as an electrostatic
force and it's probably
up to you all to consider and follow up as you please. But I am
interested in a little feedback
insofar as the strength of these two arguments which Cater presents in
relation to gravity and the
Sun. Would a physicist have an easy time with these arguments? Would
he be evasive and
say something about more research being needed.
Cater concludes that the Sun lacks a strong gravitational field because
it
has little effect on the tides ( from the chapter on tides ):
" The analysis of tides presented above
http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index8.html [ second
article down ] forms the basis for proving that the surface gravity of
the
Moon is greater than that on the sun. Since the sun and the Moon have
the
same apparent diameters, viewed from the Earth, tidal effects produced
by
them are directly proportional to their surface gravities. ...
gravitational effects vary inversely as the square of the distance
away. Their [
the Sun and the Moon ] aaparent diameters are inversely proportional to
the
distance; therefore, their apparent surface areas also vary inversely
as the
square of the distance Since the moon is a greater factor in producing
tides, the conclusion that the Moon has a greater surface gravity than
the
Sun is inescapable! To the orthodox mind this produces insurmountable
paradoxes. The time has come for these to be resolved. This can only be
accomplished by probing deeper into basic causes."He also concludes from the following observation of the solar surface
that
the Sun does not exhibit gravity in relation to its mass, i.e., that
gravity
is not caused by mass. From the subsection Gravitational Anomalies:
" The behavior of matte ejected by explosions on the Sun's surface
defies
all of the popular laws of gravity. This matter occasionally rises to
altitudes
of several hundred thousand miles. It does not follow a trajectory in
descending
as it is supposed to. Also, its speed of descent does not follow the
law of falling
bodies at any time. In fact, the velocity of fall is much lower than
expected. One
of the reasons is the low surface gravity of the Sun. Another reason is
the variable
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On Tue, 2 Jan 2001 12:42:30 -0200 "Dean" <[email protected]> writes:
quantity of negative charges which impregnate these masses."
Dharma/Dean
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