There is a discussion brewing on anothe list which might come here- I don't
like to discuss other people's books and such on their own list.
Just to keep you abreast, which I will always do with anything significant:
Gerry responds:
Dean.
Sorry if I confused you regarding my seeming ambivalence about whether or
not I believe there are holes at the poles (or more specifically, at the
North Pole). I obviously didn't make myself as clear as I should have done
about this!
What I was basically trying to get across was the fact that I couldn't see
any tangible evidence to support the existence of polar holes in the
photo-plates which Jan included in his book, or in his remarks about them in
the text as from page 365, under the subhead of "Space Photgraphs". I too
was almost convinced by their apparent genuineness, and felt exactly as Jan
did when I studied them - despite my own awareness of "photo-fakery"!
Prior to buying Jan's book, I 'd printed out some of these photos from other
sites on the Web, and had used them to convince friends of the existence of
an Arctic Ocean "hole" which communicated with the inner earth. However, the
photos in Jan's book and his commentary about them being nothing but
atmospheric features made me take a second long hard look at them all, and,
given the number of such "features" all around the planet's lower
atmosphere, I just couldn't see any real need for anyone to fake the photos!
If anything, there seem to be "holes" everywhere one looks in the pictures!
However, as I told you, I've also been carefully studying the Earth's crust
in the Arctic region via the results of bathymetric and radar-topography
scans, and when I discovered that polar "deep" I mentioned previously, I
became convinced that there could well be something in the Polar Hole idea
after all - even though the entrance might actually be submerged! I don't
see any physical reason why this could not be the case, but I'm quite
prepared to listen to reasonable arguments! (Note: Why don't we ever discuss
the Antarctic Polar Hole, too?)
Dean Writes:
Gerry,
All things said and done, I will be the first to say that there isn't
evidence of any polar opening in any photo, but I don't think that this
means that we have to think along the lines of a submerged one. For one
thing, most photos that have been analysed have bee taken from a sidelong
angle. For another thing, cloud cover and mist could cover the opening at
most times. Yet another consideration has to do with conspiracy on the part
of NASA, NATO and all them; it is not oversimplistic to think along these
lines. And finally, if the rays of the inner sun consist of lower frequency
particles, then this would account for the fact that such rays aren't
typically seen pouring out of any polar openings. Again, you don't have to
look for a submerged opening.
Gerry wrote:
Then I began to analyse my reactions to the "Smoky God" and Willis G.
Emerson's tale about the adventures of Olaf Jansen and his father, and I
wondered why so many clearly intellectual people set so much serious store
by what is so evidently a work of early science-fiction, written by a fellow
who was very well acquainted with the history of early North Polar
expeditions, and who obviously knew a great deal about seafaring and
navigation and the strange phenomena encountered in polar latitudes.
Do I believe Emerson's tale to be founded in truth myself? The reluctant
answer is a flat "No". I might have been mildly convinced, had it not been
for those extremely far-fetched references to "twelve-foot Hebrew Priests"
and the interior location of "Eden" and "its four rivers" - of which one -
the Euphrates - still flows in Mesopatamia, up here on the outer surface!
Whilst this notion might well appeal to the Mormon members of the group, who
are evidently still quite convinced that the "Lost tribes of Israel" went
north via North America, it cuts no ice with me. (If you'll forgive the
pun!).
Dean writes:
Gerry, the pun was unforgivable!
We can assume that Emerson " massaged " Smokey God in oder to make it
acceptable for a Christian public. Remember that Olaf dictated the book on
his death bed and had no say in what was finally published, nor do we still
have the original notes. According to somebody on this list, I don't
remember who, Emeson did admit that some interpolation had been added by
him.
But this is not my main justification for The Smokey God. Olaf's description
of the hollow Earth inhabitants, their size, the nature of the inner sun and
the atmosphere reported by Olaf all correspond well to what one would expect
given the hollow Earth model and soft particle physics which Joseph H. Cater
presents in The Ultimate Reality.
Olaf mentioned: " This great moisture and invigorating electrical light and
warmth account perhaps for the luxuriant vegetation, while the highly
charged electrcal air and the evenness of climatic conditions may have much
to do with giant growth and longevity of all animal life. In places the
level valleys stretched away for many miles in every direction. ' The Smoky
God ', in its clear white light, looked calmly down. There was an
intoxication in the electrically sucharged air that fanned the cheek as
softly as a vanishing whisper. "
Soft particles would account for the " electrical " nature of the sun, i.e.,
the soft light and the feeling of static electricity in the air.
Gerry wrote:
I thoroughly enjoyed Rodney Cluff's well-researched and scholarly "World Top
Secret...Our Earth IS Hollow!", but not being a Mormon, I had to skim over
his references to the LDS dogma (my apologies, Rod!), plus his allusions to
"The Smoky God" - and "Etidorpha" - an awfully ponderous work which I'm
currently plowing through. Sorry to have to say it, but in my humble opinion
such constant allusions to these two works of fiction are likely to be
counter-productive in seriously promoting the Hollow Earth theory to
sensible thinking people. Let's stick to a scientific approach and try not
to use such obvious fictions as crutches!
Dean Writes:
Obvious fictions? What is obvious is that if you stay within the limited
parameters of mainstream science you won't have there wherewithal to
understand a book such as Etidorhpa. For example, you don't even have enough
science at your disposal to understand the cause and nature of gravity, so
how could you understand the gravity shielding, or better termed
diminuition " of gravity described by Etidorhpa? Gravity as an
electrostatic charge would only penetrate up to a certain point in the
shell, and it would drop off gradually.
Soft particle penetration through the Earth's shell, in the ultimate issue
originating from the sun, would accounht for the type of light. The soft
particles serve to camouflage and even neutralize the visible particles of
light. However, after repeated agitation on their way through the Earth's
shell, they would tend to break up and display the type of lumiosity
described in Etidorhpa.
I have just posted, two days ago, an article dedicated to the physical
justification of the book phenomena described in the book Etidorhpa. Please
give it a chance, it would only take 5 minutes to read, maybe ten.
http://www.skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index13.html
Gerry wrote:
Also, even though I am an avowed Christian myself, I still believe that
religion of any creed or persuasion has been rather over-emphasized in this
debate. As far as I'm concerned, Jan Lamprecht's excellently argued and
scientifically-reasoned tour-de-force, "Hollow Planets", covers most of the
bases for me, and will henceforth be regarded as my "Bible" on the subject.
Dean writes:
Gerry,
Again, I feel that as long as we stay within the parameters of mainstrem
science, e.g., gravity related to the density of mass, we won't be able to
substantiate the HET; not that the thoery doesn't have a [hysical
justification, just that mainstrem physics have certain incongruencies and
limitations which aren't compatible with the HET. I didn't get the
impression that Jan wanted to go beyond these boundries in his book and
consequently, was not able to present a cohesive hollow Earth geological
model.
I would be more than willing to correspond along these lines privately or on
my list, where several Caterites have gathered.
Gerry wrote:
However, Dean, I very much admired your fine website - even though I'm not
into Hinduism, per se, I still suscribe to many of its philosophies, being
an ardent fan of the ancient Rama Empire, with all its highly advanced
technology and vimana aircraft. (BTW. What can you tell me about that lethal
ray weapon known as "Kapilla's Glance", that is spoken of by David Hatcher
Childress in one of his "Lost Cities" books?)
Dean writes:
Thanks to Cater's soft particle physics, I have an idea of how to explain
the phenomena of Kapila's glance. I have a purana which relates the story.
The phenomenon seems to be the same as that which occurs during spontaneous
human combustion. I imagine that the glance of the sage directed a beam of
low frequency, soft electrons into the bodies of the sons of Maharaj Sagara.
The human body, being mostly composed of water, would have quite an
attraction for such a beam. " The soft electrons, being in a highly
unstable condition as they enter the body, would quickly disintegrate after
the concentration exceeded a certain critical level. The high concentration
of hard electrons released would disintegrate [ burn! ] the cells."
( Cater )
Yogis such as Kapila can modulate the entrance of low frequency particles,
or any particles, into their bodies and, apparently, project them back out
again using some type of reverse vision. Kapila is not desceribed as a
native of this planet, although he has spent time here. So I can't exactly
describe his biological makeup in regards to his ability to " shoot out
low frequency beams through his eyes. A different sage, Muchukunda, also
displayed this ability.
Do keep in touch.
Dean
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