Frode,
It could be, who knows. There are myriad combinations of cosmic clouds out
there. However, the Van Allen Belt appears to be less of a conglomerate of
cosmic gasses and plasmic matter than it appears to be concentrated plasmic
matter. This similarity between the mirror bottle plasmic cloud and the Van
Allen Belt is what fascinates me. Science has a hard time catagorizing
plasmic entities. They are so unique that we still don't know much about
them.
Norlan
All,
Here's an interesting story I found in a book I bought at
Amazon.com:
In Alec Maclellan's book, THE HOLLOW EARTH ENIGMA, is an account
he found of a man of German descent who immigrated to America
where he became interested in the flying saucer phenomena.
Reinhold Schmidt was interviewed by reporter Charles Longcroft
of the Los Angles Examiner who wrote, "This is was the first
time I have ever been face to face with someone who claims to
have contacted space men or to have been inside a saucer ... My
impression is that the man has definitely seen something and is
not making the whole story up as a publicity stunt."
Reinhold Schmidt relates that at age 38 he was contemplating on
the subject of flying saucers after reading Frank Scully's book,
BEHIND THE FLYING SAUCERS (1950) when on August 14, 1958 he had
what he thought was a dream telling him drive to a quarry in
Bakersfield, California. After sitting around several hours, he
saw a silverly circular craft come down from the sky. Access to
it was by sliding doors and a ramp lowered to the ground. A
figure appeared in the doorway and flashed a ray on him
apparently to synchronize his body's electromagnetic field to
that of the craft. Others appeared and escorted him into the
craft. They also drove his car up the ramp so as not to leave
it in the quarry. They then took off and flew north towards
Alaska and up over the polar regions.
The crew consisted of four men and two women. Reinhold
described them as tall, with noble features dressed in gray,
one-piece, skin-tight suits. The women were especially
beautiful. They appeared in all respects as humans as we are.
They spoke in what Reinhold recognized as "high German" which
had been taught him by his parents. However, throughout the
entire trip, he was addressed in perfect English.
The craft appeared to be transparent which allowed him to look
out in all directions except where obscured by machinery,
control panels, couches, chairs or small tables. The latter did
not seem to be attached to the floor, but never moved with all
the crafts maneuvering. He was able to see out the
transparent walls of the craft throughout the journey up to the
Arctic Ocean, where he said, "We seemed to go under the Arctic
Ocean and enter a huge hole." They then passed over strange
earth landscapes, but never landed.
Reinhold stated that his "hosts" never told him exactly where
they came from, although he became convinced that their homeland
was somewhere in the region of the pole. He could see that they
were highly advanced in technology, but seemed to be a rather
peaceful people. He said that if their mission had a purpose,
from what he gathered, it was to observe mankind and to keep us
from destroying the planet.
Schmidt's flying saucer trip lasted for 5 days. He remembers
seeing a land which was lit by a glowing sun rather different
from our Sun, and twice had the impression of crossing a large
curve of ocean where the horizon dipped and fell and then
righted itself. (This would be a perfect description of having
passed into and out of polar opening. So I believe Schmidt was
actually taken to the hollow earth via the North Polar Opening.)
On August 18, 1958, Reinhold was returned by his flying saucer
friends to the Bakersfield quarry with his Buick. It was then
he noticed the paint on his car had turned luminous.
Note that Reinhold knew nothing of the earth being hollow. Yet
his description of where he went fits the hollow earth theory
very well.
Rod
List Members,
By the way, Rod M. Cluff is a new list member, and a long-time hollow
Earther. He has a nice site at: www.ourhollowearth.com
He has a concept of the ray of the interior sun much similar to Cater's soft
particle, the low frequency photon aggregate.
Dharma/Dean
List Members,
I have posted some excerpts of Arctic evidence from Chapter Four of Raymond
Bernard's book The Hollow Earth. They are posted on that same page as Seven
Days North of Tibet. There is already an Arctic theme on that page, so I
just continued it with some supplementary info. It is at the bottom of the
page.
http://skyboom.com/hollowearthpuranas/index5.html
I've only included the observations. I've posted a lot of them piecemeal
over the last two months, but I figure that it can't hurt to have that stuff
posted up somewhere for reference. It is good to read this material to get
some background. It is especially reliable material because it is older
material. The reports which we received AFTER the turn of the last century
seem to have omissions. That is when the government started getting
involved. Now, there are exclusion zones up there and everything.
Dean
Norlan,
There is one thing that I have difficulties to understand when it comes to plasma in space. Doesn't plasma require extreme heat to exist?
Frode
Frode,
It could be, who knows. There are myriad combinations of cosmic clouds out
there. However, the Van Allen Belt appears to be less of a conglomerate of
cosmic gasses and plasmic matter than it appears to be concentrated plasmic
matter. This similarity between the mirror bottle plasmic cloud and the Van
Allen Belt is what fascinates me. Science has a hard time catagorizing
plasmic entities. They are so unique that we still don't know much about
them.
Norlan
List Members,
In The Awesome Life Force, Mr. Cater gives a couple of reasons for accepting
that Mars has a greater size than we have been told. He makes two points,
the following point in relation to the cosmic rays, which are low frequency
photons/light. He explains that visible light, traveling through space, is
refracted by this low frequncy, invisible light:
" Another factor that leads astronomers astray is the fact that higher
frequency light is refracted more by a lens than the lower frequencies. As a
result, an image is magnified to a greater extent if the object is
illuminated with higher frequency light. Light that is attenuated, in the
manner described earlier, such as losing velocity, being scattered, and
being brought to lower frequencies by the redistribution law, will have a
tendency to be refracted less, the farther it travels. Each of these three
factors is by itself sufficient to produce this effect. Together they
compound it. Consequently, the image of a distant planet will not be
magnified by a telescope, to the extent that the power would indicate. As a
consequence, the planet will seem to be more distant than it actually is."
Then Mr. Cater quotes NASA that the base of Olympus Mons is 375 miles, and
says that if the total diameter of the planet were 4, 200 miles like Never A
Straight Answer ( NASA ) says, then the base of Olympus Mons would have to
be around 9% of the planet's diameter:
" Recent confirmation that the 11,300 mile calculated diameter for Mars (
Calculated by Cater ) is realistic has been unwittingly supplied by NASA.
Measurements of surface detail show that the diameter of the giant volcano
Olympus Mons at its base is 375 miles. Pictures of the entire planet which
show this volcano, belie the claimed diameter of 4,200 miles. According to
such views, the diameter of Olympus Mons is only about three to four percent
that of the planet, instead of the nine percent it should be if astronomical
calculations were valid."
What I want to know is:
Has anyone ever brought this up before?
And
Does anybody have the means to confirm what percentage of the total diameter
of Mars is occupied by the base of Olympus Mons?
Dean
I've been reading this NASA article over again, which I originally found on
Rod's site, and I have a question. The article refers to the positively
charged particles as emanating from the polar areas and forming the
magnetosphere.
But does NASA still stand by its assumption that the electrons originate
from the Sun?
http://science.nasa.gov/newhome/headlines/ast09dec97_3.htm
In the article, positively charged ions from the Earth are being referred
to, in relation to the magnetic field of the Earth, then the article
mentions " the particles that slammed into the ionosphere to paint the
aurora borealis also energized enough atoms to head spaceward. " Is the
article still referring to the same positive ions from the Earth, or has the
reference changed and is it now referring to the supposed electrons from the
sun? Is the article admitting that the auroral display does not originate
from the sun at all, or just mentioning that the positively charged
particles only are from the Earth?
" The perception started to change in the mid-1980s following the Aug. 3,
1981, launch of two Dynamics Explorer satellites designed to study the
magnetosphere near the Earth. DE-1 carried Chappell's Retarding Ion Mass
Spectrometer (RIMS), designed to measure the population of the plasmasphere,
a torus or donut of low-energy in the inner magnetosphere.
To Chappell's surprise, the real find was around the north pole where RIMS
measured gases flowing upward from the ionosphere into space as DE-1 arced
to about 4.6 Earth radii above the pole (the orbit was 464 x 23,370 km [288
x 14,490 mi]).
'The more we measured it,' he said, 'the more we realized that this was a
big source of material. RIMS measured ions of hydrogen, helium, oxygen, and
nitrogen rising at different speeds and on different trajectories.
Apparently, the particles that slammed into the ionosphere to paint the
aurora borealis also energized enough atoms to head spaceward. (The same is
true of the south pole where DE-1 made similar observations.) The
acceleration mechanism is not fully understood, though. Giles said that very
low frequency (VLF) radio waves, emitted in the magnetosphere, may
contribute energy."
Posted by Dean
Cater's comments on the Martian atmosphere are very interesting; from pages
193 - 194 of The Awesome Life Force:
" According to NASA, recent calculations have shown that the Martian
atmosphere has only about one percent the density of the earth's. This
contradicts other findings concerning cloud formations. Dense and very
extensive clouds are often detected on Mars. Pictures of the volcano Olympus
Mons have shown clouds hovering close to the summit of the mountain, which
is supposed to rise 15 miles above the surrounding countryside. It is
claimed that clouds are often found at an elevation of 90,000 feet! This is
much higher than any water vapor and ice clouds found on the earth. The fact
that they move shows that the air is sufficiently dense at such altitudes to
produce winds capable of moving clouds. This indicates that Mars actually
has an atmosphere denser than that of earth.
Another factor that confutes the claim of a thin atmosphere is the
tremendous dust storms that often occur. Some of them dwarf any that have
ever experienced here on earth. The experts try to surmount this difficulty
by assuming wind velocities of over 300 miles per hour. How sustained wind
velocities of this magnitude could be achieved has never been made clear. In
addition, extensive areas of fine dust necessary to produce such a condition
could not exist in an atmosphere as thin as that which has been attributed
to Mars."
Posted by Dean
List Members,
About planetary distances:
" The variations in concentration of low frequency particles ( cosmic rays )
in outer space is sufficient to render any measurement of parallax an
impossibility."
The Awesome Life force by Joseph H. Cater, page 198
Posted by Dean