A map of the inner earth from c.a. 1730
High resolution available at
http://goran.baarnhielm.net/Kartor/Accurata_Utopiae_Tabula_150.jpg
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A map of the inner earth from c.a. 1730
High resolution available at
http://goran.baarnhielm.net/Kartor/Accurata_Utopiae_Tabula_150.jpg
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Wow - awesome! Looks like it's been well populated. I wonder how someone would go about immigrating there.
--- On Fri, 11/2/12, Gary Fleck <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Gary Fleck <[email protected]>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] A map of the inner earth from
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, November 2, 2012, 1:16 PM
A map of the inner earth from c.a. 1730
High resolution available at
http://goran.baarnhielm.net/Kartor/Accurata_Utopiae_Tabula_150.jpg
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I don't know much about this map, it was posted on another hollow Earth group. The language looks to be Swedish. I have asked the individual who posted it for additional information. I will post anything I learn about it. As far as immigrating there, good luck on that, but, I doubt if it is possible without a direct invitation from someone living there. (who is also willing to provide you with some sort of advanced transportation) TPTB (the powers that be) are all about suppressing all hollow Earth knowledge/information, and the polar openings are under constant observation/surveillance by various military's and three letter agencies
--- In [email protected], "Sheridan L. Crawford" <seadog5960@...> wrote:
Wow - awesome! Looks like it's been well populated. I wonder how someone would go about immigrating there.
--- On Fri, 11/2/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@...> wrote:
From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@...>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] A map of the inner earth from
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, November 2, 2012, 1:16 PMÂ
A map of the inner earth from c.a. 1730
High resolution available athttp://goran.baarnhielm.net/Kartor/Accurata_Utopiae_Tabula_150.jpg
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Gary, that is an amazing link! Thank you!
The site is Swedish. Google's translator site
http://translate.google.com/ will help us read some of the main site:
Göran Bäärnhielms webbplats : Kartor
There is also Microsoft's translation wizard which can be downloaded so
you can read the actual site in another language:
Kathy
A map of the inner earth from c.a. 1730
High resolution available athttp://goran.baarnhielm.net/Kartor/Accurata_Utopiae_Tabula_150.jpg
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Gary, I also found this site from HistoryNYC.com about the map:
http://www.historynyc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=2231720225
It says it is "cartographic humor":
Kathy
"This is a large and extraordinarily interesting map of Utopia by German
cartographer Johann Baptist Homann. First state of the first of the
"Schlarraffenland" (or the English equivalent "Cockaigne") maps, which
parody paradise, depicted as a "land of milk and honey" where chickens
fly around already cooked and each home is surrounded by a hedge of
sausage. Schlarraffenland maps were popularized by German cartographers
Homann and Seutter; this one is attributed to Homann. The map has all
the "normal" characteristics of a real map depicting a real country:
latitude/longitude lines, a scale, topography (forests, rivers, lakes,
mountains), place names, demarcated regions. But, of course, the devil
is in the details. The longitude of this Schlarraffenland (from 360º to
550º) literally places it off the chart---its latitude situates it on
the equator, where sin is not partial to day or night. The scale
suggests that one of the country's big mouths ("Schlarrafische grosse
Mäuler") equals two small venereal or arrogant mouths ("Kleine
venerische oder Hoffärtige Mäuler"). There is much fun in decoding the
map's cartographic humor, but, of course, there is always some sobering
truth in something "funny"---in recognizing their own faults, viewers
get the message: reform your sinful ways. From Map: Accurata Utopiæ
tabula: Das ist der neu entdeckten Schalck Welt, oder des so
offtbenannten, und doch nie erkanten Schlarraffenlandes, neu erfundene
lacherliche Land tabell, worinnen alle und jede laster in besondere
Konigreich, Provintzen und Herrschafften ab getheilet, beyneben auch die
negst angrentzende La?nder der Frommen des zeitlichen Auff und
Untergangs auch ewigen verderbens Regionen, samt einer Erklerung
anmuthig und nutzlich vorgestellt werden" ([Nuremberg: Officina
Homanniana, ca. 1720]) [Accurate map of Utopia: This is the newly
invented, humorous chart of the World of Fools, frequently called the
Land of Cockaigne which has never been found, showing and explaining in
a beautiful and useful manner any and all vices by kingdom, province,
and domain, also the border countries of the faithful as well as the
regions of the beginning and end of time and eternal doom]. Copperplate
map, with added color."
A map of the inner earth from c.a. 1730
High resolution available athttp://goran.baarnhielm.net/Kartor/Accurata_Utopiae_Tabula_150.jpg
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This site too, describes the humor created in the map by German
cartographers
http://libweb5.princeton.edu/visual_materials/maps/websites/thematic-maps/theme-maps/utopia.html
Kathy
This site explains
"Depicted here is paradise's opposite: the lands of vice. Each has its
own kingdom, such as Pigritaria (Land of Indolence), Lurconia (Land of
Gluttony), Bibonia (Land of Drink), Schmarotz Insula (Island of
Spongers). Terra Sancta (in the north) is, of course, Incognita, whereas
hell, at the bottom, is more accessible. The map's outlines roughly
assume the shape of a fool's cap, with two peaks flopping down on the
sides, dangling islands as their bells. In that interpretation, Iuronia
Regnum (Land of Oath-Swearing) locates the fool's throat appropriately
below an open mouth (Venerea Meer)."
A map of the inner earth from c.a. 1730
High resolution available athttp://goran.baarnhielm.net/Kartor/Accurata_Utopiae_Tabula_150.jpg
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Thanks Kathy, it just makes one say hhmmm.. why would the map-maker/author of this map go to such lengths to perpetrate such a hoax? Just saying, was he just a rich joker with too much time on his hands? Was he selling them as joke maps? Certainly if he never intended to sell them, (and)(they didn't have computer graphics programs back then) he, in putting forth the same effort to create a real/salable map could have profited well from his time spent? Or, perhaps he had another reason/agenda for creating this detailed map, Like muddying the water for hollow Earth researchers. (he was obviously aware of the hollow Earth theory) Why else would he spend countless hours hand drawing a supposedly farcical, no profit map. Scratching my head in amazement. Gary
--- In [email protected], Kathy <getnews1@...> wrote:
Gary, I also found this site from HistoryNYC.com about the map:
http://www.historynyc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=2231720225
It says it is "cartographic humor":
Kathy"This is a large and extraordinarily interesting map of Utopia by German
cartographer Johann Baptist Homann. First state of the first of the
"Schlarraffenland" (or the English equivalent "Cockaigne") maps, which
parody paradise, depicted as a "land of milk and honey" where chickens
fly around already cooked and each home is surrounded by a hedge of
sausage. Schlarraffenland maps were popularized by German cartographers
Homann and Seutter; this one is attributed to Homann. The map has all
the "normal" characteristics of a real map depicting a real country:
latitude/longitude lines, a scale, topography (forests, rivers, lakes,
mountains), place names, demarcated regions. But, of course, the devil
is in the details. The longitude of this Schlarraffenland (from 360º to
550º) literally places it off the chart---its latitude situates it on
the equator, where sin is not partial to day or night. The scale
suggests that one of the country's big mouths ("Schlarrafische grosse
Mäuler") equals two small venereal or arrogant mouths ("Kleine
venerische oder Hoffärtige Mäuler"). There is much fun in decoding the
map's cartographic humor, but, of course, there is always some sobering
truth in something "funny"---in recognizing their own faults, viewers
get the message: reform your sinful ways. From Map: Accurata Utopiæ
tabula: Das ist der neu entdeckten Schalck Welt, oder des so
offtbenannten, und doch nie erkanten Schlarraffenlandes, neu erfundene
lacherliche Land tabell, worinnen alle und jede laster in besondere
Konigreich, Provintzen und Herrschafften ab getheilet, beyneben auch die
negst angrentzende La?nder der Frommen des zeitlichen Auff und
Untergangs auch ewigen verderbens Regionen, samt einer Erklerung
anmuthig und nutzlich vorgestellt werden" ([Nuremberg: Officina
Homanniana, ca. 1720]) [Accurate map of Utopia: This is the newly
invented, humorous chart of the World of Fools, frequently called the
Land of Cockaigne which has never been found, showing and explaining in
a beautiful and useful manner any and all vices by kingdom, province,
and domain, also the border countries of the faithful as well as the
regions of the beginning and end of time and eternal doom]. Copperplate
map, with added color.">
> A map of the inner earth from c.a. 1730
> High resolution available at
>
> http://goran.baarnhielm.net/Kartor/Accurata_Utopiae_Tabula_150.jpg
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Well, why do comic writers, political columnists, and satire writers
enjoy the work they do today? Poking fun at people, at ideas they think
is ridiculous, creating satire because it is meant to be funny. I
didn't live back in the 1700's when this map was created, but I can see
that it was funny. Once I found the websites which explained the names
of the places, done in humor, I completely understood and I did laugh!
*<<Pigritaria (Land of Indolence), Lurconia (Land of Gluttony), Bibonia
(Land of Drink), Schmarotz Insula (Island of Spongers). Terra Sancta (in
the north) is, of course, Incognita,>>*
According to the historians, there were many individuals who did this
sort of map thing as 'art'.
I think if he wanted to muddy the water, he would have made it totally
realistic, as then people for centuries would really wonder where the
cartographer got his information.
On the other hand, if he wanted to preserve some element of truth, but
was afraid his head would be on the chopping block if he told the truth,
he might very well have turned it to humor. May be some time before we
really know. I'm just glad I didn't live in the 1700's.
Kathy
Thanks Kathy, it just makes one say hhmmm.. why would the
map-maker/author of this map go to such lengths to perpetrate such a
hoax? Just saying, was he just a rich joker with too much time on his
hands? Was he selling them as joke maps? Certainly if he never
intended to sell them, (and)(they didn't have computer graphics
programs back then) he, in putting forth the same effort to create a
real/salable map could have profited well from his time spent? Or,
perhaps he had another reason/agenda for creating this detailed map,
Like muddying the water for hollow Earth researchers. (he was
obviously aware of the hollow Earth theory) Why else would he spend
countless hours hand drawing a supposedly farcical, no profit map.
Scratching my head in amazement. Gary--- In [email protected]
<mailto:allplanets-hollow%40yahoogroups.com>, Kathy <getnews1@...> wrote:
>
> Gary, I also found this site from HistoryNYC.com about the map:
> http://www.historynyc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=2231720225
> It says it is "cartographic humor":
> Kathy
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Maybe with this "global warming" trend, it will be possible to sail a smallish boat into the North Polar opening - no, probably not. The alphabet soups would make sure one never made it I'm certain. The whole "Russian Icebreaker" trip planned this spring with Brooks Agnew will probably be a dissapointment too...
--- On Sat, 11/3/12, Gary <[email protected]> wrote:
From: Gary <[email protected]>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] Re: A map of the inner earth from
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, November 3, 2012, 3:35 AM
I don't know much about this map, it was posted on another hollow Earth group. The language looks to be Swedish. I have asked the individual who posted it for additional information. I will post anything I learn about it. As far as immigrating there, good luck on that, but, I doubt if it is possible without a direct invitation from someone living there. (who is also willing to provide you with some sort of advanced transportation) TPTB (the powers that be) are all about suppressing all hollow Earth knowledge/information, and the polar openings are under constant observation/surveillance by various military's and three letter agencies
--- In [email protected], "Sheridan L. Crawford" <seadog5960@...> wrote:
Wow - awesome! Looks like it's been well populated. I wonder how someone would go about immigrating there.
--- On Fri, 11/2/12, Gary Fleck <g.fleck@...> wrote:
From: Gary Fleck <g.fleck@...>
Subject: [allplanets-hollow] A map of the inner earth from
To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Date: Friday, November 2, 2012, 1:16 PMÂ
A map of the inner earth from c.a. 1730
High resolution available athttp://goran.baarnhielm.net/Kartor/Accurata_Utopiae_Tabula_150.jpg
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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Ok, and now for more of "the rest of the story" from the original poster.. after my comment.. "I knew there was more to this story than supposed ridiculous satire/hoax". Stay tuned.. Gary
*******
Shamb Hala commented on his photo in Hollow Earth.
First of all, the origin of this map is...
Shamb Hala 3:15pm Nov 3
First of all, the origin of this map is somewhat questionable. It is crafted by Georg Matthäus Seutter. It had supposedly reached Seutter's hands in the early 1730s where he held onto it before he published it in his atlases. It is scripted in old German, not Latin, which was still widely recognized as the language of maps. The original map which this engraving was taken from was supposedly dropped off at his map shop, outside the door, left without any information. There is evidence that there was a book printed in the early 1730s of over 400 pages talking about the geographies of this land, the rivers and the streams. Starting in the far left hand corner you will notice three measurement graduations. This is very important, as why would someone include three measurements on a map that was supposedly mythological? Nowhere on the map is it indicated that it is fantasy, it is however spoken of as utopia. The map gives the appearance of being inverted, due to the lines and the sharpness of the angle. Taking a look at some of the script on the map, on the right side of the Tropic of Capricorn (the Southern Tropic line) you can read: "In these waters the fishing for mackerel and herring is good." On the left side, you can find the description of an island located on the line. It says: "This is the island where the machine that controls the weather is located." Now, somebody printed this and engraved it in 1730. How ridiculous that would have been? Controlling the weather is something that is new to us today. The script written under the right side of the equator states: "The Sun(or the light) is the same both day and night." The script in box in the bottom right hand corner describes an utopian map of the newly discovered Schlaraffenland. This land was often spoken of but never actually located, composed of many kingdoms which have the many different vices of life within them and that this map was delivered by anonymous authors. You can see a clue on how to get to the Schlaraffenland surrounding the script. The image looks like a very high mountain with rivers flowing northwards right into the mountain. This is reminiscent of what is depicted on the maps of Gerard Mercator and Mathias Quad from 1600. I will follow up with another post.
Comment History
Gary Fleck
Gary Fleck 6:15am Nov 3
Can you fill us in on the details about this map? What language is it written in? Looks like Swedish. What is the source of this map? Any additional info is appreciated. Gary
Original Post
Shamb Hala
Shamb Hala 11:47am Nov 2
A map of the inner earth from c.a. 1730
High resolution available at http://goran.baarnhielm.net/Kartor/Accurata_Utopiae_Tabula_150.jpg
New Jerusalem is up there in the north ![]()
--- In [email protected], Kathy <getnews1@...> wrote:
Well, why do comic writers, political columnists, and satire writers
enjoy the work they do today? Poking fun at people, at ideas they think
is ridiculous, creating satire because it is meant to be funny. I
didn't live back in the 1700's when this map was created, but I can see
that it was funny. Once I found the websites which explained the names
of the places, done in humor, I completely understood and I did laugh!
*<<Pigritaria (Land of Indolence), Lurconia (Land of Gluttony), Bibonia
(Land of Drink), Schmarotz Insula (Island of Spongers). Terra Sancta (in
the north) is, of course, Incognita,>>*According to the historians, there were many individuals who did this
sort of map thing as 'art'.
I think if he wanted to muddy the water, he would have made it totally
realistic, as then people for centuries would really wonder where the
cartographer got his information.
On the other hand, if he wanted to preserve some element of truth, but
was afraid his head would be on the chopping block if he told the truth,
he might very well have turned it to humor. May be some time before we
really know. I'm just glad I didn't live in the 1700's.
Kathy
>
> Thanks Kathy, it just makes one say hhmmm.. why would the
> map-maker/author of this map go to such lengths to perpetrate such a
> hoax? Just saying, was he just a rich joker with too much time on his
> hands? Was he selling them as joke maps? Certainly if he never
> intended to sell them, (and)(they didn't have computer graphics
> programs back then) he, in putting forth the same effort to create a
> real/salable map could have profited well from his time spent? Or,
> perhaps he had another reason/agenda for creating this detailed map,
> Like muddying the water for hollow Earth researchers. (he was
> obviously aware of the hollow Earth theory) Why else would he spend
> countless hours hand drawing a supposedly farcical, no profit map.
> Scratching my head in amazement. Gary
>
>
> --- In [email protected]
> <mailto:allplanets-hollow%40yahoogroups.com>, Kathy <getnews1@> wrote:
> >
> > Gary, I also found this site from HistoryNYC.com about the map:
> > http://www.historynyc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=2231720225
> > It says it is "cartographic humor":
> > Kathy
>[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
Seems the "author" of the map is claimed to have been different individuals.
The two historical reference I gave say it was by German cartographer
Johann Baptist Homann.
The George Matthaus Seutter you refer to, is said to have been an
apprenticeship at J. B. Homann in Nuremberg.
Gary, it would be nice if you could continue to find a source link to
what was represented to you below. I couldn't find it.
Thanks!
Kathy
Ok, and now for more of "the rest of the story" from the original
poster.. after my comment.. "I knew there was more to this story than
supposed ridiculous satire/hoax". Stay tuned.. Gary*******
Shamb Hala commented on his photo in Hollow Earth.
First of all, the origin of this map is...
Shamb Hala 3:15pm Nov 3
First of all, the origin of this map is somewhat questionable. It is
crafted by Georg Matthäus Seutter. It had supposedly reached Seutter's
hands in the early 1730s where he held onto it before he published it
in his atlases. It is scripted in old German, not Latin, which was
still widely recognized as the language of maps. The original map
which this engraving was taken from was supposedly dropped off at his
map shop, outside the door, left without any information. There is
evidence that there was a book printed in the early 1730s of over 400
pages talking about the geographies of this land, the rivers and the
streams. Starting in the far left hand corner you will notice three
measurement graduations. This is very important, as why would someone
include three measurements on a map that was supposedly mythological?
Nowhere on the map is it indicated that it is fantasy, it is however
spoken of as utopia. The map gives the appearance of being inverted,
due to the lines and the sharpness of the angle. Taking a look at some
of the script on the map, on the right side of the Tropic of Capricorn
(the Southern Tropic line) you can read: "In these waters the fishing
for mackerel and herring is good." On the left side, you can find the
description of an island located on the line. It says: "This is the
island where the machine that controls the weather is located." Now,
somebody printed this and engraved it in 1730. How ridiculous that
would have been? Controlling the weather is something that is new to
us today. The script written under the right side of the equator
states: "The Sun(or the light) is the same both day and night." The
script in box in the bottom right hand corner describes an utopian map
of the newly discovered Schlaraffenland. This land was often spoken of
but never actually located, composed of many kingdoms which have the
many different vices of life within them and that this map was
delivered by anonymous authors. You can see a clue on how to get to
the Schlaraffenland surrounding the script. The image looks like a
very high mountain with rivers flowing northwards right into the
mountain. This is reminiscent of what is depicted on the maps of
Gerard Mercator and Mathias Quad from 1600. I will follow up with
another post.
Comment History
Gary Fleck
Gary Fleck 6:15am Nov 3
Can you fill us in on the details about this map? What language is it
written in? Looks like Swedish. What is the source of this map? Any
additional info is appreciated. Gary
Original Post
Shamb Hala
Shamb Hala 11:47am Nov 2
A map of the inner earth from c.a. 1730
High resolution available at
http://goran.baarnhielm.net/Kartor/Accurata_Utopiae_Tabula_150.jpg
New Jerusalem is up there in the north--- In [email protected]
<mailto:allplanets-hollow%40yahoogroups.com>, Kathy <getnews1@...> wrote:
>
> Well, why do comic writers, political columnists, and satire writers
> enjoy the work they do today? Poking fun at people, at ideas they think
> is ridiculous, creating satire because it is meant to be funny. I
> didn't live back in the 1700's when this map was created, but I can see
> that it was funny. Once I found the websites which explained the names
> of the places, done in humor, I completely understood and I did laugh!
> *<<Pigritaria (Land of Indolence), Lurconia (Land of Gluttony), Bibonia
> (Land of Drink), Schmarotz Insula (Island of Spongers). Terra Sancta
(in
> the north) is, of course, Incognita,>>*
>
> According to the historians, there were many individuals who did this
> sort of map thing as 'art'.
> I think if he wanted to muddy the water, he would have made it totally
> realistic, as then people for centuries would really wonder where the
> cartographer got his information.
> On the other hand, if he wanted to preserve some element of truth, but
> was afraid his head would be on the chopping block if he told the
truth,
> he might very well have turned it to humor. May be some time before we
> really know. I'm just glad I didn't live in the 1700's.
> Kathy
> >
> > Thanks Kathy, it just makes one say hhmmm.. why would the
> > map-maker/author of this map go to such lengths to perpetrate such a
> > hoax? Just saying, was he just a rich joker with too much time on his
> > hands? Was he selling them as joke maps? Certainly if he never
> > intended to sell them, (and)(they didn't have computer graphics
> > programs back then) he, in putting forth the same effort to create a
> > real/salable map could have profited well from his time spent? Or,
> > perhaps he had another reason/agenda for creating this detailed map,
> > Like muddying the water for hollow Earth researchers. (he was
> > obviously aware of the hollow Earth theory) Why else would he spend
> > countless hours hand drawing a supposedly farcical, no profit map.
> > Scratching my head in amazement. Gary
> >
> >
> > --- In [email protected]
<mailto:allplanets-hollow%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:allplanets-hollow%40yahoogroups.com>, Kathy <getnews1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Gary, I also found this site from HistoryNYC.com about the map:
> > > http://www.historynyc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=2231720225
> > > It says it is "cartographic humor":
> > > Kathy
> >
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I'm already on it, waiting for the next reply from the original poster, and, I am in process of seeking out sources and links. I will post any updates I find. I am currently conversing with the original poster. Stay tuned.. Gary
--- In [email protected], Kathy <getnews1@...> wrote:
Seems the "author" of the map is claimed to have been different individuals.
The two historical reference I gave say it was by German cartographer
Johann Baptist Homann.
The George Matthaus Seutter you refer to, is said to have been an
apprenticeship at J. B. Homann in Nuremberg.
Gary, it would be nice if you could continue to find a source link to
what was represented to you below. I couldn't find it.
Thanks!
Kathy
>
> Ok, and now for more of "the rest of the story" from the original
> poster.. after my comment.. "I knew there was more to this story than
> supposed ridiculous satire/hoax". Stay tuned.. Gary
>
> *******
> Shamb Hala commented on his photo in Hollow Earth.
> First of all, the origin of this map is...
> Shamb Hala 3:15pm Nov 3
> First of all, the origin of this map is somewhat questionable. It is
> crafted by Georg Matthäus Seutter. It had supposedly reached Seutter's
> hands in the early 1730s where he held onto it before he published it
> in his atlases. It is scripted in old German, not Latin, which was
> still widely recognized as the language of maps. The original map
> which this engraving was taken from was supposedly dropped off at his
> map shop, outside the door, left without any information. There is
> evidence that there was a book printed in the early 1730s of over 400
> pages talking about the geographies of this land, the rivers and the
> streams. Starting in the far left hand corner you will notice three
> measurement graduations. This is very important, as why would someone
> include three measurements on a map that was supposedly mythological?
> Nowhere on the map is it indicated that it is fantasy, it is however
> spoken of as utopia. The map gives the appearance of being inverted,
> due to the lines and the sharpness of the angle. Taking a look at some
> of the script on the map, on the right side of the Tropic of Capricorn
> (the Southern Tropic line) you can read: "In these waters the fishing
> for mackerel and herring is good." On the left side, you can find the
> description of an island located on the line. It says: "This is the
> island where the machine that controls the weather is located." Now,
> somebody printed this and engraved it in 1730. How ridiculous that
> would have been? Controlling the weather is something that is new to
> us today. The script written under the right side of the equator
> states: "The Sun(or the light) is the same both day and night." The
> script in box in the bottom right hand corner describes an utopian map
> of the newly discovered Schlaraffenland. This land was often spoken of
> but never actually located, composed of many kingdoms which have the
> many different vices of life within them and that this map was
> delivered by anonymous authors. You can see a clue on how to get to
> the Schlaraffenland surrounding the script. The image looks like a
> very high mountain with rivers flowing northwards right into the
> mountain. This is reminiscent of what is depicted on the maps of
> Gerard Mercator and Mathias Quad from 1600. I will follow up with
> another post.
> Comment History
> Gary Fleck
> Gary Fleck 6:15am Nov 3
> Can you fill us in on the details about this map? What language is it
> written in? Looks like Swedish. What is the source of this map? Any
> additional info is appreciated. Gary
> Original Post
> Shamb Hala
> Shamb Hala 11:47am Nov 2
> A map of the inner earth from c.a. 1730
> High resolution available at
> http://goran.baarnhielm.net/Kartor/Accurata_Utopiae_Tabula_150.jpg
> New Jerusalem is up there in the north
>
> --- In [email protected]
> <mailto:allplanets-hollow%40yahoogroups.com>, Kathy <getnews1@> wrote:
> >
> > Well, why do comic writers, political columnists, and satire writers
> > enjoy the work they do today? Poking fun at people, at ideas they think
> > is ridiculous, creating satire because it is meant to be funny. I
> > didn't live back in the 1700's when this map was created, but I can see
> > that it was funny. Once I found the websites which explained the names
> > of the places, done in humor, I completely understood and I did laugh!
> > *<<Pigritaria (Land of Indolence), Lurconia (Land of Gluttony), Bibonia
> > (Land of Drink), Schmarotz Insula (Island of Spongers). Terra Sancta
> (in
> > the north) is, of course, Incognita,>>*
> >
> > According to the historians, there were many individuals who did this
> > sort of map thing as 'art'.
> > I think if he wanted to muddy the water, he would have made it totally
> > realistic, as then people for centuries would really wonder where the
> > cartographer got his information.
> > On the other hand, if he wanted to preserve some element of truth, but
> > was afraid his head would be on the chopping block if he told the
> truth,
> > he might very well have turned it to humor. May be some time before we
> > really know. I'm just glad I didn't live in the 1700's.
> > Kathy
> > >
> > > Thanks Kathy, it just makes one say hhmmm.. why would the
> > > map-maker/author of this map go to such lengths to perpetrate such a
> > > hoax? Just saying, was he just a rich joker with too much time on his
> > > hands? Was he selling them as joke maps? Certainly if he never
> > > intended to sell them, (and)(they didn't have computer graphics
> > > programs back then) he, in putting forth the same effort to create a
> > > real/salable map could have profited well from his time spent? Or,
> > > perhaps he had another reason/agenda for creating this detailed map,
> > > Like muddying the water for hollow Earth researchers. (he was
> > > obviously aware of the hollow Earth theory) Why else would he spend
> > > countless hours hand drawing a supposedly farcical, no profit map.
> > > Scratching my head in amazement. Gary
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected]
> <mailto:allplanets-hollow%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:allplanets-hollow%40yahoogroups.com>, Kathy <getnews1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Gary, I also found this site from HistoryNYC.com about the map:
> > > > http://www.historynyc.com/proddetail.asp?prod=2231720225
> > > > It says it is "cartographic humor":
> > > > Kathy
> > >
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