A letter from Mr. Cater

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Frode and All,

I just got a letter from Mr. Cater. I had asked him why light from the inner
world wasn't visible beaming out of the polar orifices.

First of all he responded about the nature of light in the inner world. He
said: " The light from the so called central sun is dull and does not emit
any concentrated rays. the light experienced in the hollow Earth does not
come from this so-called sun."

Frode, this makes so much sense. The soft particles which break up on their
way through the earth's shell liberate photons of light and illuminate
cavern worlds. They break up due to friction with other frequencies of soft
particles, not so much due to any friction with matter of the Earth's shell.
In the hollow cavity, they would continue to break up and emit light. Thus
Olaf described the rich colors although he described the sun itself as dull.
I want so much to go there!

About light beaming out, or not beaming out, through the orifices, this is
now partly explained. The light is generated in an omnipresent manner, it is
not beamed from a localized source.

About the lack of " beaming," he said: " No light shines out of the North
opening for obvious reasons. Most of the opening contains no atmosphere.
Thus nearly all the soft electrons ejected out of the opening do not
disintegrate and thus no light is the result [ no photons are liberated ].

Frode-

I think that we have been looking in the wrong direction. We have
anticipated a role for the central sun which it does not have, basing our
anticipation on the sun of our experience. A so-called, dull "sun " is there
because soft particles congregate in the center of the hollow cavity. They
no doubt experience some friction and break up, releasing some light. But
all throughout the cavity the soft particles, which are newly introduced
though the shell, experience friction with soft particles bouncing around at
different frequency, and disintegrate, releasing light all over the place.

I just wish that I could visit with the guy, but I don't live in Seattle.

Dharma/Dean

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Dean:

Does Mr. Cater live in Seattle?
I think that what Mr. Cater says to you about the light in the HE, that the same concept is just being introduced in Ch. 25 of Etidorhpa. I wondered about the light particles as I read this chapter a few days ago, and was under the impression that in a HE a person would be surrounded by light from all angles and positions, not just from above, therefore, there would be no direct hovering of light above a HE opening. If that is correct, then I would speculate that there is indeed other entrances which remain hidden from our view, since we have been looking for an entrance by focussing on what lies above it in our skies.

Etidorhpa talks a bit about the the light in CH. 25, beginning on the middle of page 147 of the 1976 paperback: I Am the Man asks his guide about the lake:

"But I see no evidence of heat or even motion of any kind."
"Not here", he replied; "in this place there is none. The energy is developed thousands of miles away, but since the phenomena of volcanic action are to be partially explained to you at a future day, I will leave that matter for the present. We shall cross the lake."
I observed as we walked along its edge that the shore of the lake was precipitous in places, again formed a gradual descending beach, and the dead silence of the space about us, in connection with the death-like stillness of that rigid mass of water and its surroundings, became increasingly impressive and awe-inspiring. Never before had I seen such a perfectly quiet glass-like surface. Not a vibration or undulation appeared in any direction. The solidity of steel was exemplified in its steady, apparently inflexible contour, and yet the pure element was so transparent that the bottom of the pool was as clearly defined as the top of the cavern above me. The lights and shades of the familiar lakes of Western New York were wanting here, and it suddenly came to mind that there were surface reflections, but no shadows, and musing on the extraordinary fact, I sat motionless on a jutting cliff absorbed in meditation, abstractly gazing down into that transparent depth. Without sun or moon, without apparent source of light, and yet perfectly illuminated, the loft caverns seemed cut by that aqueous plane into two sections, one above and one below a transparent, rigid surface line. The dividing line, or horizontal plane, appeared as much a surface of air as a surface of water, and the material above that plane seemed no more nor less a gas, or liquid, than beneath it. If two limpid, transparent liquids, immiscible, but of different gravities, be poured into the same vessel, the line of demarkation will be a brilliant mirror, such as I now beheld parting and yet uniting the surface of air and water.
Lost in contemplation, I unconsciously asked the mental question:
"Where are the shadows?"
My guide replied:
"You have been accustomed to lakes on the surface of the earth; water that is illuminated from above; now you see by a light that is developed within and below, as well as from above. There is no outside point of illumination, for the light of this cavern, as you know it, is neither transmitted through an overlying atmosphere nor radiated from a luminous center. It is an inherent quality, and as objects above us and within the lake are illuminated from all sides, there can be no shadows."
Musingly, I said:
"That which has occurred before in this journey to the unknown country of which I have been advised, seemed mysterious; but each succeeding step discovers to me another novelty tat is more mysterious, with unlooked-for phenomenon that are more obscure."
"This phenomenon is no more of a mystery that is the fact that light radiates from the sun. Man can not explain that; and I shall not now attempt to explain this. Both conditions are attributes of force, but with this distinction--the surface of the earth, is here refined and softened, and the characteristic glare and harshness of the light that is known to those who live on the earth's surface is absent here. The solar ray, after penetrating the earth's crust, is tempered and refined by agencies which man will yet investigate understandingly, but which he can now not comprehend.

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Dean:

Does Mr. Cater live in Seattle?

  • Leslee,

  • Yes ma'am.

I think that what Mr. Cater says to you about the light in the HE, that the same concept is just being introduced in Ch. 25 of Etidorhpa. I wondered about the light particles as I read this chapter a few days ago, and was under the impression that in a HE a person would be surrounded by light from all angles and positions, not just from above, therefore, there would be no direct hovering of light above a HE opening.

  • No direct beaming shooting out from the hole, yes. But the rationale that Mr. Cater is giving is that the hole is so tremendously wide at the neck that there is no atmosphere in the middle, only along the sides. If there is no atmosphere, then the little bit of diffuse light which does flow outwards doesn't have anything to reflect off of.

  • More than that, though, you have to remember that the light which is seen shooting out of the opening, i.e., the auroras, is generated as it flows out along the sides where there is atmosphere, because the accelerated soft particles break up into their constituent photons as they experience friction through the atmosphere. Since there is no atmosphere in the center of the doughnut hole, there is no friction to produce light.

  • H.D. Northrup did state that there was a ring of light off towards the Pole which was constant during the Arctic night. This refers to a constant flow of soft particles which break up into light, and some diffuse light from within already broken up, which hugs the sides of the doughnut-light opening as it flows out.

If that is correct, then I would speculate that there is indeed other entrances which remain hidden from our view, since we have been looking for an entrance by focussing on what lies above it in our skies.

  • Yeah, but in order to have an opening so wide that the atmosphere stretches across it such that there is the " vacuum "of space in the middle, well, it has to be hundreds of miles wide at the neck. Cater feels that the neck of the opening is 600 miles wide at the neck. If there were other openings, that big, they would be visible.

  • That doesn't mean that there can't be tunnels and connecting cavern worlds which go there, though. I really wonder about Tibet. I've heard that Tibet was at the pole at one time. have you ever noticed that several mountain chains lead right up to the Tibetan plateau from all sides around? It makes you wonder.

Etidorhpa talks a bit about the the light in CH. 25, beginning on the middle of page 147 of the 1976 paperback: I Am the Man asks his guide about the lake:

  • Leslee,

  • Yes, this portion of Etidorhpa is very appropriate-

"Where are the shadows?"
My guide replied:
"You have been accustomed to lakes on the surface of the earth; water that is illuminated from above; now you see by a light that is developed within and below, as well as from above. There is no outside point of illumination, for the light of this cavern, as you know it, is neither transmitted through an overlying atmosphere nor radiated from a luminous center. It is an inherent quality, and as objects above us and within the lake are illuminated from all sides, there can be no shadows."

  • Light which is generated by a breakup of soft particles all around does not cast shadows. My problem is that I was artificailly distinguishing between the type of light generated in the cavern worlds of Etidorhpa and the type of light generated in the hollow portion. I was thinking that because there is a sun in the hollow portion, that it would be the chief generator of light, i.e., a single source. But the soft particles break up in the hollow portion just like they do in the caverns. They break up not in contact with matter of the Earth's shell, but due to friction with other soft particles, which are abundant in the hollow cavity.

  • Leslee, you have caught on completely- more power to ya!

  • List members- Chapter 25 can be seen on the Etidorhpa 2 page along the top tier: HugeDomains.com I have divided Etidorhpa into three pages for faster download.

DD

"But I see no evidence of heat or even motion of any kind."
"Not here", he replied; "in this place there is none. The energy is developed thousands of miles away, but since the phenomena of volcanic action are to be partially explained to you at a future day, I will leave that matter for the present. We shall cross the lake."
I observed as we walked along its edge that the shore of the lake was precipitous in places, again formed a gradual descending beach, and the dead silence of the space about us, in connection with the death-like stillness of that rigid mass of water and its surroundings, became increasingly impressive and awe-inspiring. Never before had I seen such a perfectly quiet glass-like surface. Not a vibration or undulation appeared in any direction. The solidity of steel was exemplified in its steady, apparently inflexible contour, and yet the pure element was so transparent that the bottom of the pool was as clearly defined as the top of the cavern above me. The lights and shades of the familiar lakes of Western New York were wanting here, and it suddenly came to mind that there were surface reflections, but no shadows, and musing on the extraordinary fact, I sat motionless on a jutting cliff absorbed in meditation, abstractly gazing down into that transparent depth. Without sun or moon, without apparent source of light, and yet perfectly illuminated, the loft caverns seemed cut by that aqueous plane into two sections, one above and one below a transparent, rigid surface line. The dividing line, or horizontal plane, appeared as much a surface of air as a surface of water, and the material above that plane seemed no more nor less a gas, or liquid, than beneath it. If two limpid, transparent liquids, immiscible, but of different gravities, be poured into the same vessel, the line of demarkation will be a brilliant mirror, such as I now beheld parting and yet uniting the surface of air and water.
Lost in contemplation, I unconsciously asked the mental question:
"Where are the shadows?"
My guide replied:
"You have been accustomed to lakes on the surface of the earth; water that is illuminated from above; now you see by a light that is developed within and below, as well as from above. There is no outside point of illumination, for the light of this cavern, as you know it, is neither transmitted through an overlying atmosphere nor radiated from a luminous center. It is an inherent quality, and as objects above us and within the lake are illuminated from all sides, there can be no shadows."
Musingly, I said:
"That which has occurred before in this journey to the unknown country of which I have been advised, seemed mysterious; but each succeeding step discovers to me another novelty tat is more mysterious, with unlooked-for phenomenon that are more obscure."
"This phenomenon is no more of a mystery that is the fact that light radiates from the sun. Man can not explain that; and I shall not now attempt to explain this. Both conditions are attributes of force, but with this distinction--the surface of the earth, is here refined and softened, and the characteristic glare and harshness of the light that is known to those who live on the earth's surface is absent here. The solar ray, after penetrating the earth's crust, is tempered and refined by agencies which man will yet investigate understandingly, but which he can now not comprehend.

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The Daniel Ross book:

http://www.wexclub.com/ExtraTerrestrial/pages/uce.htm

DD

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If NASA were capable of reaching the moon in a tin bucket, almost four decades ago, why haven't they been back on a regular basis to either explore it's still unexplained anomalies, or establish a base, not even in the aurora spaceplane? Or have they? Let's face it, no-one knows what the shuttle does up there. We see it take off, we see it land, but we see no footage of it's interim journey in space. However, the space program seems to have bypassed the moon for Mars or Europa or anywhere else.

The alleged moon landing, was either a hoax, or they were warned off by ET's and every orbitor and voyager since, has been sabotaged by them. But, another theory implies that the reason the cosmonaughts were disgruntled by their mission was because when they got to the moon, Americans were already in residence, with far superior (electromagnetic) spacecraft than the 'decoy' Apollo module they arrived in.

Ed Mitchell has gone on the record, openly declaring that Area 51 is the proverbial 'Big Brother' in operation and an inclement threat to us all.

Hazel

On Crystal Wings
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Dean,

It is interesting how Mr. Cater mentions a difference in the
quality of light in the hollow earth. In the Smoky God book it
is stated that the sun "shines" with a brightness equivalent to
2.5 full moons. This is a difficult amount of light for me to
conceptualize. One is not prone to thinking that this light is
going to be very bright if one went there, but I wish to point out
a couple of ideas.
For one thing, in an environment where the light is not as
bright as on the outside of the planet, natural responses of the
human body as well as other organisms are a matter of adaptation.
I remember some years ago a television special that remarked
that the native peoples of that high lake in South American
Titi Caca I think it was, had extremely well developed respiratory
systems. It was said that their lungs are no different from ours
genetically speaking. It just takes about three generations for
the lungs of outsiders to adapt to the thin air at that altitude and
from thence on the third generation would share the incredible
lung capacity that the natives exhibit for functioning normally in a
thin air environment. Eyes could adapt to changes in environment
over long periods of time too.
What made me think to reply was the idea that I find myself
often times going around during the bright summer months with a
squint in my eyes that has become so natural that I don't even realize
that I am doing it. Then I go into a heavily shaded area and I see
that my eyes relax from the natural reaction to a brief absence from
strong light. They relax. Just imagine a world beneath us that has its
own style of wonderfully adequate illumination and yet at the same
time there is a difference in the light such as visitors like ourselves
would not need sunglasses to cut out the harmful glare of the external
sun. I would be very surprised to find that peoples living on the inner
shell would have much need at all for dark sunglasses.
I don't know how many on the list remember seeing this but they
used to run an add on television about an Eagle sight eye protection
system. It was so named due to the ideas its developers got from their
study of the Bald Eagle and its unique system for filtering light. These
glasses actually were a bit like sunglasses but they had the trait copied

from the eagle that lubricated and protected the eagles vision, a part
of that animals makeup essential for its survival. People that tried out

this eye ware system were really surprised at how restful it was for
their
eyes and with the way the glare was cut down the benefit of actually
seeing greater detail through a system that filtered the light.
Our eyes all have a natural response to squint and for the pupil
to contract when exposed to overly bright light. Imagine for a second
taking a trip to the hollow earth, (as we believe it to exist). We would

see sights only a bare few have ever seen from the outer world and
not only would it be filled with wonder and awe, it would also be less
taxing on the eyes too. This would make for some very wide eyed
and excited exploration. It would be like Leitenant Greely had stated.
Their party was so anxious to see what lay just beyond the horizon that
it was almost a painful sensation.
I would point out one difference. They were on the outer curve
of
the opening if we can trust their reports about the foreshortening of the
horizon. In the interior though, one would ever more "see" beyond the
horizon since the horizon would swing upwards in all directions. Just
how much further one would see with this type of terrain is difficult to
speculate on but I am fairly confident that we would see much farther
portions of the surface of the ground than we do on the exterior horizon.

A lot would depend on atmospheric conditions, cloud cover, etc.
I would anticipate that features at ever greater distances would be on a
direct line of sight and if anything would be the case in a cloud free
condition, we would perceive more details as long as the scale of the
region we look at is large enough not to shrink from sheer distance.
Great reason to bring a telescope!

Scott

On Sun, 27 May 2001 22:42:32 -0300 "Dean De Lucia" [email protected]

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Scott,

Yes, interesting, indeed. There are so many possibilities, the devil is in
the details. I wonder if particles from the inner sun don't interact with
loose soft particles in the cavity to bring about light by the
disintegration of the soft particles. But Olaf would chalk it all up to the
inner sun while Cater might differentiate and refer to the inner sun as
being dull.

Your points about line-of-sight in a world of no horizons are intriguing.

Dharma/Dean