--- In eldritchlist@y..., cmobrien@t... wrote:
> It is interesting that no one ever reported alien abductions
prior to the first sightings of flying saucers and the arrival of the
space age.Chris, this is not true by a long shot. Reports of abductions, from
the dwarfish "gray neighbors" of some Celtic tales, to the
predations, rape, kidnappings, etc. of nagas, rakshasas (both of
the latter had a type of flying craft described in a technological
sense, called "vimana," and both were essentially "reptilian" in
the Vedic/Puranic descriptions), have always been around. They
exist in all cultures, and always have, but have always been
relegated to the realm of "folklore." This is identical to the
"modern manifestation" of the same phenomenon, which we
*assume,* based on evidence which is highly suspect in terms
of source and intent, to be either totally fallacious or else
"extraterrestrial." This latter assumption is by no means a
carefully considered one, nor is it logical. The former
assumption is ludicrous, as many people have had their lives
and livelihoods destroyed by daring to come forward and tell the
world about their experiences. A heck of a price to pay for the
thrill of "telling a whopper" or "spinning a yarn."We are dealing with the modern variant of an ancient folkoric
form which may have its origin here on our own planet, a form
which has changed very little over the centuries, except perhaps
in terms of some details of presentation or "costume." What
Jung saw as "archetypes" may have a more substantial, or at
least intrusive, reality than even he realized.> It is said that perhaps these have always occurred but took on
>a new mental association at this time, but I suspect the
>influence of science fiction in the mass media.One might very well suspect a phenomenon or intelligence
which alters its presentation to conform to the "popular culture"
of the time. Charlemagne's kingdom was so plagued by "flying
ships," which actually looked like ocean-going vessels but were
seen in the sky, that he gathered his armies and marched out
onto the plain to make challenge and declaration of war against
"the kings of the air." They never showed up. An Irish encounter
a few centuries later led to priest and parishioners chopping a
"normal" seeming rope loose, when an "anchor" from such a
vessel became ensnared on the church itself. During the age
immediately preceding ballooning, the fiction of Verne, etc., a
number of "airships" were seen around the world, more or less
of dirigible form, yet purely impossible in terms of functioning,
based upon description of witness accounts. We're talking
about dozens, perhaps hundreds of befuddled witnesses who
opened themselves to ridicule for centuries to come, by having
the courage to tell their stories.> I often wondered what the origin of the "greys" was, and
>noted the similarity of aliens depicted in the original Twilight
>Zone episode "Hocus Pocus and Frisby"This is my favorite episode, which I've recorded somewhere.
Thanks for the scan! BTW, note the resemblance between the
extremities of the entities in that episode and those described on
the ufo entities in the Pascagoula, MS, abduction case. Similar
descriptions exist going back for centuries, in folklore, art, etc.Modern-day or contemporary "fiction" accounts only confuse the
issue, as they tend to be based, in part (by varying degrees, case
to case) on percipient accounts, "folkloric" accounts, and so on.
The lines between fiction and whatever the realities are become
blurred, and this happens time and time again. This has always
been a major problem in fortean research or reporting, and today
it is worse than ever.--Mike
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