60 mile wide whirlpools?

Frode,

Any comments, please?

Dean

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Has anybody ever heard of this before or what became of it if anything?
--DK

1986 Chicago Tribune (12/11/86) reports that giant whirlpools, some nearly
60 miles wide, were detected moving along the Norway coast. The mammoth
whirlpools were unknown prior to 1980, and reportedly seen by orbiting
astronauts (Aviation Week, 3/16/87).

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Frode,

Any comments, please?

Dean

I have no idea Dean! I don't know anything about this. Why should it be of interest?

Just wondering,

Frode

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astronauts (Aviation Week, 3/16/87).

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I have no idea Dean! I don't know anything about this. Why should it
be of interest?

Just wondering,

Frode

Frode,

I am wondering if whirlpools funnel beneath the surface. Norway is so high
up that maybe the shell is thinner there and the ocean wate funnels through.

Dean

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>> Has anybody ever heard of this before or what became of it if

anything?

>> --DK
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>> 1986 Chicago Tribune (12/11/86) reports that giant whirlpools, some

nearly

>> 60 miles wide, were detected moving along the Norway coast. The

mammoth

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JNDas,

Would you mind if I put up your Naga Article on the site? I could stick in a
link to indiadivine.

The nagas and serpents are a component of underground lore, and you seem to
have brought it alol together very nicely.

Dharma/Dean

Frode,

I am wondering if whirlpools funnel beneath the surface. Norway is so high
up that maybe the shell is thinner there and the ocean wate funnels through.

Dean

Oh! You talk about water whirlpools! I would guess that it was caused by conventional ocean currents like the Golf-stream.

Frode

It might be that this research will confirm Cater's soft-particles physics:

http://www.transpersonal.de/mbischof/englisch/webbookeng.htm

In another place they even said that the biophotons have a negative charge. I will post that article when I find it.

Frode

Re: [allplanets-hollow] Soft
particles=Biophotons?
OK! Here it is:

http://www.alphacleanearth.com/LivingWater.html

:slight_smile:

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What are
Biophotons*? Bio-photons or somatids are tiny energy bodies that are
found in the life fluids of all living things. Antoine Bechamp of
France, Dr Enderlein of Germany and Gaston Naessens of Canada have all
reported the observation of bio-photons or somatids in blood and other
life fluids. Gaston Naessens believes that somatids are a
solidification of pure light energy. It is also theorised that
somatids may be precursors to DNA. Bio-photons have a negative electrical
charge.
Microscopic observation of bio-photons has shown that microscopic
clusters tend to stimulate or activate bio-photons. The microscopic
clusters delivery system then helps to transport this pure light
energy directly into the cells of the body.

Frode,

I got pissed and answered the guy anyway, but I would appreciate any
additional comments which youmay have. If, that is, you feel that anything
else is appropriate. You may, of course, correct or contradict me.

I am on the run, I am behind schedule.

Dean

Frode,

I got pissed and answered the guy anyway, but I would appreciate any
additional comments which youmay have. If, that is, you feel that anything
else is appropriate. You may, of course, correct or contradict me.

I am on the run, I am behind schedule.

Dean

Don't let your emotions clog your mind Dean. I will watch and see for a while before I involve myself in this. It will take a focus that I does not have at the moment.

Frode

Re: [allplanets-hollow] Soft particles=Biophotons?

List Members,

I am passing along, attached, the page on icebergs from Sadek Adam's book Hollow Earth Authentic, available through Health Research, the biggest distributor of Hollow Earth books in the world.

http://www.healthresearchbooks.com/categories/hollowearth.htm

The point is well made- how do you get fresh wate icebergs in the Arctic if there is no fresh water? Hollow Erthers think that the icebergs come from within, where the fresh-water rivers and fjords of the interior's North freeze over- huge chunks slide off and float through the polar opening to the surface. What a marvel, huh?

Sadek examines the subject matter fairly well.

Later,

Dharma/Dean

Re: [allplanets-hollow] Soft particles=Biophotons?

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From: Dharma/Dean

Here is William Reed on the subject of icebergs in the Arctic. I got this out of the book The Hollow Earth. The entire book is posted at: http://members.tripod.com/XianRex/hollow/hollowearth_index_nf.htm

" 7. Where are the icebergs formed? And how? The answer is as follows: In the interior of the earth, where it is warm, rivers flow to the surface through the polar opening. When they reach the outside, in the Arctic Circle, where it is very cold, the mouth of the rivers freezes forming icebergs. This continues for months, until, due to the warmer weather in summer and the warmth from the earth, the icebergs are thawed loose and are washed into the ocean. (The fact that icebergs are formed from fresh water, not salty ocean water, proves this theory.)

ROCKS IN ICEBERGS, COLORED SNOW, POLLEN AND DUST IN THE FAR NORTH. On this subject Reed says:

"When it can be shown that conditions are such that no Arctic icebergs (composed of fresh water) can be formed in the far north on the earth's outer surface, they must be formed in the interior. If the material that produces colored snow is a vegetable matter (which the analysis shows), and is supposed to be a blossom or the pollen of a plant, when none such grows in the vicinity of the Arctic Ocean, then it must grow in the interior of the earth; for if it grows elsewhere on earth, then the snow would be colored in other locations as well (as it is in the vicinity of the polar opening), which does not seem to be the case.

Posted by: Dean

In chapter four of The Ultimate Reality, Mr. Cater describes the source of
gravity effects:
" As mentioned previously, gravity effects are produced by a highly
penetrating portion of the electromagnetic spectrum, which falls between the
lowest fringes of the infrared and the higher frequencies of the radar band.
It is on the order of about a trillion cycles per second. Most of the energy
radiated by the sun is in the ultraviolet range and above. Only an
infinitesimal part of it is in the lower frequencies which contain the
gravity radiations. Therefore, the sun has a very low surface gravity as
evident by the tidal effects it produces."

He goes on to give a brief definition of how the radiation is produced in
contact with the surface and immediate sub surface of the planet:
" The law of redistribution of energy, not stated in any textbooks, plays a
vital role in the benefits any planet receives from a sun. Briefly, it
states that when radiant electromagnetic energy interacts with matter, the
resulting radiation as a whole is of a lower frequency than the original
radiation ]."
In Chapter 13, Mr. Cater goes on to describe the process in greater detail.
He writes that when electrons are subjected to higher temperatures their
velocity increases. When this happens, the charge on the electrons changes
because it varies with velocity- when electrons slow down, the electrostatic
charge on them becomes stronger; when electrons increase their velocity,
the charge diminishes. This change in velocity disrupts the ether flow
between the electrons and causes them to compact and adhere to each other.
This is hoow photons are formed, and photons go on to form electrons.

So the process of forming particles in the gravity-inducing range begins
when the Sun's rays first strike the Earth's surface and react with the
electrons of matter in the way just described.

Mr. Cater feels that this process produces particles in the gravity-inducing
range for about 50 miles. After that, the interactions produce a frequency
even lower than the frequency which induces gravity. Thus gravity DECREASES
the further down one penetrates the surface of a planet because the
gravity-inducing charge only exists within an initial strata. In fact, the
even lower frequency produced will block the gravity-inducing radiations
from working their way down any further.

This accounts for the type of gravity shielding described in the book
Etidorhpa.

This type of gravity production can also explain how it is that Earth-like
gravity can exist on planets such as Mars and the Moon, as this model of
gravity production does not depend on the mass of the planet in order to
produce a certain force of gravity; at least, it doesn't depend on the
differences in mass of the various celestial orbs beyond a certain size.

Here are Cater's comments from chapter 13:
The fundamentals of physics have now been fairly well outlined; however,
this presentation is still far from complete. There are still many details
which need to be filled in. This is especially true concerning the
properties of light, despite the fact that the real rneanin of Planck's
constant has already been presented and its relationship to light has become
apparent. How does the law of redistribution of energy work? What are the
real principles behind color perception? Why is the velocity of light
independent of its frequency? Why is this velocity equal to the ratio
between an electromagnetic and electrostatic unit of charge? The answers to
these questions have never been given before. Great fluctuations occur in
the velocity of electrons in their orbits when materials are subjected to
high temperatures. This, in turn, creates interactions and interference
effects between electrons moving in opposite directions inside atoms and
between electrons in adjacent atoms. These interactions generate changes in
the electrostatic field effects of the electrons, which will cause regular
and distinct changes in their orbits. This is because the charge on the
electron varies with its velocity. Abrupt changes in a particle disrupts the
ethers which, in turn, results in the formation of photons. In one respect,
the theorists did make a lucky assumption, but the " quantum jumps " of the
electrons were the effects, along with the light produced, and not the cause
of the spectral lines.

The larger the atoms, the more complex the interactions, and consequently,
the more intricate the spectral pattern. The photons comprising the
electrons determine the range of the ethers that can be disrupted. These
ethers are intimately connected with the electrostatic field intensity of
the electrons. Thus; it follows from this new definition of Plank's
constant, just why this definition must be taken into consideration in all
of the calculations concerning the frequency of light produced in
interactions. This even holds for the discusive mathematical jugglings by
mathematical physicists, and why they were able to account for some of the
spectral lines from a quantitative aspect.

The definition can be clarified still more by keeping in mind the following:
the electrostatic field effects around an electron are dependent upon the
range and level of the ethers deflecting off the sides of the particles.
This range is not necessarily the same as the range of ethers affected by
sudden changes in the velocity of the electrons, but there is a direct
correlation between the two. When electrons interact some of the ethers
deflected from the electrons will, in turn, interact directly or indirectly
with other ethers that cannot contribute to the electrostatic field effects
of the electron. In this marner, a tremendous range of ethers below that
from which the electrons originated can be indirectly disturbcd by the
electrons, and Planck's constant plays a role throughout the procedure,
since all ether particles have the same kinetic energy. Electrons cannot
disturb ethers higher than those with which they are associated to the
extent of producing harder photons and electrons because of the ultrahigh
frequencies required. This is in accordance wiih the fact that energy cannot
flow uphill.

THE LAW OF REDISTRIBUTION OF ENERGY
A more penetrating look at the law of redistribution of energy discussed
earlier is now in order. Briefly, it states that when light interacts with
matter, new light results with a lower average frequency than the original
light. One of the simplest demonstrations of this law is done with the use
of light filters. For example a light beam in the blue or violet end of the
visible spectrum, after passing through a series of filters, regardless of
the types, will always emerge from the last one as red light, providing a
sufficient number of [ filters ] are used. These filters could be all blue,
violet or any other combination.
It was shown in the previous section that when an electron or proton is
activated, sucessively lower ethers are indirectly disturbed, resulting in
the production of lower frequency photons. This is in accordance with the
universal law which states that energy can only flow from a high potential
to a lower one. The law of redistribution of energy is based on this
principle. When light interacts with matter, many of the photons scatter
and are displaced, while others recombine during reflections to form soft
particles [ low frequency light ]. These soft particles further interact
with matter resulting in some of the original light being repropagated.
Note: the following point is extremely important ] It is the production of
photons by the indirect disturbance of ethers that produces the lower
frequency of light resulting from the interactions of light with matter.
The lower frequency light produced, in turn, interacts with matter to
produce, indirectly, still lower frequency light. However, the intensity of
such light rapidly decreases as the lower frequency levels are approached.
It is the interactions of soft particles and their disintegrations which are
the greatest factors in the direct and indirect disturbance of ethers to
produce new photons. The soft particles release hard electrons during
disintegration,and their interactions with matter and with each other
disturb the ethers. In some instances the release of hard electrons can be
violent enough to produce higher frequencies than those of the original
light, as indicated by the Raman effect.

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To: List Members

I would like to send around this address againof a site which has articles
on underground existences, such as caves and such. There are a lot of
newbies, and this type of info will give you something to think about.

Keep in mind that the Hollow Earth Theory rests on more than just legends
and personal testimony but, like I said, this gives us all some additional
food for thought.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shadowlands/6583/under.html

Dharma/Dean

This Russina guy seems to be onto some kind of soft particle physics. The
part about a light bulb generating electricity out of thin air presupposed
knowledge about hard particles residing within, captured and camouflaged by
soft particles outside of the visible band.

http://www.rense.com/general7/wonder.htm

Dharma/Dean